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Santa Monica Proposes to Ban Smoking in Apartment Rentals: Do You Agree With the City's Proposal?

mrosen814 2012/07/25 22:00:00
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The city of Santa Monica recently proposed to ban smoking for new apartment and condo renters. Under the proposed ordinance, both new and existing multi-unit buildings would be subject to the ban.

Smokers already renting could continue to light up in their apartments, but the units would be covered by the ban as soon as they became vacant. According to the Los Angeles Times article, "Tenants who break the rules could be fined up to $500 if a landlord or a neighbor takes them to small claims court."

LATIMES.COM reports:
The Santa Monica City Council is scheduled to vote on a plan to bar new renters from smoking inside their apartments and condos. The council should demonstrate restraint and vote no.
plan bar renters smoking apartments condos council demonstrate restraint vote

Read More: http://www.latimes.com/health/la-ed-smoking-renter...

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  • dalevic 2012/07/27 14:53:04
    No
    dalevic
    +8
    I am a non smoker and even I am sick of the government sticking their noses where they don't belong. They had no right banning smoking in private businesses and they have no right banning smoking in private property. If We the people do not stand up to these politicians at some point, and that would be NOW they will just keep STOMPING all over our rights. Today it may be smokers tomorrow it will be you "yes people"!!!

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  • Kris Muskoka 2012/07/29 06:36:48
    Kris
    +3
    Give the oil companies a hard time then. The air you breathe ANYWHERE is crap because of them. Leave the smokers alone, already!! OMG.
  • Muskoka Kris 2012/08/01 02:50:41 (edited)
    Muskoka
    You many be breathing dirty air, but the air where I live is very clean! I also want the air in my house to be clean as well and so do millions of other people.

    Smokers need to learn respect for non-smokers and let others live heathly live.


    How does tobacco smoke get into the home?
    People living in flats or terraced houses are more likely to experience smoke drift than those
    in detached or semi-detached homes due to the way air is circulated within and between the
    buildings. Smoke may enter the home from a number of sources such as:
    • open windows or doors
    • through electrical ducting
    • via cracks and gaps around window frames, floorboards, skirting boards, ceilings
    • through shared ventilation systems
    http://ash.org.uk/files/docum...

    Exposure to Environmental Tobacco Smoke (ETS) in multi-unit housing (apartments, condominiums, etc.) is a growing concern. The California public is now protected from exposure to ETS in all indoor public workplaces (with a few exceptions), therefore being exposed in your own home has become a greater nuisance for the non-smoking public (85% of Californians). While the indoor common areas of multi-family housing complexes (including hallways, stairwells, laundry and recreation rooms) are considered workplaces under the State's workplace smoking ban, secondh...
    You many be breathing dirty air, but the air where I live is very clean! I also want the air in my house to be clean as well and so do millions of other people.

    Smokers need to learn respect for non-smokers and let others live heathly live.


    How does tobacco smoke get into the home?
    People living in flats or terraced houses are more likely to experience smoke drift than those
    in detached or semi-detached homes due to the way air is circulated within and between the
    buildings. Smoke may enter the home from a number of sources such as:
    • open windows or doors
    • through electrical ducting
    • via cracks and gaps around window frames, floorboards, skirting boards, ceilings
    • through shared ventilation systems
    http://ash.org.uk/files/docum...

