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Public Opinion Says Teaching 11-Year-Olds About Condoms Is Not OK [INFOGRAPHIC]

SodaHead Infographics 2011/08/30 22:00:00
Last week we asked SodaHeads if 11-year-olds should be taught how to use a condom. It was a close call, but public opinion suggests that kids should be a wee bit older before getting that part of "the talk."

If you missed out on the original story, here's what sparked our interest:

But it looks like times have changed -- in New York City at least. The metropolitan city is reforming the way they look at sex education and will begin implementing a more controversial curriculum starting this year.

What does that mean, exactly? Well, for starters, public middle schools and high schools in the city will be given lessons on how to successfully use a condom and a talk on the appropriate age for sexual activity.


It was a close call this time around, and the break-down was a bit more complicated than previous questions we've looked at.

Religion and politics broke down as expected, but age threw a wrench into the system at every turn. There was even a strange disagreement between engaged and married people. Weird.

Let's dive.

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  • dePSyChO 2011/08/31 00:13:41
    dePSyChO
    +20
    I'll repeat my answer from the original question:

    1) Safe sex ed is better than abstinence only (or no sex ed) in every way

    2) No matter what you think or want, kids have sex earlier and earlier

    3) Knowing is half the battle, and it's always better to be safe

    4) Teaching them doesn't mean they're actually going to have sex, only that they'll know what to do when they do.

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  • iamthemob ~ the 444th Guru ~ 2011/08/31 18:55:48
    iamthemob ~ the 444th Guru ~
    +2
    Here's the problem that we all have to face:

    (1) The "where do babies come from" questions always, ALWAYS happen well before 11 years old. I'd say almost as soon as kids begin to talk, and certainly by kindergarten, kids are asking this question - they're curious little buggers.

    (2) Teaching kids about condom use is not disturbing if there has been a healthy discussion of sex prior to this age, as there should HAVE been. At 11, kids should know about the penis, vagina, and how they work to make a baby. Therefore, the idea that condoms are used by GROWN UPS to prevent conception as well as diseases should be as disturbing as "wash your hands to stop spreading germs."
  • gnice123 2011/08/31 18:46:31
    gnice123
    +3
    It makes me feel better to know that teenagers are smarter than their parents' generation.

    Greg P.
  • ScottCl... gnice123 2011/08/31 19:12:44 (edited)
    ScottClemons
    Wisdom only comes with age, smarts come from books, doesn't give them the life knowledge gained with age. Being smarter I don't think so. They don't even get as good an education as I did, can't tell you how many kids in a drive through can't even count back change without the computer helping them, that's smart oh yeah!!!!
  • gnice123 ScottCl... 2011/08/31 20:34:11
    gnice123
    +1
    well... you can find dumbasses of all ages, but a dumbass that would actively seek to keep others as ignorant as (s)he are among the worst.

    Greg P.
  • ScottCl... gnice123 2011/08/31 21:44:22
    ScottClemons
    And who are you implying seeks to keep others ignorant? Seeking to teach children in a manner that differs from many does not make them ignorant, just that we all do things different and will always. If I read you right then let me inform you, this for me is about how and when I teach my kids about sex, it is not up to you or school to do this for me or decide what is best over what I think, that doesn't make me ignorant and or my kids or me trying to keep them in the unknown, they will know when I decide, but they will be told as I see fit!!!
  • gnice123 ScottCl... 2011/09/01 18:47:03
    gnice123
    If you say so...

    Just curious.... what happens if your 13 or 14 year old comes home one day expecting a child or with an STD. Will you take full responsibility for that or find a way to blame the same society that tried to educate your child on prevention just a few years earlier?

    Greg P.
  • ScottCl... gnice123 2011/09/01 21:15:22 (edited)
    ScottClemons
    +1
    Fair question

    What I would do is still love my child as I did before, would I express I disappointment, you bet. I will take half the responsibility for not being a better parent in teaching my kids better, but my kids will have to take the responsibility for their own actions as I did not assist in what they chose to go out and do. My sister waited until marriage, I did not, did I wish I had listened to my parents, you bet I did. But I never would have blamed or expected my parents to be responsible for what I went out and did, what I did do is own up to my mistake and took care of my child, married her mother, (not because of the child but we did have a relationship before hand) had my little girl as flower girl at our wedding, and now we have two. Would I hope to teach my kids not wait, yes!! Will I condemn them for making mistakes as we all do, never!!! Oh and I was 22 when she was born, and 24 when I got married. I hope that relieves your curiosity.
  • The Pot... ScottCl... 2011/08/31 21:42:05
    The Potato Princess
    +1
    No, wisdom comes with experience. Teenagers have the experience of being a teenager here and today. Teenagers have a better perspective on the whole thing.

