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PUBLIC OPINION > Most People Think That Cigarettes Are Worse For You Than Pot

SodaHead Living 2012/06/12 18:00:00
Teenagers are faced with a lot of temptations, both in and out of school, and for many, it's hard to keep those danger levels straight. That can be troubling for parents. For instance, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention recently reported that fewer teens are smoking cigarettes, but more teens are smoking pot. Is that better or worse that the status quo? We asked the public for some input.

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Fortunately for parents, it looks like the trend toward pot is a positive sign. Not much is known about the long-term physical effects of marijuana, so it's very difficult to cite plausible information on its dangers, but the fact that it's so difficult to connect to major concerns like lung cancer and brain development gives it a good leg up. Tobacco is a confirmed killer; pot is a confirmed couch-magnet.

Teens Against Tobacco

Anyone who's been affected by tobacco, either directly or through the loss of a loved one, should be thrilled to see that teens are well aware of the dangers of cigarettes. Of course, this isn't the same as asking if tobacco is dangerous, but if teens are thinking critically enough to place it above pot on the danger scale, it's still a great sign.

Conservatives Consult the Law

Health isn't the only issue at hand here. There are also legal issues to consider. While it is illegal for teens to buy tobacco products, getting caught with weed will get you in way more trouble, regardless of age. Conservatives were one of the few demographics to say weed is a greater danger, and many respondents cited the substance's legality as a reason.

Women Warn Against Cigs

We really weren't sure what to expect when it came to gender, but sure enough, a correlation did emerge. Men were actually much more likely than women to cite pot as a dangerous substance for teens. Typically, gender-related smoking statistics aren't that pronounced, and the smoking demographic showed no difference anyway. Maybe it's just the smell.

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  • John Galt jr or Ron/jon 2012/07/28 03:28:16
  • dragon88 2012/06/18 21:56:16
    dragon88
    Cigarettes.
  • BobbyOdd 2012/06/14 22:06:26
    BobbyOdd
    they shouldn't smoke anything till they graduate. then pot, but only on friday nights. lol
  • Jas 2012/06/14 20:10:47
    Jas
    Ummm, yea! But in reality both are harmful.
  • Ken123 Jas 2012/07/15 01:03:29
    Ken123
    So is High Fructose Corn Syrup but I don't see it discussed on this site.
  • Josh Robinson 2012/06/14 20:06:42
    Josh Robinson
    This restores some of my faith in humanity...! darwin award gif darwin award  gif darwin award  gif
  • BobbyOdd Josh Ro... 2012/06/14 22:07:13
    BobbyOdd
    +1
    Hahaha! Funny vids!
  • Bart 2012/06/14 19:54:43
  • Nate Hubert 2012/06/14 19:42:32 (edited)
    Nate Hubert
    +1
    One of them leads to extreme addiction and cravings, depression, anxiety, stress, long-term health problems, and claims hundreds of thousands of lives each year....... the other is illegal. You tell me which is worse.
  • Fariborz-Zak 2012/06/14 05:48:53
    Fariborz-Zak
    both r bad
  • DizziNY 2012/06/14 04:16:53
    DizziNY
    +4
    There are many reasons why marijuana is not worse
    for you than smoking cigarettes. You may have heard
    that “one joint is equal to ten cigarettes” but this is
    exaggerated and misleading. Marijuana does contain more tar
    than tobacco — but low tar cigarettes cause just as much
    cancer, so what is that supposed to mean? Scientists have
    shown that smoking any plant is bad for your lungs, because
    it increases the number of ‘lesions’ in your small airways.
    This usually does not threaten your life, but there is a
    chance it will lead to infections. Marijuana users who are
    worried about this can find less harmful ways of taking
    marijuana like eating or vaporizing. (Be careful –
    marijuana is safe to eat — but tobacco is not, you might
    overdose!) Marijuana does not cause cancer the way
    tobacco does, though.

