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Should a Presidential Candidate keep their faith and talk of religion out of politics?

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  • Peace 2008/03/07 20:36:13
    Yes
    Peace
    +6
    I don't really care what religion an individual is, I am looking for someone who will be able to be honest and vote what is best for the people they are representing.

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  • pocolala 2009/05/15 20:48:31
    Yes
    pocolala
    It should not be a deciding factor in a presidential candidate as in the United States religion is to be spartate from state. I'm not certain if the actual writing is Freedom of religion or Freedom From Religion.
  • grasshopper 2009/05/12 07:32:01
    Yes
    grasshopper
    yes if he believes in talking snakes i hope he keeps it to himself
  • Dad 2009/05/12 03:38:01
    Yes
    Dad
    In the old days, the leader of a country was not only the leader he also was their religious leader. King David inspired many of his countryman because he openly praised and spoke of his God.
    I think it is a very good idea.
  • grassho... Dad 2009/05/12 07:30:59
    grasshopper
    the bible says the same god killed 70,000 innocent people to punish david for taking a census in 1 chronicles 21: 1-14 . if thats religion i'll take a leader that has none.
  • Dad grassho... 2009/05/12 14:36:26
    Dad
    If you had understood the reason why you would not have posted this. It tells you the reason at the start of this.
    1: Now Satan stood up against Israel and moved David to number Israel.
    If God had wanted David to do this he would have commanded him to do so, but he heard the voice of someone else.
    Second part of your post: Religion is the search for God. If you have God in your life you need not search but only believe the faith you have.
    Be blessed today.
  • grassho... Dad 2009/05/12 18:27:46
    grasshopper
    o.k. so as long as someone is tricked into disobeying you then it's completely moral to kill 70,000 innocent people to punish them. second if i had faith that a magic teapot created the universe would that be ridiculous? i have faith in it and you can't prove me wrong. my point is having faith with no good reason is ridiculous. i won't bless you but i will wish you peace and prosperity.
  • Dad grassho... 2009/05/12 18:32:45
    Dad
    Oh! I get it now. OK, right, sure, indeed, yes, Ummmm, got you
  • personman 2008/12/09 17:42:18
    No
    personman
    Some are able to incorporate their supernatural opinions into their official-public-tax-supported life without seeming to denigrate others. It is a slender tightrope to walk.
  • moorrbrt1 "In God we Trust" 2008/09/25 19:36:34
    Undecided
    moorrbrt1 "In God we Trust"
    My religious upbringing colors my opinions and how strongly I feel towards certain issues. It's impossible to separate me from my beliefs.
  • Sarah 2 2008/09/23 20:05:47
    Yes
    Sarah 2
    Yes!! Amen!
  • Mollybdamned American Atheist 2008/07/29 17:53:59
    Yes
    Mollybdamned American Atheist
    +2
    Absolutely, Definitely if they are NOT a Christian. They would be ripped to shreds.
  • NickName his Dudeness 2008/05/11 00:26:19
    Yes
    NickName his Dudeness
    +2
    Yes, there shall be no religious test for the presidency. It's in the Constitution for a reason. Seems to me like anybody who has a problem with that has a problem with American values.
  • NamelessGenXer 2008/05/07 13:45:43
    Yes
    NamelessGenXer
    +2
    Are you enraged by Bush-McCain's attempts to twist our Great Democracy into a Corrupt Theocracy?

    YES WE CAN do something about it !

    Sign the Petition to tell Senator Patrick Leahy, Chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, that he should shut down all judicial confirmations process until a new president is sworn in next January:

    http://act.credoaction.com/ca...