    And what does counting change have to do with condoms? Honestly? Two completely different things.
  • ScottCl... The Pot... 2011/09/01 21:21:25
    ScottClemons
    You said they were smarter, just saying not really. Counting change was an example.
    Teenagers have no life experience as adults do, so then how can one be smarter than ones parents without the wisdom from life? Being smart does not mean you are wise in your choices. Ones perspective is narrow when they have no real life experience. And yes wisdom.
  • The Pot... ScottCl... 2011/09/01 21:29:58
    The Potato Princess
    I didn't say anything. Being able to do math is a different kind of smartness than knowing what to do.
    Teenagers have life experience being a teenager here and now. Adults don't have that experience. They may have experience being teens here then, but things change. They're smarter than parents about themselves because they know themselves best of all, do you see what I'm saying?
  • ScottCl... The Pot... 2011/09/01 21:42:03 (edited)
    ScottClemons
    I know you didn't, I did because some are not SMART enough to do math. It was just a point!! I always knew what you were saying, you don't understand I got it because I do not agree with you, technology has changes, maybe they can pick that up faster than someone older, but the one thing that hasn't changed is they still can only think like teens, they know no other way to think of life than what they have a limited knowledge of. My teenage years were only different because technology was not the same, but the mindset of how a teen thinks has not changed! A teen is a teen and Adult an Adult for a reason, the brain is not developed fully as someone who has lived longer. WISDOM
  • The Pot... ScottCl... 2011/09/01 21:54:01
    The Potato Princess
    +1
    You said that I said they were smarter. There are plenty of adults who don't know math. I'm a teenager and I know math very well. There are plenty of teens who have life experience. Not all teenagers think the same, because not all of them are the same. There are plenty of idiot adults. Besides, adults can only think like adults. You may believe that it's better than thinking like a teenager, but sometimes it's necessary to think like a teenager.

    For example, my grandmother says that in her day, people waited until marriage to do such things as sex. Perhaps she is just saying that, but perhaps it really is true. It would be harder for her to understand why eleven year olds must be taught about protection than teenagers who are having sex already.
  • DFA 2011/08/31 18:41:11
    DFA
    +3
    Since a lot of boys hit puberty by age 12...
  • Kaimeso 2011/08/31 18:33:45
    Kaimeso
    +3
    This is from the UK,

    "From 2000 to 2007, there have been 17,626 pregnancies among under-15s - six every day. There were 268 pregnancies of 12 year-old girls, 2,527 of 13 year-olds, 14,777 of 14 year-olds and 45,861 of 15 year-olds."

    But in the US the statistics are only reported for those 15 and above,..

    year-olds 14777 14 year-olds 45861 15 year-olds statistics 15 head in sand
  • cccp~ma... Kaimeso 2011/08/31 21:12:43
    cccp~marxist-leninst
    +2
    I have noticed the same thing. The US has a Christian majority, and they want Children to believe fiction that birth control is bad. They also hate the real world that involves sex.
  • Kaimeso cccp~ma... 2011/09/01 02:52:32
    Kaimeso
    +1
    Basically they believe the evil spawn of the satan should be punished,... serious sicko's,..
  • ScottCl... Kaimeso 2011/09/01 23:22:50
    ScottClemons
    Study: Teaching Abstinence Works Better Than Sex Ed
    Mara Gay
    2010-02-02
    (Feb. 2) -- What if abstinence-only programs actually work?

    That's the question facing educators this week after a groundbreaking study found that students who take classes emphasizing abstinence are less likely to have sex than those who take classes teaching safe sex.

    Although the effectiveness and virtues of sex-ed versus abstinence-only curricula have long been the subject of fierce debate in American schools, the federal study, published in the Archives of Pediatric & Adolescent Medicine, is the first of its kind to suggest that programs encouraging students to abstain from having sex altogether are successful.

    Just under half of the students in the study who received sex-education classes that included information about contraceptives went on to have sex in the next two years. But only one out of three students in the study who received abstinence-only education did.