    Exposure to Environmental Tobacco Smoke (ETS) in multi-unit housing (apartments, condominiums, etc.) is a growing concern. The California public is now protected from exposure to ETS in all indoor public workplaces (with a few exceptions), therefore being exposed in your own home has become a greater nuisance for the non-smoking public (85% of Californians). While the indoor common areas of multi-family housing complexes (including hallways, stairwells, laundry and recreation rooms) are considered workplaces under the State's workplace smoking ban, secondhand smoke(SHS) in adjoining units of an apartment complex or condominium can seep in and expose non-smokers who may then suffer adverse health effects. The California Department of Health Services says that even if apartment residents do not smoke in their home they are still at risk from SHS seepage through shared walls, ventilation systems, doors and windows. According to John Howard MD, Chief of the California Dvision of Occupational Safety and Health (CAL OSHA), SHS can "move through light fixtures, ceiling crawl spaces, and into and out of doorways." This puts tenants at risk for "irritant, allergic, acute and chronic cardiopulmonary and carcinogenic adverse health effects." To learn more about the risks of drifting SHS in multi-unit housing and what you can do to avoid it, follow this link.
    http://www.arb.ca.gov/toxics/...
    (more)
  • james.bowman.146 2012/07/28 08:17:20
    No
    james.bowman.146
    +5
    Let the apartment complexes set the rules.
  • Seeker of Truth - War Wizard 2012/07/28 05:26:06
    No
    Seeker of Truth - War Wizard
    +7
    If the landlord wants to have smoke-free properties or units and declares that in the lease contract, then that's fine. If a renter agrees to keep the apartment smoke free, then they must abide by that agreement or break the lease. But the state cannot tell you that you are not allowed to do a legal thing within the confines of your own home (rented or owned).
  • TexasMentor54 2012/07/28 04:57:59
    No
    TexasMentor54
    +5
    Yet again. another totally unacceptable intrusion on personal liberty and personal privacy. When you are willing to trade liberties and freedom for satety and security, it is ALL OVER, people. This is not what freedom is about.
  • Aqua Surf 2012/07/28 04:28:08
    No
    Aqua Surf
    +2
    You pay the rent, you should be able to do as you please. Isn't that what people pay deposits for?
  • Bee Aqua Surf 2012/07/29 16:02:05
    Bee
    That is the most ignorant comment I've seen yet - its rent, honey. You own nothing - your landlord owns it. Therefore your rules in the apartment are determined (rightfully) by him/her.
  • Aqua Surf Bee 2012/08/02 05:44:32
    Aqua Surf
    Then both of you can sit on it. Honey!
  • RS 2012/07/28 03:26:24
    No
    RS
    +2
    Enough is enough.
  • Peewee 2012/07/28 02:34:00
    No
    Peewee
    +1
    Just make smoking and non smoking parts. Geesh.
  • Debi.smith 2012/07/28 02:13:21
    No
    Debi.smith
    +1
    What a person chooses to do in the privacy of his own home ain't the governments business. I've been quit just over 3 years and that stinks something awful - even when. You think you don't!!!
  • Koma 2012/07/28 01:57:52
    No
    Koma
    +4
    The city doesn't own the apartments and has no say in the matter.
    Only the owners of the apartments can make such rules.
  • Beverly Cowart 2012/07/28 01:13:51
    No
    Beverly Cowart
    +2
    government communist control
  • britbiker 2012/07/28 00:57:02
    No
    britbiker
    +1
    Why don't we just ban smoking and get the problem over with
  • Windy britbiker 2012/07/28 09:21:53
    Windy
    +1
    Prohibition doesn't work, no matter what it is one is trying to prohibit.
  • britbiker Windy 2012/07/28 09:45:33
    britbiker
    +2
    I agree, I was just being sarcastic
  • cddjmikey 2012/07/28 00:28:28
    No
    cddjmikey
    +2
    I especially love the ads they run where the smoke from a downstairs apartment goes outside, up to the second floor, in a window, down the hall and in to the babies room ! I would LOVE to meet the person that came up with that ! They have a very active imagination !!
  • Muskoka cddjmikey 2012/07/29 01:01:07
    Muskoka
    +1
    Apparently you nave never lived in any of these complexes. I have and smoke drifts with the air and it definitely does not stay in the unit where people are smoking.

    There is nothing imaginary about it. We have the exact same problem in our condo complex and over 56 if the 100 units have made complaints of drifting smoke. We also do not have hallways either. We all have outside entrances.
  • APLWONK 2012/07/28 00:17:22
    No
    APLWONK
    +4
    No! What people do in their own apartments is no one else's business, especially the governments'.
  • clasact 2012/07/27 22:30:04
    No
    clasact
    +2
    just more BS from Cali
  • shaltov72 2012/07/27 20:42:05
    No
    shaltov72
    People have complained about the government being in everyones business, the squleers
    got their way about getting smoking out of restraunts, which is OK by me, because I do not smoke but to got to peoples apartments is more government intursion!
  • Monkey D. Luffy 2012/07/27 19:45:47
    No
    Monkey D. Luffy
    +3
    They can do what they want in their room, I think..
  • Muskoka Monkey ... 2012/07/29 01:01:27
    Muskoka
    What about the rights of others on their own property who do not want smoke in it?????

    Smoke drifts and does not stay in one place it moves with the air in apartment building and invades the space of others.

    Every one has the right of clean air in their own home.
  • Monkey ... Muskoka 2012/07/29 08:20:06
    Monkey D. Luffy
    Maybe.
  • Muskoka Monkey ... 2012/08/01 02:52:05
    Muskoka
    There is no maybe about it.

    Smokers need to learn respect for non-smokers and let others live heathly live.


    How does tobacco smoke get into the home?
    People living in flats or terraced houses are more likely to experience smoke drift than those
    in detached or semi-detached homes due to the way air is circulated within and between the
    buildings. Smoke may enter the home from a number of sources such as:
    • open windows or doors
    • through electrical ducting
    • via cracks and gaps around window frames, floorboards, skirting boards, ceilings
    • through shared ventilation systems
    http://ash.org.uk/files/docum...

    Exposure to Environmental Tobacco Smoke (ETS) in multi-unit housing (apartments, condominiums, etc.) is a growing concern. The California public is now protected from exposure to ETS in all indoor public workplaces (with a few exceptions), therefore being exposed in your own home has become a greater nuisance for the non-smoking public (85% of Californians). While the indoor common areas of multi-family housing complexes (including hallways, stairwells, laundry and recreation rooms) are considered workplaces under the State's workplace smoking ban, secondhand smoke(SHS) in adjoining units of an apartment complex or condominium can seep in and expose non-smokers who may then suffer advers...
    There is no maybe about it.