    Here is a list of interesting facts about marijuana smoking
    and tobacco smoking:

    o Marijuana smokers generally don’t chain smoke,
    and so they smoke less. (Marijuana is not physically
    addictive like tobacco.) The more potent marijuana
    is, the less a smoker will use at a time.

    o Tobacco contains nicotine, and marijuana doesn’t.
    Nicotine may harden the arteries and may be
    responsible for much of the heart disease caused by
    tobacco. New research has found that it may also
    cause a lot of ...



































































    There are many reasons why marijuana is not worse
    for you than smoking cigarettes. You may have heard
    that “one joint is equal to ten cigarettes” but this is
    exaggerated and misleading. Marijuana does contain more tar
    than tobacco — but low tar cigarettes cause just as much
    cancer, so what is that supposed to mean? Scientists have
    shown that smoking any plant is bad for your lungs, because
    it increases the number of ‘lesions’ in your small airways.
    This usually does not threaten your life, but there is a
    chance it will lead to infections. Marijuana users who are
    worried about this can find less harmful ways of taking
    marijuana like eating or vaporizing. (Be careful –
    marijuana is safe to eat — but tobacco is not, you might
    overdose!) Marijuana does not cause cancer the way
    tobacco does, though.

    Here is a list of interesting facts about marijuana smoking
    and tobacco smoking:

    o Marijuana smokers generally don’t chain smoke,
    and so they smoke less. (Marijuana is not physically
    addictive like tobacco.) The more potent marijuana
    is, the less a smoker will use at a time.

    o Tobacco contains nicotine, and marijuana doesn’t.
    Nicotine may harden the arteries and may be
    responsible for much of the heart disease caused by
    tobacco. New research has found that it may also
    cause a lot of the cancer in tobacco smokers and
    people who live or work where tobacco is smoked.
    This is because it breaks down into a cancer causing
    chemical called `N Nitrosamine’ when it is burned
    (and maybe even while it is inside the body as well.)

    o Marijuana contains THC. THC is a bronchial dilator,
    which means it works like a cough drop and opens up
    your lungs, which aids clearance of smoke and dirt.
    Nicotine does just the opposite; it makes your lungs
    bunch up and makes it harder to cough anything up.

    o There are benefits from marijuana (besides bronchial
    dilation) that you don’t get from tobacco. Mainly,
    marijuana makes you relax, which improves your health
    and well-being.

    o Scientists do not really know what it is that causes
    malignant lung cancer in tobacco. Many think it may
    be a substance known as Lead 210. Of course, there
    are many other theories as to what does cause cancer,
    but if this is true, it is easy to see why no case of lung
    cancer resulting from marijuana use alone has
    ever been documented, because tobacco contains
    much more of this substance than marijuana.

    o Marijuana laws make it harder to use marijuana
    without damaging your body. Water-pipes are illegal
    in many states. Filtered cigarettes, vaporizers, and
    inhalers have to be mass produced, which is hard to
    arrange `underground.’ People don’t eat marijuana
    often because you need more to get as high that way,
    and it isn’t cheap or easy to get (which is the
    reason why some people will stoop to smoking leaves.)
    This may sound funny to you — but the more legal
    marijuana gets, the safer it is.

    It is pretty obvious to users that marijuana prohibition
    laws are not “for their own good.” In addition to the
    above, legal marijuana would be clean and free from
    adulterants. Some people add other drugs to marijuana
    before they sell it. Some people spray room freshener on it
    or soak in in chemicals like formaldehyde! A lot of the
    marijuana is grown outdoors, where it may be sprayed with
    pesticides or contaminated with dangerous fungi. If the
    government really cared about our health, they would form an
    agency which would make sure only quality marijuana was
    sold. This would be cheaper than keeping it illegal, and it
    would keep people from getting hurt and going to the
    emergency room.

    FACT: Studies have shown that smoking marijuana does NOT increase your chance of getting cancer and may even lower it slightly! Of course, vaping or eating cannabis are still considered the safest methods of ingestion especially for daily consumers.

    “Early on, when our research appeared as if there would be a negative impact on lung health, I was opposed to legalization because I thought it would lead to increased use and that would lead to increased health effects,” Tashkin says. “But at this point, I’d be in favor of legalization.
    Tobacco smoking causes far more harm. And in terms of an intoxicant, alcohol causes far more harm.

    UCLA’s Tashkin studied heavy marijuana smokers to determine whether the use led to increased risk of lung cancer and chronic obstructive pulmonary disease, or COPD. He hypothesized that there would be a definitive link between cancer and marijuana smoking, but the results proved otherwise.

    “What we found instead was no association and even a suggestion of some protective effect,” says Tashkin, whose research was the largest case-control study ever conducted. Listen to Tashkin’s full video here

    UPDATE

    Source A new study, published in this month’s Journal of the American Medical Association, tested the lung function of over 5,000 young adults between 18 and 30. After 20 years of testing, researchers found some buzzworthy results: regular marijuana smokers (defined by up to a joint a day for seven years) had no discernible impairment in lung activity from non-smokers.

