Quantcast

Public Opinion Says Teachers Should Get Paid $60,000 [INFOGRAPHIC]

SodaHead Infographics 2011/09/06 22:37:08
Last week we asked SodaHeads if they thought teachers should make $60,000 a year, and after nearly a week of voting we've got the results.

We asked about teacher salaries after Secretary of Education Arne Duncan suggested teachers should receive a $60,000 salary to start out, with the potential to make up to $150,000 a year.

Compared to what teachers currently make -- just over $50,000 on average -- a hike like that could mean serious investments from an already over-burdened government. But it looks like a strong majority is still in favor of going along with the salary boost.

We thought this would be the perfect question to dive into for today's infographic, so we took a deeper look at SodaHead votes and scoured the Internet for an in-depth look at relative salaries.

Let's dive.

votes scoured internet in-depth relative salaries dive click view story
You!
Add Photos & Videos

Top Opinion

  • Fef 2011/09/06 23:25:40
    Fef
    +21
    I think those with diplomas said "No" more than kids in school because those with diplomas found out the quality/results of their education.

    I believe good teachers should get paid good money -- and bad teachers should get fired.

    Unfortunately, our public employees unions prohibit either -- the unions want all teachers to make a lot of money and that just bankrupts the system and punishes the kids.

Sort By
  • Most Raves
  • Least Raves
  • Oldest
  • Newest
Opinions

  • Charles E 2011/09/06 23:55:11
    Charles E
    The median income is for 12 months work, minus some vacation.
    The median teacher's income is for nine months with several holidays thrown in.
    So, on a 12 month basis, teachers earn over $67,000.
    And have better fringe benefits than a vast majority of workers.
  • JohnFitzgeral12 2011/09/06 23:46:38
    JohnFitzgeral12
    +1
    So a rise of 10K is going to turn it all around? Yeah right...
  • Charles E JohnFit... 2011/09/06 23:57:09
    Charles E
    +2
    If they got paid at the same rate for 12 months work, they would need a $7,000 CUT to reach $60,000.
  • RobJohn JohnFit... 2011/09/07 00:43:56
    RobJohn
    Thats what they said 40, 30, 20 and 10 years ago, that it would improve everything.
  • twhiting9275 2011/09/06 23:45:37
    twhiting9275
    +1
    Still standing by my "HELL NO".

    Until this country starts performing better in education testing, we have zero right to demand, request, or complain about teacher's pay. Sorry, but if you can't do the job, you CLEARLY aren't qualified to do it, and paying you more isn't going to solve THAT specific problem.

    Come see me when we rise above the utter crap we're in and start performing well enough in tests.
  • the frenchy 2011/09/06 23:40:11
    the frenchy
    yep i agree with fef or whatever
  • Bboop4444plus 2011/09/06 23:39:46
    Bboop4444plus
    NO! You should get paid according to the area you live in and the value of your work. School choice would be awesome because parents would take their vouchers to schools that had the best teachers. Schools will start paying better teachers more to attract students. Win win!
  • Charles E Bboop44... 2011/09/06 23:59:29
    Charles E
    Only if you can overcome the Teachers Unions that demand the same pay for a 5 year jock as for a 5 year physics teacher.
    And if the jock becomes a coach, there will be a raise that will never be matched for the sponsor of the science club.
  • True~Male Charles E 2011/09/07 00:45:57
    True~Male
    The School support teams need more money too . school support teams money  Custodians   school support teams money Bus Drivers   school support teams money School lunch programs    school support teams money Cafeteria workers
  • the frenchy 2011/09/06 23:39:41
    the frenchy
    i think its good
  • the frenchy 2011/09/06 23:39:24
    the frenchy
    hello
  • the frenchy 2011/09/06 23:39:09
  • AnimaniacClur 2011/09/06 23:35:17
    AnimaniacClur
    +1
    Yeah, but although I do support some union-ness, we need to chuck out the bad teachers. (I'm a future teacher. 60k salary, here I come! XD)
  • Fef 2011/09/06 23:25:40
    Fef
    +21
    I think those with diplomas said "No" more than kids in school because those with diplomas found out the quality/results of their education.

    I believe good teachers should get paid good money -- and bad teachers should get fired.