    What is clear is that experts and groups that had once thought abstinence-only education to be a fool's errand are taking a second look. Abstinence-only programs may be more useful than researchers originally thought. Sarah Brown, head of the National Campaign to Prevent Teen and Unplanned Pregnancy, told The Washington Post that the study was...

    Study: Teaching Abstinence Works Better Than Sex Ed
    Mara Gay
    2010-02-02
    (Feb. 2) -- What if abstinence-only programs actually work?

    That's the question facing educators this week after a groundbreaking study found that students who take classes emphasizing abstinence are less likely to have sex than those who take classes teaching safe sex.

    Although the effectiveness and virtues of sex-ed versus abstinence-only curricula have long been the subject of fierce debate in American schools, the federal study, published in the Archives of Pediatric & Adolescent Medicine, is the first of its kind to suggest that programs encouraging students to abstain from having sex altogether are successful.

    Just under half of the students in the study who received sex-education classes that included information about contraceptives went on to have sex in the next two years. But only one out of three students in the study who received abstinence-only education did.


    What is clear is that experts and groups that had once thought abstinence-only education to be a fool's errand are taking a second look. Abstinence-only programs may be more useful than researchers originally thought. Sarah Brown, head of the National Campaign to Prevent Teen and Unplanned Pregnancy, told The Washington Post that the study was "game-changing."

    Even Wagoner, who charges that studies by conservative groups like the Heritage Foundation advocating abstinence-only programs are akin to having "Santa Claus write something from the North Pole," found the federal study compelling. "This is a legitimate study from a legitimate researcher," he said. "So those of us who believe in legitimate research have to pay attention."
    (more)
  • Kaimeso ScottCl... 2011/09/01 23:43:35 (edited)
    Kaimeso
    Well in that case, problem solved since so many of our school districts have already been focusing on "Abstinence Only",...

    What is that, how many teen pregnancies were there in those districts that thought "Abstinence Only" was better?

    Sort of like the virgin contract they promoted,.. everyone signed, then went on with the usual doings,
  • Ide Clair 2011/08/31 18:32:22
    Ide Clair
    +1
    Their job is to teach the three Rs. And even that is a great challenge for them.
  • Walks_on_Clouds 2011/08/31 18:21:00
    Walks_on_Clouds
    +1
    I'm Christian and the world is already putting sex before their eyes. I believe the parents ought to be having 'the talk' by 11 and have already established babies come with marriage.

    So when the talk comes, they already have a good start on how to resist temptation, and know that babies are supposed to be associated with marriage.

    They should know that if they should get stupid, they better not bring undue chaos into the early lives of themselves who are still learning multiplication and division in math, not life.
  • The Pot... Walks_o... 2011/08/31 21:43:11
    The Potato Princess
    Babies are supposed to be associated with marriage? Aren't kids going to be confused then, when they know off people who's parents aren't married?
  • Walks_o... The Pot... 2011/09/01 17:38:20
    Walks_on_Clouds
    Babies are the fruit of the womb, blessing given in the right time. It's when we place ourselves, our own wants and lusts, desires, ahead of God's does the gift of having babies, providing for them, etc. become more difficult. Of course they know babies happen outside of marriage, but it's not God's primary plan for the parents nor the child.
  • Barbara The Pot... 2011/09/07 21:28:48
    Barbara
    theres nothing confusing about the fact that some people dont do things the right way you should wait till marriage and a stable carreer to have kids, but not everyone does what they should or have to do. simple as that
  • The Pot... Barbara 2011/09/07 21:35:16
    The Potato Princess
    Actually, to a young child that's confusing. I remember being confused about why some people don't do the right things. Also, there are plenty of people i know who want children but have no intention of marrying. And I know this woman, her parents finally got married when she was sixteen. I don't think they did things the wrong ay at all.
  • ChristabelLartey 2011/08/31 18:14:41
    ChristabelLartey
    Only if a parent wants to teach their 11 year old. I do understand that children these days do begin having sex early. I don't think that any outsiders such as the school system should do that, but what I do think that what the schools or a local clinic should do is send a letter to parents w/11 year olds, and make a suggestion with a reason, and still leave it up to the parent to decide.
  • Boblawbla 2011/08/31 18:02:00
    Boblawbla
    Unnecessary for one thing and I'm sure an isolated case.... I wouldn't teach them how to use dentures and Fix-o-dent either....... who comes up with all these wild-ass radical polls anyway?
  • tecknotron BN-0 RP2012 2011/08/31 17:55:40 (edited)
    tecknotron BN-0 RP2012
    Kids are having puberty earlier and more are interested in sex. I think that education should come before 13. My memory isn't the greatest but I'm pretty sure I stumbled upon porn for the first time before 13 and I was really into it even though it was sucky quality. Being bi-curious I even started changing after swimming lessons in the changing room cause there was this cute boy. I think I was ready for sex (as in wanted to) but do to circumstances I didn't get to. So in summary maybe even age 12 instead but kids should get that education in preparation for middle school where sex is cool (but don't be to horny or you are a pervert). Yes, it is the responsibility of parents but even my parents didn't want to talk about prevention.
  • Nikki Jones 2011/08/31 17:47:47
    Nikki Jones
    +1
    why stop here?
    .

