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Santa Monica Proposes to Ban Smoking in Apartment Rentals: Do You Agree With the City's Proposal?

mrosen814 2012/07/25 22:00:00
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The city of Santa Monica recently proposed to ban smoking for new apartment and condo renters. Under the proposed ordinance, both new and existing multi-unit buildings would be subject to the ban.

Smokers already renting could continue to light up in their apartments, but the units would be covered by the ban as soon as they became vacant. According to the Los Angeles Times article, "Tenants who break the rules could be fined up to $500 if a landlord or a neighbor takes them to small claims court."

LATIMES.COM reports:
The Santa Monica City Council is scheduled to vote on a plan to bar new renters from smoking inside their apartments and condos. The council should demonstrate restraint and vote no.
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Read More: http://www.latimes.com/health/la-ed-smoking-renter...

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  • dalevic 2012/07/27 14:53:04
    No
    dalevic
    +8
    I am a non smoker and even I am sick of the government sticking their noses where they don't belong. They had no right banning smoking in private businesses and they have no right banning smoking in private property. If We the people do not stand up to these politicians at some point, and that would be NOW they will just keep STOMPING all over our rights. Today it may be smokers tomorrow it will be you "yes people"!!!

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  • claymation 2012/11/10 04:11:15
  • P. Sturm 2012/09/14 23:42:01
    No
    P. Sturm
    NO!! It's on private property, so it's none of their damn business!
  • claymation P. Sturm 2012/11/10 04:25:12
    claymation
    On private property is not a legitimate excuse to allow it.
    If an adult was abusing their children in the privacy of their own homes, does that mean government shouldn't step in and get involved in some way?
  • P. Sturm claymation 2012/11/10 11:59:37
    P. Sturm
    But the adult is abusing his own body. Where do draw the line? Should the city come in to keep you from watching what they consider abusive programs on your TV?
  • claymation P. Sturm 2012/11/11 11:48:34
    claymation
    If smoke stayed within a one foot radius of the smokers head...even a five foot radius, I'd agree, but smoke travels. And if it's inside an apartment and yours is next to theirs, well you might as well start coughing up some loot to spend on a pack a day yourself b/c there's no winning in that situation.
  • pete 2012/08/12 22:00:01
    Yes
    pete
    +1
    Just enter an apartment building with smokers living there..........UGH!!!! Stale nicotine stench is unavoidable.