    In fact, researchers were surprised to find marijuana smokers performed slightly better than both smokers and non-smokers on the lung performance test. Why? The most likely explanation seems to be that the act of inhaling marijuana—holding each puff in for as long as possible—is a lot like a pulmonary function test, giving marijuana smokers an edge over their cigarette smoking counterparts.

    For most of human existence, cannabis has been considered a medicine. Queen Victoria used it to alleviate her menstrual cramps. Extracts were prescribed by doctors and available at every pharmacy in the U.S. According to Fast Food Nation author Eric Schlosser, attitudes toward cannabis only shifted when Americans began to notice and object to its use by immigrants around the turn of the 20th century.

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  • Ken123 DizziNY 2012/07/07 22:19:30
    Ken123
    Hardening arteries is caused by many different things, i.e., Insulin Resistance number one, artificial sweetners, and poor breathing techniques to name a few. Marijuana is a mind altering drug which makes the user think he's invincible and can fly like Superman. I've seen a cigarrette smoker splatter himself on a sidewalk because of beliefs of supernatural abilities.
  • DizziNY 2012/06/14 04:14:09 (edited)
    DizziNY
    +4
    Smoking Marijuana Does Not Cause Lung Cancer



    Pulmonary Researcher, Donald Tashkin and colleagues at UCLA conducted a major study in which they measured lung function of various cohorts over eight years and found that tobacco-only smokers had an accelerated rate of decline, but marijuana smokers –even if they smoked tobacco as well– experienced the same rate of decline as non-smokers.



    “The more tobacco smoked, the greater the rate of decline,” said Tashkin. “In contrast, no matter how much marijuana was smoked, the rate of decline was similar to normal.” (Scroll down for video interview)





    New research shows there seems to be something in pot that actually undermines cancer, instead of causing it – and the media are doing their best to ignore it.



    (Source: Alternet)



    Editor’s Note: There is a groundswell of attention in the news to marijuana’s role in causing and preventing various types of cancers. Last week, AlterNet published an article from the Marijuana Policy Project about a new study finding that pot smokers have a lower risk of head and neck cancers than people who don’t smoke pot. Earlier this year, the corporate media pounced on a study suggesting that men who had been using marijuana at least once per week and who had started smoking pot prior to age 18 had an elevated risk ...















































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    Smoking Marijuana Does Not Cause Lung Cancer



    Pulmonary Researcher, Donald Tashkin and colleagues at UCLA conducted a major study in which they measured lung function of various cohorts over eight years and found that tobacco-only smokers had an accelerated rate of decline, but marijuana smokers –even if they smoked tobacco as well– experienced the same rate of decline as non-smokers.



    “The more tobacco smoked, the greater the rate of decline,” said Tashkin. “In contrast, no matter how much marijuana was smoked, the rate of decline was similar to normal.” (Scroll down for video interview)





    New research shows there seems to be something in pot that actually undermines cancer, instead of causing it – and the media are doing their best to ignore it.



    (Source: Alternet)



    Editor’s Note: There is a groundswell of attention in the news to marijuana’s role in causing and preventing various types of cancers. Last week, AlterNet published an article from the Marijuana Policy Project about a new study finding that pot smokers have a lower risk of head and neck cancers than people who don’t smoke pot. Earlier this year, the corporate media pounced on a study suggesting that men who had been using marijuana at least once per week and who had started smoking pot prior to age 18 had an elevated risk of testicular cancer known as nonseminoma, which makes up fewer than half of one percent of all cancer cases among men.



    Head, neck and testicular cancers are of course quite serious ailments to deal with, but what about cancer of the most obvious organ at risk with pot smoking, the lungs? Where’s the science on that? The article below by Fred Gardner, editor of the medical marijuana research quarterly journal O’Shaughnessy’s, shares the results of a major medical study the media completely ignored, and his conclusions are quite blunt on the matter: Smoking pot doesn’t cause lung cancer. In fact, the study found that cigarette smokers who also smoked marijuana were at a lower risk of contracting lung cancer than tobacco-only smokers.



    Smoking Marijuana Does Not Cause Lung Cancer



    by Fred Gardner



    One in three Americans will be afflicted with cancer, we are told by the government (as if it’s our immutable fate and somehow acceptable). Cancer is the second-leading cause of death in the U.S. and lung cancer the leading killer among cancers.