    why not teach them about catching the Herps
  • Bella 2011/08/31 17:36:38
    Bella
    Thats just stupid,teach them now
  • FeedFwd 2011/08/31 17:23:01
    FeedFwd
    It's really not about age. Kids should not be having sex until they are emotionally ready to handle the rejection and financially ready to take responsibility for any outcome from pregnancy to STDs. Schools tend to employ a one-shoe-fits-all approach based strictly on age or grade level which doesn't necessarily correspond to maturity and responsibility. And many schools can't even successfully teach the basic 3 "R's", so why they are taking on more responsibility is beyond me. Unfortunately, when parents don't take responsibility for their kids, these kinds of government responses and poll results are likely to result. And even the best of parents can have troubles with certain kids who simply have mental, emotional, and social problems. There is probably no perfect answer, so the best thing is to let the states and communities try different approaches. Over time, we will find what works best. This was the whole idea behind federalism. Since I don't live in NY, I really don't care what they do (within reason), but I will avidly follow and study the outcome so I can make more informed decisions at election time in my own state and community.
  • Resp 2011/08/31 17:22:20
    Resp
    +1
    Condoms? Please. My 11-year-old neighbor had sex with his teacher. Then I found out that he was home schooled.
  • lindasue Resp 2011/09/01 02:29:53
    lindasue
    Glad to see someone with a sense of humor. haha
  • ♥Princess 2011/08/31 17:18:18 (edited)
    ♥Princess
    I think that already by the age of 8, a kid should be though what puberty means and the fucntions of a male body that includes hormones and all of the other male stuff. If they are tough that why not teach them about condoms. It doesnt mean that they are going to go have sex. Mybe not teache them fully about the condom process but at least teach them that they are used for preventing diseases and that they should ONLY be used when grown up. at least. Its never to late its never to soon to teach your kid about sex ed nor is it soon to teach your kids, better than haveing them doing it so soon because parents never had the courage to teach them and thwey had to do it their way by curosity. process teach preventing diseases grown late teach kid sex
  • ««Gingey, the Master Debate... 2011/08/31 17:12:15
    ««Gingey, the Master Debater of Þ|-|Дэ†»»
    +5
    So basically, the baby boomer generation is doing everything they can to f*ck up society.
  • Anna E 2011/08/31 16:54:48 (edited)
    Anna E
    +1
    Although I was undecided in my answer, there was more pros to knwoing how to be safe than cons. And it's better to be safe than sorry. I tend to be more for the condom education than against, so I'll echo dePSyChO. And I'll add that I still think parents should freakin well bite the bullet and take responsibility for teaching their kids about sex and issues like this. After all, the kids are theirs, not the education system's kids. But it looks like parents are still too willing to do the ostrich thing and stick their heads in the sand and keep their kids ignorant.
  • Gloria 2011/08/31 16:24:29
    Gloria
    Who does the Deep Dish wrap up? It's too funny!
  • pepper5419 2011/08/31 15:52:00
    pepper5419
    The parent should always have the birds and bees talk with their kids.You would be surprised by what they know long before you have that first talk.Don't wait.
  • Josh 2011/08/31 15:06:19
  • Bart 2011/08/31 15:04:01
    Bart
    +1
    i think 13 is the appropriate age because when i was 11 i did not know so much about sex but know that i am 13 i know a lot more
  • DavidK 2011/08/31 15:02:26
    DavidK
    +1
    Teaching them about safe sex at 11 years old is dead wrong. If I would have found out the schools were teaching this at that age I would have pulled my kids out of that school! (thank God for private schools! We made the right choice)

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