    Disgusting
  • claymation pete 2012/11/10 04:25:47
    claymation
    Truly disgusting.
  • Letty Marie 2012/08/06 13:30:11
    Yes
    Letty Marie
    +1
    i live in an appartment and the smell creeps in, I hate it!
  • Bassett, Wayne 2012/08/05 03:07:25
    No
    Bassett, Wayne
    control control!
  • claymation Bassett... 2012/11/10 04:22:42
    claymation
    Control the animals and those less capable of making better choices.
  • Linda 2012/08/04 16:16:01
    Yes
    Linda
    The smoke seeps through the wall in my kitchen. They should have smoking and non smoking sections in apartment complexes! In my opinion cigarettes should be baned, they aren't good for anyones health. And with what they cost I am tired of people saying they don't have money, look how much money they would have if they didn't buy cigarettes!
  • claymation Linda 2012/11/10 04:21:54
    claymation
    TRUTH.
    Cigarettes sell at a much higher rate in poorer neighborhoods. What does that tell you?
    If you were to look at the people on the welfare line, you'll notice: they may not have enough money to put food on the table for their numerous children, but you're damned skippy they have enough for booze and cigarettes. Add potato chips and frozen pizza, then you have most welfare recipients' dream lifestyle.
  • Watermusicranger 2012/08/01 16:56:23
    No
    Watermusicranger
    This is more control BS
  • claymation Watermu... 2012/11/10 04:26:39
    claymation
    DUI laws are about control too. You got a problem with that?
  • Watermu... claymation 2012/11/11 01:59:35
    Watermusicranger
    No, You and I are correct....To much control from people that want to control our lives.
  • catbyte21 2012/07/31 22:43:41
    Yes
    catbyte21
    +2
    They should ban smoking all over the world, the stuff KILLS people!
  • rcardon 2012/07/31 15:34:55
    Yes
    rcardon
    +1
    Not only is it a health hazard to new renters who occupy a unit that was previously smoked in, it's a fire hazard and liability for landlords. In my apartment complex, we are forbidden from smoking inside the apartments, as it is against the fire code, not that I smoke anyway.
  • JudyInc... rcardon 2012/08/01 13:56:13
    JudyIncarnato
    How's this for "politician-like"? I live in a smoke free senior citizens complex. NO SMOKING anywhere within the building, parking lot, or even your vehicle, but management just announced last week that they are going to BUILD A GAZEBO for the comfort of the smokers giving them a nice place to fulfill their HABIT!!!!!!!
  • rcardon JudyInc... 2012/08/01 15:45:55
    rcardon
    Yeah, I'd call that about a uni-lateral as you can get.
    Tenant: I thought smoking was against the rule.
    Landlord: It is, but, legally, we can't exclude people from renting just because they smoke, so we have to provide an area for them to do so.
    What a bunch of crap. If it says in the lease that smoking isn't allowed, then they prospective tenant should find somewhere that does allow it.
  • JudyInc... rcardon 2012/08/14 22:54:46
    JudyIncarnato
    +1
    This complex is ridiculous. It states that this is a smoke-free facility but now the management is going to build a GAZEBO for the smokers!!!!!! Meanwhile, they have turned down the water in the laundry room and also each tenants' toilets. There should be a place in hell for this s.o.b's.
  • JudyInc... rcardon 2012/08/14 23:00:29
    JudyIncarnato
    +3
    Yeah but they don't want to lose a prospective tenant just because they happen to smoke. This place I'm in isn't even 2 years old yet and the whole place had to be "bombed" for a flea infestation. That was 6 months ago. Now, I am having a flea problem in my apartment again!! They don't police dogs at all. They don't check if they are licensed, had all their shots, and many don't even put their dogs on a leash. Oh, and did I mention, you could put a saddle on some of these dogs. They are that big. I'm hoping to find a way to get out of here before I lose my mind.
  • T par tay 2012/07/31 13:44:08
    No
    T par tay
    +1
    Everyone who said yes voted for odimbo.
  • claymation T par tay 2012/11/10 04:28:18
    claymation
    Everyone who said no is a bimbo.
  • JessicaPriest 2012/07/31 00:55:39
    Yes
    JessicaPriest
    +2
    Of course i think it's a good idea; I don't smoke. And since I don't smoke I hate to smell smoke anywhere I am, especially in my own home. It travels through open doors and windows and is even carried through heater ducts and air conditioning vents. It's not fair to be subjected to someone else's disgusting behavior and have to pay for it.
  • Bassett... Jessica... 2012/08/05 03:06:55
    Bassett, Wayne
    that is the biggest bull sh*t I've ever heard!
  • claymation Bassett... 2012/11/10 04:29:08
  • ehrhornp 2012/07/31 00:54:19
    No
    ehrhornp
    A bit much.
  • Gabsters<3 2012/07/30 23:11:47
    No
    Gabsters<3
    +1
    I meant to hit yes...
  • Jackie 2012/07/30 17:59:39
    Yes
    Jackie
    +1
    If not a total ban, then it should be in the lease that you will be renting a smoking or non-smoking apartment in a like-kind building.
  • mustangluver 2012/07/30 15:55:36
    No
    mustangluver
    It's yet another commie thing. Will they ban alcohol as well?
  • JudyInc... mustang... 2012/08/14 23:05:36
    JudyIncarnato
    +2
    Look, If management doesn't allow smoking, then that is the RULE!!!! If someone wants to smoke, then find a place that allows smoking. That would also go for Alcohol if the management so chooses. And, again, if that were the case, then find a place that allows alcohol. It's very simple. It would be no different if a place said, we don't allow "killers" to rent here and they would be within their right to do so. They are not telling anyone they can't do any of those things. Just not ON THEIR PROPERTY!!!! The landlord has his rights just as the tenant has his choice. He can take it or leave it. Nobody is twisting the tenant's arm.
  • mustang... JudyInc... 2012/08/14 23:22:32
    mustangluver
    Welllllll of course one is not going to rent where they can't do what they want in the place they are paying for..but it would not be fair to put those rules in place after a person has lived there for a considerable amt of time. That's why owing is the only way to go and not in a gated community, that's like being in an apt. Condo's are apts as far as i am concerned..too many rules.
  • claymation mustang... 2012/11/10 04:30:56
    claymation
    It's more of a human conscience thing. And I'm glad more and more people are becoming less and less ignorant about tobacco use.
  • mustang... claymation 2012/11/10 16:01:39
    mustangluver
    +1
    I would like to see all liquor banned too..
  • Tre 2012/07/30 14:09:05
    Yes
    Tre
    +3
    If the smoke travels from room to room or thoughout the apt or condo then yes. Non Smokers shouldn't be forced to have to smell cigarette smoke.
  • bt sedlock 2012/07/30 05:14:42
    No
    bt sedlock
    I think it's in violation of people's civil liberties, eventhough I don't smoke.
  • Jackie bt sedlock 2012/07/30 18:26:48
    Jackie
    It's so strange that you think it's a violation of people's civil liberties to ban smoking, but not a violation to be forced to breathe the bad air caused by smokers. I can't figure that out. Smokers can choose not to smoke, but breathers can't choose not to breathe. How is that fair to people concerned about the air they breathe in their own apartment unit? It does carry to other units in most cases. My daughter has been a victim of that in a rental unit before and had to move into a private home to avoid it.
  • nmgene Jackie 2012/07/30 21:15:06
    nmgene
    Until they outlaw tobaco they should not be allowed to tell people how to live. If you dont like smoke move to a non smoking apartment. Dont deprive me of my habit. Yes smoking is the hardest addiction there is to quit. The urge never goes away. And we have hot water heat, none of the air goes in to another apartment. But guess what I dont smoke in the apartment!!! anyway. Drinking and drunk drivers kill more people anyway!!!!
  • Carrie nmgene 2012/08/01 12:27:31
    Carrie
    My husband had a hard time quitting also. He smoked since he was 12 years old and is 63. He quit a year and a half ago on electronic cigarettes. They really are worth a try if you ever think about quitting. I don't push anyone as no one will quit until they are ready. I agree with you about the addiction but your addiction is to nicotine. The other additives they put in cigarettes is the killer and what is really bad for your health. On electronic cigarettes you still get the smoking cessation and the nicotine but without all the other harmful chemicals they put in them. Once he started smoking those he never picked up a cigarette again.
  • bt sedlock Jackie 2012/08/04 20:55:29
    bt sedlock
    This is a democracy and people have the right to do what they want, even smokin.
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