    You’d think it would have been very big news in June 2005 when UCLA medical school professor Donald Tashkin reported that components of marijuana smoke — although they damage cells in respiratory tissue — somehow prevent them from becoming malignant. In other words, something in marijuana exerts an anti-cancer effect!



    Tashkin has special credibility. He was the lead investigator on studies dating back to the 1970s that identified the components in marijuana smoke that are toxic. It was Tashkin et al. who published photomicrographs showing that marijuana smoke damages cells lining the upper airways. It was the Tashkin lab’s finding that benzpyrene — a component of tobacco smoke that plays a role in most lung cancers — is especially prevalent in marijuana smoke. It was Tashkin’s data showing that marijuana smokers are more likely than non-smokers to cough, wheeze, and produce sputum.



    Tashkin reviewed his findings in April 2008, at a conference organized by “Patients Out of Time,” a reform group devoted to educating doctors and the public (as opposed to lobbying politicians). Some 30 MDs and nurses got continuing medical education credits for attending the event, which was held at Asilomar, on the Monterey Peninsula.



    The National Institute on Drug Abuse, which supported Tashkin’s marijuana-related research over the decades, readily gave him a grant in 2002 to conduct a large, population-based, case-controlled study that would prove definitively that heavy, long-term marijuana use increases the risk of lung and upper-airways cancers.



    What Tashkin and his colleagues found, however, disproved their hypothesis. (Tashkin is to marijuana as a cause of lung cancer what Hans Blix was to Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction — an honest investigator who set out to find something, concluded that it wasn’t there, and reported his results.)



    Tashkin’s team interviewed 1,212 cancer patients from the Los Angeles County Cancer Surveillance program, matched for age, gender, and neighborhood with 1,040 cancer-free controls. Marijuana use was measured in “joint years” (number of years smoked times number of joints per day).



    It turned out that increased marijuana use did not result in higher rates of lung and pharyngeal cancer, whereas tobacco smokers were at greater risk the more they smoked. Tobacco smokers who also smoked marijuana were at slightly lower risk of getting lung cancer than tobacco-only smokers.



    These findings were not deemed worthy of publication in “NIDA Notes.” Tashkin reported them at the 2005 meeting of the International Cannabinoid Research Society. They were published in the October 2006 issue of Cancer Epidemiology Biomarkers & Prevention.



    Without a press release from NIDA calling attention to its significance, the assignment editors of America had no idea that “Marijuana Use and the Risk of Lung and Upper Aerodigestive Tract Cancers: Results of a Population-Based Case-Control Study” by Mia Hashibe1, Hal Morgenstern, Yan Cui, Donald P. Tashkin, Zuo-Feng Zhang, Wendy Cozen, Thomas M. Mack and Sander Greenland was a blockbuster story.



    I suggested to Eric Bailey of the L.A. Times that he write up Tashkin’s findings — UCLA provided the local angle if the anti-cancer effect wasn’t enough. Bailey said his editors wouldn’t be interested for some time because he had just filed a marijuana-related piece. The Tashkin scoop is still there for the taking!



    Tashkin Defends His Findings



    Investigators from New Zealand recently got widespread media attention for a study contradicting Tashkin’s results. “Heavy cannabis users may be at greater risk of chronic lung disease –including cancer– compared to tobacco smokers,” is how BBC News summed up the New Zealanders’ findings.



    The very small size of the study –79 smokers took part, 21 of whom smoked cannabis only– was not held against the authors. In fact, the small New Zealand study was given much more coverage by the corporate press than the large UCLA study that preceded it.



    The New Zealand study was portrayed as the latest word on this important subject. As if scientific inquiry were some kind of tennis match and the truth just gets truthier with every volley.



    Tashkin criticized the New Zealanders’ methodology in his talk at Asilomar: “There’s some cognitive dissonance associated with the interpretation of their findings. I think this has to do with the belief model among the investigators and –I wish they were here to defend themselves– the integrity of the investigators… They actually published another paper in which they mimicked the design that we used for looking at lung function.”



    Tashkin spoke from the stage of an airy redwood chapel designed by Julia Morgan. He is pink-cheeked, 70ish, wears wire-rimmed spectacles. “For tobacco they found what you’d expect: a higher risk for lung cancer and a clear dose-response relationship. A 24-fold increase in the people who smoked the most… What about marijuana? If they smoked a small or moderate amount there was no increased risk, in fact slightly less than one. But if they were in the upper third of the group, then their risk was six-fold… A rather surprising finding, and one has to be cautious about interpreting the results because of the very small number of cases — fourteen— and controls — four.”