    "Of all the tyrannies that affect mankind, tyranny in religion is the worst.”
    ~ Thomas Paine
  • slyt2 2008/04/22 11:15:19
    Undecided
    slyt2
    +1
    I'm not sure about that one, I think we should know but it shouldn't be a big focus
  • soper 2008/04/21 01:30:19
    No
    soper
    +1
    No.... that is part of who they are...
  • NickNam... soper 2008/05/11 00:28:08
    NickName his Dudeness
    +2
    So are their sexual proclivities. Frankly I don't really want to hear about that either.
  • soper NickNam... 2008/05/11 06:23:04
    soper
    +1
    neither do I,,,,,
  • granny1944 2008/04/05 11:34:47
    Undecided
    granny1944
    +2
    I lost it somewhere, I thought religion and the state did not mix.
  • Blasphameer 2008/03/28 19:56:03
    No
    Blasphameer
    +2
    It's OK to share how your moral values make you a better person, but a Presidential Candidate shoudl make it 100% clear that they are not a spokesperson for their faith and their faith should not meddle into their duties and responsibiltiies.
  • NickNam... Blaspha... 2008/05/11 00:28:44
    NickName his Dudeness
    +1
    Amen to that.
  • squishy 2008/03/28 01:06:28
  • NickNam... squishy 2008/05/11 00:31:14
    NickName his Dudeness
    Why don't we just replace the Constitution with the Bible? Because as we have seen with Iran, Afghanistan, and mideval Europe, Theocracies are such wonderful places to live.
  • msliz0 2008/03/16 23:00:24
    Yes
    msliz0
    +3
    I am quite convinced that our country is so divided because of that...
  • Carol Nobama 2008/03/10 18:17:44
    Yes
    Carol Nobama
    +3
    Keep the church and state separate. Look at the countries that do not follow this and see how screwed up they are.
  • msliz0 Carol N... 2008/03/16 23:01:21
    msliz0
    +2
    look how screwed up we are because of it. it's pathetic.
  • NickNam... msliz0 2008/05/11 00:32:39
    NickName his Dudeness
    +1
    lol, if it weren't so tragic I'd laugh harder. In all fairness though, we aren't beheading people in stadiums yet.
  • msliz0 NickNam... 2008/05/11 00:34:48
    msliz0
    +3
    Not yet Nick:)... that we know of...
  • Maria 2008/03/08 06:46:18 (edited)
    Yes
    Maria
    darn it should be vote No not yes if the presidential is without religion then the America will be in worst. rather to have presidential who knew very well around religion intend to be prepare, when after world III, president will be ready to knowledge of prayer to tell people to pray at the same time when things got into bad shape after world III.
  • NickNam... Maria 2008/05/11 00:33:59
    NickName his Dudeness
    +1
    huh...not really sure how to respond to this one...
  • Laura 2008/03/07 23:07:41 (edited)
    No
    Laura
    +1
    I know most people will say yes to this question as they really do not have an understanding of US History. Although it may be fashionable these days to be downright hostile to Christianity in politics, it is not the way it has always been.

    If candidates were not allowed to express their faith in politics, we would not have the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, or the Declaration of Independence.

    If we were to eliminate Presidents who spoke of their faith to the masses, we would need to eliminate:
    Washington
    John Adams
    Thomas Jefferson
    James Madison
    James Monroe
    John Quincy Adams
    Andrew Jackson
    Martin Van Buren
    William Henry Harrison
    James Knox Polk
    Zachary Taylor
    Franklin Pierce
    James Buchanan
    Abraham Lincoln
    Andrew Johnson
    Ulysses Simpson Grant
    Rutherford Birchard Hayes
    James Abram Garfield
    Stephen Grover Cleveland
    Benjamin Harrison
    William McKinley
    Theodore Roosevelt
    William Howard Taft
    Thomas Woodrow Wilson
    Warren Gamaliel Harding
    John Calvin Coolidge
    Herbert Clark Hoover
    Franklin Delano Roosevelt
    Harry S. Truman
    Dwight David Eisenhower
    John Fitzgerald Kennedy
    Lyndon Baines Johnson
    Gerald Rudolph Ford
    James Earl Carter
    Ronald Wilson Reagan
    George Herbert Walker Bush
    William Jefferson Clinton
    George Walker Bush
  • msliz0 Laura 2008/03/16 23:05:01
    msliz0
    +4
    give me a break. there is nothing wrong with the president or anyone else having faith or speaking of their faith. that's a good thing. the problem is that idiots like bush want it to control our country. that's crazy.
  • soper Laura 2008/04/21 01:32:07
    soper
    +1
    Wonderful answer....
    I think most people do , indeed, not understand the full depth of that question....
  • NickNam... Laura 2008/05/11 00:38:21
    NickName his Dudeness
    +3
    I have no problem with a president who is honest about his or her own faith. But government money should not be funnelled to religious institutions. This is what GW has done, and the courts have used stupid procedural parlor tricks to prevent anybody from challenging these constitutional violations. It's shameful and anti-American.
  • True~Male NickNam... 2008/05/11 06:27:47
    True~Male
    +2
    I agree NickName --you hit the nail on the head -- Great response
  • personman Laura 2008/12/09 19:12:09
    personman
    absolutely. And some of these guys wouldn't be electable today, due to their non-christian and anti-christian views.
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    John Adams (the second President of the United States)
    Adams signed the Treaty of Tripoli (June 7, 1797). Article 11 states:
    "The government of the United States is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion."

    "Twenty times in the course of my late reading, have I been upon the point of breaking out, 'this would be the best of all possible worlds, if there were no religion in it.'"

    "I almost shudder at the thought of alluding to the most fatal example of the abuses of grief which the history of mankind has preserved -- the Cross. Consider what calamities that engine of grief has produced!"

    "Where do we find a precept in the Bible for Creeds, Confessions, Doctrines and Oaths, and whole carloads of trumpery that we find religion encumbered with in these days?"

    "The Doctrine of the divinity of Jesus is made a convenient cover for absurdity."