    Unfortunately, our public employees unions prohibit either -- the unions want all teachers to make a lot of money and that just bankrupts the system and punishes the kids.
  • the fre... Fef 2011/09/06 23:40:51
    the frenchy
    +2
    i agreeeeeeeeeee
  • twhitin... Fef 2011/09/06 23:42:58
    twhiting9275
    +5
    My name is twhiting9275 and I endorse this statement :P

    Seriously, make it based on their performance, and their outcome. If better than 5% of their class can barely pass, there's OBVIOUSLY a problem with the teacher's relation to students, and they're in the wrong job.
  • Charles E Fef 2011/09/07 00:01:16
    Charles E
    +4
    And coaches get more extra pay than teacher sponsors of any intellectual extracurricular activity.
  • True~Male Fef 2011/09/07 00:47:18
    True~Male
    +2
    I agree
  • Unusual... Fef 2011/09/07 00:50:11
    UnusualSuspect
    +2
    What would be the reason(s) unions "want all teachers to make a lot of money?"

    That makes no sense. Unions know bad teachers only give the educational system a black eye and are a drain on the local school systems' monies when they underperform. Unions want to get rid of the teachers who underperform as much as anyone else.

    It usually takes a few years to see how well a new teachers adapts and performs in any school. And not all teachers get tenure. Those who stand out as not being capable of doing the job right are left without it, and tend to leave for another kind of job.
  • Fef Unusual... 2011/09/07 16:14:41
    Fef
    +2
    I also want all great teachers that inspire, educate and prepare our kids for a realistic future.

    I want teachers to work in private/voucher schools so parents can pick/choose what schools will succeed or fail.

    I can dream....
  • trentin... Fef 2011/09/07 05:39:33
    trentinafur
    +1
    "I think those with diplomas said "No" more than kids in school because those with diplomas found out the quality/results of their education."

    But those with diplomas voted OVERWHELMINGLY YES on this poll, Fef. 72% to 28%. That's not a slight margin. That's an ass-whoopin' landslide.

    C'mon fef. You can do better than that. Although I'm sure the non-degreed folks on here fully endorse your response.
  • Kochman trentin... 2011/09/07 15:05:46 (edited)
    Kochman
    +1
    SH is hardly a scientific survey! I wouldn't hang my Liberal hat on that, trent!

    Any pay consideration must be tied to the Teachers Performance.


    And you should know better than most, education or the desire to become educated is a self-motivated issue. Teachers have a significant impact on students in the begining, but in the long term, it switches to self reliance. As it should.The further a student goes in persuing their education the more it rests on the individual to perform, not the system to push them through.
  • trentin... Kochman 2011/09/07 15:39:08
  • trentin... Kochman 2011/09/07 17:04:08
    trentinafur
    +1
    gotta give you credit for not attempting to defend the defenseless positions you posted above. that would've been pretty useless on your part.
  • Fef Kochman 2011/09/07 16:13:35
    Fef
    +2
    I'd love to tie pay based on merit. You'll have to fight the teachers' unions on that one.
  • Kochman Fef 2011/09/07 16:16:34
    Kochman
    +2
    Yep, I believe it's a fight worth fighting!
  • trentin... Fef 2011/09/07 17:09:22
    trentinafur
    +1
    raising average teacher salaries and instituting performance mgmt are not mutually exclusive. Why do you guys make it sound like it's one or the other? I don't get that.

    Whether it's tv's or teachers - you get what you pay for. If you raise the average salaries of teachers, that will attract more and better people to the profession. That alone will raise the bar. IN ADDITION TO THAT - institute corporate world performance measurement systems for annual evaluations, raises (or cuts), performance plans, and terminations.

    This is not difficult. But you have to raise the bar on pay to get more and stronger people to select Education as a major in college.
  • Unusual... trentin... 2011/09/07 17:26:06
    UnusualSuspect
    +1
    Well said!
  • Kochman trentin... 2011/09/08 17:19:46 (edited)
    Kochman
    The pay will be determined by the market need. If you have individuals that are willing to work for less, and that brings down the average wage, so be it! That is what we call Capitalism.

    What you are proposing is Communism/Socialism, where everyone gets the same regardless of their performance.

    Now, if you instutute a performance liscencing test, like in Nursing, you can weed out those teachers that just squeeked by in school. The State would be able to insure that only the best qualified are allowed into the profession. Each state would have this liscencing process based on their requirements.

    A move like that might enhance the prestiege of the profession and would then command the increase in wages you are seeking.

    I have many friends that are outstanding teachers, but they feel disenfranchized by their union because of the large number of under-performing teachers that are protected.