    Tashkin said the New Zealanders employed “statistical sleight of hand.” He deemed it “completely implausible that smokers of only 365 joints of marijuana have a risk for developing lung cancer similar to that of smokers of 7,000 tobacco cigarettes… Their small sample size led to vastly inflated estimates… They had said ‘it’s ideal to do the study in New Zealand because we have a much higher prevalence of marijuana smoking.’ But 88 percent of their controls had never smoked marijuana, whereas 36% of our controls (in Los Angeles) had never smoked marijuana. Why did so few of the controls smoke marijuana? Something fishy about that!”



    Strong words for a UCLA School of Medicine professor!



    As to the highly promising implication of his own study –that something in marijuana stops damaged cells from becoming malignant— Tashkin noted that an anti-proliferative effect of THC has been observed in cell-culture systems and animal models of brain, breast, prostate, and lung cancer. THC has been shown to promote apoptosis (damaged cells die instead of reproducing) and to counter angiogenesis (the process by which blood vessels are formed —a requirement of tumor growth). Other antioxidants in cannabis may also be involved in countering malignancy, said Tashkin.



    COPD



    Much of Tashkin’s talk was devoted to Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease, another condition prevalent among tobacco smokers. Chronic bronchitis and emphysema are two forms of COPD, which is the fourth-leading cause of death in the United States. Air pollution and tobacco smoke are known culprits. Inhaled pathogens cause an inflammatory response, resulting in diminished lung function. COPD patients have increasing difficulty clearing the airways as they get older.



    Tashkin and colleagues at UCLA conducted a major study in which they measured lung function of various cohorts over eight years and found that tobacco-only smokers had an accelerated rate of decline, but marijuana smokers –even if they smoked tobacco as well– experienced the same rate of decline as non-smokers.



    “The more tobacco smoked, the greater the rate of decline,” said Tashkin. “In contrast, no matter how much marijuana was smoked, the rate of decline was similar to normal.”



    Tashkin concluded that his and other studies “do not support the concept that regular smoking of marijuana leads to COPD.”



    Breathe easier, everybody.



    Fred Gardner is the editor of O’Shaughnessy’s, a quarterly journal of the California Cannabis Research Medical Group.