    "...Thirteen governments [of the original states] thus founded on the natural authority of the people alone, without a pretence of miracle or mystery, and which are destined to spread over the northern part of that whole quarter of the globe, are a great point gained in favor of the rights of mankind."
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    absolutely. And some of these guys wouldn't be electable today, due to their non-christian and anti-christian views.
    -----------------------------...
    John Adams (the second President of the United States)
    Adams signed the Treaty of Tripoli (June 7, 1797). Article 11 states:
    "The government of the United States is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion."

    "Twenty times in the course of my late reading, have I been upon the point of breaking out, 'this would be the best of all possible worlds, if there were no religion in it.'"

    "I almost shudder at the thought of alluding to the most fatal example of the abuses of grief which the history of mankind has preserved -- the Cross. Consider what calamities that engine of grief has produced!"

    "Where do we find a precept in the Bible for Creeds, Confessions, Doctrines and Oaths, and whole carloads of trumpery that we find religion encumbered with in these days?"

    "The Doctrine of the divinity of Jesus is made a convenient cover for absurdity."

    "...Thirteen governments [of the original states] thus founded on the natural authority of the people alone, without a pretence of miracle or mystery, and which are destined to spread over the northern part of that whole quarter of the globe, are a great point gained in favor of the rights of mankind."
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    Thomas Jefferson (the third President of the United States)

    "...an amendment was proposed by inserting the words, 'Jesus Christ...the holy author of our religion,' which was rejected 'By a great majority in proof that they meant to comprehend, within the mantle of its protection, the Jew and the Gentile, the Christian and the Mohammedan, the Hindoo and the Infidel of every denomination.'"

    "Our civil rights have no dependence on our religious opinions, more than on our opinions in physics and geometry....The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. But it does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods, or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg."

    "The day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the Supreme Being as his father, in the womb of a virgin, will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter."

    "Reason and persuasion are the only practicable instruments. To make way for these free inquiry must be indulged; how can we wish others to indulge it while we refuse ourselves? But every state, says an inquisitor, has established some religion. No two, say I, have established the same. Is this a proof of the infallibility of establishments?"

    "They [the clergy] believe that any portion of power confided to me, will be exerted in opposition of their schemes. And they believe rightly: for I have sworn upon the alter of god eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man."

    "I have examined all the known superstitions of the world, and I do not find in our particular superstition of Christianity one redeeming feature. They are all alike founded on fables and mythology. Millions of innocent men, women and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined and imprisoned. What has been the effect of this coercion? To make one half of the world fools and the other half hypocrites; to support roguery and error all over the earth."

    "In every country and in every age the priest has been hostile to liberty; he is always in alliance with the despot, abetting his abuses in return for protection to his own."

    "Fix reason firmly in her seat, and call to her tribunal every fact, every opinion. Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, than that of blindfolded fear....Do not be frightened from this inquiry by any fear of its consequences. If it end in a belief that there is no God, you will find incitements to virtue on the comfort and pleasantness you feel in its exercise and in the love of others which it will procure for you."

    "Christianity...[has become] the most perverted system that ever shone on man....Rogueries, absurdities and untruths were perpetrated upon the teachings of Jesus by a large band of dupes and importers led by Paul, the first great corrupter of the teaching of Jesus."

    "...that our civil rights have no dependence on religious opinions, any more than our opinions in physics and geometry."
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    James Madison (the fourth President of the United States)

    "Religious bondage shackles and debilitates the mind and unfits it for every noble enterprise....During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on trial. What have been its fruits? More or less, in all places, pride and indolence in the clergy; ignorance and servility in laity; in both, superstition, bigotry, and persecution."

    "Religion and government will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together."
    -----------------------------...
    Benjamin Franklin

    "My parents had given me betimes religious impressions, and I received from my infancy a pious education in the principles of Calvinism. But scarcely was I arrived at fifteen years of age, when, after having doubted in turn of different tenets, according as I found them combated in the different books that I read, I began to doubt of Revelation itself."

    "...Some books against Deism fell into my hands....It happened that they wrought an effect on me quite contrary to what was intended by them; for the arguments of the Deists, which were quote to be refuted, appeared to me much stronger than the refutations, in short, I soon became a thorough Deist."
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  • Peace 2008/03/07 20:36:13
    Yes
    Peace
    +6
    I don't really care what religion an individual is, I am looking for someone who will be able to be honest and vote what is best for the people they are representing.
  • True~Male Peace 2008/03/07 22:36:16
    True~Male
    +3
    good answer-- I agree
  • Roxie 2008/03/06 05:34:20
    Yes
    Roxie
    +4
    That's what Church and Sunday school is for!
  • angie ~ MCCAIN / PALIN 08 2008/03/03 03:38:43
  • Peace angie ... 2008/03/08 00:31:47
    Peace
    +2
    Please, give it a rest!

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