    There are many factors to consider before we just throw more money at a broken system. And your solution would not work!
  • trentin... Kochman 2011/09/08 17:27:34
    trentinafur
    Sure - you can find high school dropouts on the street who will come in and teach your kids for 3 meals a day, and sleeping on the floor in the classroom. I guess that's what Georgia has done.



    As for us in California, we want our kids to get outstanding educations from outstanding educators. That costs more than the dropouts you're apparently willing to have teach your kids.
  • lucky Fef 2011/09/07 15:29:43
    lucky
    +3
    You deserve triple raves for that one..
  • tewaz1 Fef 2011/09/08 05:06:12
    tewaz1
    +1
    I couldn't agree more. The kind of negligence and apathy I've seen from some public school teachers is horrifying. The number of promising kids that fall through the gap really deprives our society of some potentially very productive and even innovative young people, all because teachers couldn't be bothered to nurture a student's potential.
    I agree wholeheartedly with performance based employment and salary, but note that we also need desperately to reduce our student per teacher ratio so that good teachers can really do their job and give each student the attention they need.
  • Deb 2011/09/06 23:20:32
    Deb
    +3
    I still stand by my firm no.
  • FordCrews 2011/09/06 23:20:30
    FordCrews
    +4
    I'm sure most that voted yes, didn't see the starting at 60k. Hell engineers, lawyers, nurses don't start out at 60k, there is no way someone just out of school, teaching kids should, especially when you consider that in the last 20 years we have tripled spending on education, and scores and graduation rates have gone DOWN, while dropout rates have risen.
  • Deb FordCrews 2011/09/06 23:21:06
  • Liza Jane Deb 2011/09/06 23:36:06
    Liza Jane
    +2
    *Ditto
  • Charles E FordCrews 2011/09/07 00:03:03
    Charles E
    And teachers are typically near the bottom of the college graduating scale in performance and test scores.
  • Unusual... Charles E 2011/09/07 00:55:07
    UnusualSuspect
    Do you have a link to show us that fact?
  • BJ Charles E 2011/09/07 14:59:47 (edited)
    BJ
    +1
    My daughter is a teacher. She graduated summa cum laude with a major in French and then earned a university medal at another university for highest standing in her Education degree, which included certification as a full-immersion, bilingual educator. She now has a Masters in Counseling and is qualified to both teach and work as a guidance counselor. Her husband has a Masters as well and was a dean's-list student at university; he became a secondary vice-principal at the age of 26 and is now a principal. I was a secondary-school teacher until my retirement. I earned a university medal in sociology and obtained several scholarships based on academic merit; I also belong to Mensa. I'm not trying to sound boastful, just to point out that we are not unusual! We are also not in the USA so perhaps our experiences are irrelevant to the question. Teacher-education degree programs here are so competitive that many applicants can't get in. Admission requirements are very stringent. I'm not sure where your statement originates but I do find it disturbingly unsupported. Where might such low-achieving "teachers" be found?

    And - oh, yeah - our starting salaries begin at well under $40,000. In my first year, back in the long-ago late 'Sixties, I earned the magnificent sum of $5700 (and no, th...
    My daughter is a teacher. She graduated summa cum laude with a major in French and then earned a university medal at another university for highest standing in her Education degree, which included certification as a full-immersion, bilingual educator. She now has a Masters in Counseling and is qualified to both teach and work as a guidance counselor. Her husband has a Masters as well and was a dean's-list student at university; he became a secondary vice-principal at the age of 26 and is now a principal. I was a secondary-school teacher until my retirement. I earned a university medal in sociology and obtained several scholarships based on academic merit; I also belong to Mensa. I'm not trying to sound boastful, just to point out that we are not unusual! We are also not in the USA so perhaps our experiences are irrelevant to the question. Teacher-education degree programs here are so competitive that many applicants can't get in. Admission requirements are very stringent. I'm not sure where your statement originates but I do find it disturbingly unsupported. Where might such low-achieving "teachers" be found?

    And - oh, yeah - our starting salaries begin at well under $40,000. In my first year, back in the long-ago late 'Sixties, I earned the magnificent sum of $5700 (and no, there's not a zero missing). Who in his or her right mind would work so hard on an education and then enter a profession that offers so little financial incentive? Only those who truly want to be there will stay for very long.
    (more)
  • Unusual... Charles E 2011/09/08 15:30:10
    UnusualSuspect
    Hey...still waiting for a link or something so I can see what you say is true...

Living

2013/06/19 07:27:24

Hot Questions on SodaHead
More Hot Questions

More Community More Originals