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  • BobbyOdd DizziNY 2012/06/14 22:08:30
    BobbyOdd
    lol
  • Ken123 DizziNY 2012/07/07 22:28:01
    Ken123
    How big was the grant did Tashkin recreive from the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation for his findings? Was was the nature of the virus caused by cigarette smoking? Every carcinigen found in tobacco is also found in natural state in nature and is the same carcinigens found in conbustible engine exhaust, Gasoline and Diesel.
  • Red_Horse 2012/06/14 03:13:16
  • ***♥Dot_Warner♥*** 2012/06/14 02:28:32
    ***♥Dot_Warner♥***
    +3
    Cigarettes are worse because they actually put a whole bunch of other stuff in them besides tobacco which can cause addictions and illnesses. Weed is more natural than a cigarette is so in the case of the two, pot is better...
  • Ken123 ***♥Dot... 2012/07/28 16:19:43
    Ken123
    Lung Cancer is a idiopathic disease, no one knows what causes it. If they did they could find a cure for it. There has been a significant increase of non-smoker lung cancer, so much so tnat a univesity in San Marcus has been awarded a grant to investigate why.
  • Ken123 ***♥Dot... 2012/10/06 14:49:12
  • Joanna the Great 2012/06/14 01:41:30
    Joanna the Great
    +4
    All I know is, I smoke both cigarettes and pot, and when I can't get any weed for a week it's no big deal, but if I go to a movie and can't have a cigarette for two hours I get antsy and irritable.
  • Ken123 Joanna ... 2012/07/07 22:30:41
    Ken123
    The trick is buy and view your movies at home.
  • Cinna 2012/06/14 01:35:29
  • ♥•judy•♥ 2012/06/14 01:21:58
    ♥•judy•♥
    +1
    well bot of them will KILL you so ill have to go with both since they will rotten your lungs and give you lung sickness my uncle been there and done that
  • L1 ♥•judy•♥ 2012/06/14 02:48:32
    L1
    Agreed! Thank you.
  • ♥•judy•♥ L1 2012/06/16 02:43:06
    ♥•judy•♥
    +1
    THANK YOU FOR UNDER STANDING!
  • DizziNY ♥•judy•♥ 2012/06/14 04:35:10
    DizziNY
    +2
    There are many reasons why marijuana is not worse
    for you than smoking cigarettes. You may have heard
    that “one joint is equal to ten cigarettes” but this is
    exaggerated and misleading. Marijuana does contain more tar
    than tobacco — but low tar cigarettes cause just as much
    cancer, so what is that supposed to mean? Scientists have
    shown that smoking any plant is bad for your lungs, because
    it increases the number of ‘lesions’ in your small airways.
    This usually does not threaten your life, but there is a
    chance it will lead to infections. Marijuana users who are
    worried about this can find less harmful ways of taking
    marijuana like eating or vaporizing. (Be careful –
    marijuana is safe to eat — but tobacco is not, you might
    overdose!) Marijuana does not cause cancer the way
    tobacco does, though.
  • BobbyOdd DizziNY 2012/06/14 22:09:16
    BobbyOdd
    lol
  • KCMamabear ♥•judy•♥ 2012/06/14 19:39:34
    KCMamabear
    Actually, weed won't kill you. It doesn't cause cancer and it's not addictive. People who smoke weed are calmer, more relaxed and less stressed. That alone will give you another 10 years or more on your life.
  • BobbyOdd KCMamabear 2012/06/14 22:09:37
    BobbyOdd
    it does cause cancer.
  • KCMamabear BobbyOdd 2012/09/25 17:07:16
  • ♥•judy•♥ KCMamabear 2012/06/16 02:42:44
    ♥•judy•♥
    they are rottening you out my uncle almost died for that his lungs were sollowen and he couldnt breath that moring as i said lung sickness for weed smokeing and ever thing it will just get you high intill you pass out BOOM AND THEN YOU DONT KNOW WHAT HAPPENS! it does not mater if your drinking weed is not ok!!!
  • KCMamabear ♥•judy•♥ 2012/09/25 17:14:07 (edited)
    KCMamabear
    I can't really understand what you're trying to say, because your grammar is terrible, but I'll do my best to respond. People don't pass out from weed, that would be alcohol. I have watched people smoke joints the size of your head - by themselves - and not pass out. It doesn't happen. Also, lung issues don't arise from using weed, that would be cigarettes. However most people where I live that smoke weed, also smoke cigarettes, so I can understand your confusion as your uncle most likely smoked cigarettes too. Swollen lungs has absolutely NEVER been recorded as an effect of smoking pot. I've done my research. How about you?
  • Cap 2012/06/14 01:20:56
    Cap
    +1
    I think the idea of comparing the two is sort of ill-conceived. Besides the fact that we are comparing different types of dangers, we're comparing different types of people. Do I care if my bus driver smokes a pack of cigarettes when driving us from NYC to Miami? Well, better that than a fistful of joints. My TV repairman? What he picks is his choice and IDC (though I'm not going to pay him until my TV works). Lastly and most significantly, we're given no basis to compare volume. If people would limit themselves to five cigarettes a week, tobacco as a Public Health menace would be a joke. Five joints a week? Probably not a problem, but it would bother me more if my 28 y/o son did 5 joints than five cigarettes. Weed's legality is a BS issue and a solvable one at that. I'm a conservative, but I'll be the first to admit that conservatives are far too likely to become unduly discombobulated when someone waves around the bogeyman of legality.
  • Drug Free 2012/06/14 01:19:34
    Drug Free
    +1
    How about choosing to not smoke either one of the nasty substances...DUH!
  • L1 Drug Free 2012/06/14 02:48:12
    L1
    Exactly! Thanks!
  • Drug Free L1 2012/06/20 02:41:19 (edited)
    Drug Free
    +1
    You really wonder why people smoke and then defend the habit...as if being stubborn and rebellious about their rights to smoke the crap and "no on will tell what to do" is some sort of worthwhile cause worth defending..or something along those lines of thinking.
    What makes a smoker continue smoking while they know it is unhealthy and risky???
  • L1 Drug Free 2012/06/20 03:36:06
    L1
    They don't like being told what to do; they just don't.
  • Drug Free L1 2012/06/20 14:18:44
    Drug Free
    +1
    Hard to feel sorry for them when they do suffer the consequences of their risky behaviour, while they are now in need of help from the same people they told: "Mind your own business and do not tell me what to do"!
  • Ken123 L1 2012/07/07 22:39:03
    Ken123
    How do you think they feel about the Affordable Healthcare Act (Obamacare)?
  • L1 Ken123 2012/07/08 01:41:01
    L1
    Who knows what smokers feel about Obamacare? I haven't asked any....

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