    Smokers need to learn respect for non-smokers and let others live heathly live.


    How does tobacco smoke get into the home?
    People living in flats or terraced houses are more likely to experience smoke drift than those
    in detached or semi-detached homes due to the way air is circulated within and between the
    buildings. Smoke may enter the home from a number of sources such as:
    • open windows or doors
    • through electrical ducting
    • via cracks and gaps around window frames, floorboards, skirting boards, ceilings
    • through shared ventilation systems
    http://ash.org.uk/files/docum...

    Exposure to Environmental Tobacco Smoke (ETS) in multi-unit housing (apartments, condominiums, etc.) is a growing concern. The California public is now protected from exposure to ETS in all indoor public workplaces (with a few exceptions), therefore being exposed in your own home has become a greater nuisance for the non-smoking public (85% of Californians). While the indoor common areas of multi-family housing complexes (including hallways, stairwells, laundry and recreation rooms) are considered workplaces under the State's workplace smoking ban, secondhand smoke(SHS) in adjoining units of an apartment complex or condominium can seep in and expose non-smokers who may then suffer adverse health effects. The California Department of Health Services says that even if apartment residents do not smoke in their home they are still at risk from SHS seepage through shared walls, ventilation systems, doors and windows. According to John Howard MD, Chief of the California Dvision of Occupational Safety and Health (CAL OSHA), SHS can "move through light fixtures, ceiling crawl spaces, and into and out of doorways." This puts tenants at risk for "irritant, allergic, acute and chronic cardiopulmonary and carcinogenic adverse health effects." To learn more about the risks of drifting SHS in multi-unit housing and what you can do to avoid it, follow this link.
    http://www.arb.ca.gov/toxics/...
    (more)
  • Monkey ... Muskoka 2012/08/01 11:33:41
    Monkey D. Luffy
    Maybe.
  • Jean Muskoka 2012/08/06 14:44:01
    Jean
    lol lol lol lol you will believe anything some moron puts out there!!!!!
  • WOODMAN34 2012/07/27 19:44:10
    No
    WOODMAN34
    +1
    I don't smoke but I do have way too much government, Get out of my life and get down to the things that are more important to this country. Like too many Mexicans here and too much government debt. And come to think of it way too much government.
  • PumpkinMuncher 2012/07/27 19:15:07
    No
    PumpkinMuncher
    +2
    If they are paying for it they should be able to do what they want in it. I hate this attack of smoking and tobacco.
  • WOODMAN34 Pumpkin... 2012/07/27 19:56:24 (edited)
    WOODMAN34
    +2
    What I want to know is Will the Calafaornica government stop the smoking of grass in apartments too.
  • cddjmikey WOODMAN34 2012/07/28 00:30:33
    cddjmikey
    +2
    Of course not ! It's good for you !!
  • Muskoka Pumpkin... 2012/07/29 01:02:32
    Muskoka
    +1
    It is not an attack on smoking or tobacco. It is a fight for clean air in the home of those who have a right to it.
  • Professor Wizard 2012/07/27 18:58:20
    Yes
    Professor Wizard
    +1
    You should not be allowed to smoke anywhere handguns are not allowed.

    If I can't kill the badguy - - I don't want him killing himself and those around him.
  • Prime Time Lime 2012/07/27 18:13:27 (edited)
    Yes
    Prime Time Lime
    +1
    The people elect the city council,which listen to the public opinions on this matter,and maybe it is the public of this city that want this ban.This is a critical part of the story that was left out.
  • Koma Prime T... 2012/07/28 02:04:53
    Koma
    +1
    Irregardless of how many rights of others it violates?

    The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects...

    Oh, but that doesn't pertain to you Canadians.
  • Prime T... Koma 2012/07/28 02:08:45
    Prime Time Lime
    +1
    As I said in my post,maybe the majority of the Santa Monica public wants it.The whole story is not told and much is left out.I was not saying I agreed with the decision,just noted that the story is very incomplete.
  • Debi.smith Prime T... 2012/07/28 02:33:04
    Debi.smith
    +1
    Doesn't matter what the majority of Santa Monicans want. We are a representative republic at every level. We elect them, they vote their conscience. However when they start plowing through our Constitutionally guaranteed rights they are wrong
  • Prime T... Debi.smith 2012/07/28 03:30:08
    Prime Time Lime
    Your right,they do not take a consensus of how people feel.Once they are elected they make the decision on thier own.I do not think smoking or non smoking is a constitutional right.Maybe I missed it in the preamble of the constitution.
  • Windy Prime T... 2012/07/28 09:30:10 (edited)
    Windy
    +1
    What the Constitution guarantees is the individual right of every person to live the way they want, to ingest whatever they want, and to use their own property in whatever way they want without interference, regulation, or restriction by government.
  • Prime T... Windy 2012/07/28 13:42:34
    Prime Time Lime
    I thought it was life ,liberty and the pursuit of happiness that was part of the constitution..

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