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PUBLIC OPINION > It's Still Harder to Be a Woman

SodaHead Living 2012/07/17 21:00:00
Women recently outscored men in IQ testing research for the first time in a century, but that doesn't necessarily mean life is easier on them. Women have made a lot of social, political and financial progress during that time... But is it still harder to be a woman? Hahajk.com asked the public.

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The short answer is yes, most people think it is still harder to be a woman. However, the original question had two separate responses for each answer. The most popular answer overall was "Yes, but it's getting better." So despite the discouraging result, there's quite a bit of optimism out there. The most popular "No" response was that everyone gets "a fair shake."

Men Call It Even


Gender was, not surprisingly, the most divisive demographic. In fact, men were the only major demographic that gave "No" a majority vote, and it was by quite a bit. Only 35% of them think it's tougher to be a woman. Voters cited scholarships, maternity leave, the draft, and custody battles as a few reasons why men can also have it rough.

Teens Say It's Tough to Be a Woman

Age wasn't as significant as gender, but there was certainly a correlation. Teens, on average, were about 20% more likely than older respondents to claim it's still tougher to be a women, though it fluctuated a bit. Maybe it's a matter of perspective. For older voters, it might be that women seem to have it easier relative to the past.

Money Doesn't Discriminate

One reason some feel women still have it rough is that they typically make less than men. Based on the income demographic, people who make more more than $50,000 are more likely to say that men and women have a fair shake. It could be that there are more men making over $50,000, or it could be that women who make over $50,000 don't feel as much pressure.

If you'd like to vote on this question, dig deeper into the demographics, or engage in existing discussion about the topic, visit the original poll about being a woman. We'd love to hear from you!
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  • saturdayschild 2012/07/17 22:37:56
    saturdayschild
    +13
    Many think it's harder to be a woman because the politically correct thing is to think all burdens rest on females, but women are more intelligent, men are bad, women are good, and the list goes on.

    I noticed many Sodahead males readily agree that women are more intelligent and men get all the lucky breaks. What a crock! I cannot fathom why so many of us think that women have no advantages. They want to be our equals, but I still feel the pressure of thinking it's "ladies first." To hell with that! Saying "ladies first" is saying that women are superior. There is absolutely no reason why we should continue the practice of ladies first.

    BTW: When my uncle was a boy in the Sixties, he said that boys would get physically punished for the slightest thing. Girls were always respected, and nobody ever, ever thought of physically punishing a female. A male gym teacher humiliated boys and flirted with girls. Many other male teachers followed suit. So girls had it harder???

    Western women have become self-righteous, narcissistic, bitches who often have no respect for males. No woman gets my respect until I see that it's going to be reciprocated.

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  • saturda... HipJipC 2012/07/29 01:02:39
    saturdayschild
    +1
    There's the Violence Against Women Act that's popular with politicians, for example. This is a sexist act because we shouldn't condone any violence, but why focus on violence against women when there is more violence committed against men?
  • HipJipC saturda... 2012/07/29 19:15:46
    HipJipC
    Oh yes, I believe we've had this conversation before. I was stuck on it for a while but ended up agreeing that no group should be left out and that if there is going to be an act against violence it should include ALL. I don't believe that any violence can be exaggerated especially if you are the victim : )
  • Bibliop... saturda... 2012/07/19 22:17:54
    Bibliophilic
    You act as if rape is no big deal. This is disturbing. Ask any rape victim if isn't a big deal. I will not get over cruelty and violence. Who should? It's wrong.



    Women are at a severe disadvantage in many areas of society, but men are usually on a level playing field. You chalk feminism up to propaganda, yet you deny the injustices committed towards women or brush them off. Try to empathize- maybe?



    Teachers actually punish girls severely for being out of line, but it's said that 'boys will be boys' and they're allowed to act wild. I'm done here. I was honest and I think I made my point clear politely and articulately.



    I only made that comment about dating because you sound bitter. I read into your resentment towards women.
  • saturda... Bibliop... 2012/07/21 23:28:54
    saturdayschild
    Rape is a big deal. All violence is a big deal, but since rape is largely only committed against women, we hear the same whining about the subject ad nauseam. The truth is that rape doesn't occur as often as other forms of violence, and many of these forms of violence are more often perpetrated against men. Our culture is more aware of violence against women because it's been inculcated into our minds to protect women and men can take care of themselves, and they can tolerate the violence better than women.

    I disagree that women are at a severe disadvantage. You think otherwise because you only feel female empathy, not realizing the difficulties men face. The injustices against women are no more numerous than those against men. It's you who need to empathize with men, but you're on the correct side-the politically correct side, and if you only knew what I think of political correctness.

    Yes, girls are punished, but not as severely as boys.

    I am not bitter toward women. It seems that when I lash out against these types of things, I'm always accused of that. However, when a woman does the same thing, she get sympathy. That's another injustice men face.
  • HipJipC saturda... 2012/07/27 20:35:41
    HipJipC
    I agree with much that you are saying here. One thing I did notice is that because rape happens mostly to women it seems to carry less weight with the media. Two cases in point that are getting HUGE media attention and I believe it is because the victims were male. The Penn State story and the harsh punishments that will come out of it. The priests and their molesting of boys ... big news and harsh punishments. But you get the recent rape of a girl passed out at a party and was raped by two boys and they photographed it and plastered the pictures online. They get off with a slap on the wrist and she posts their names on Twitter. Now she is facing charges because they were not adults when it happened therefore they are protected. What sort of message does that send out to boys ... it's ok to rape if you do it before you're an adult? I think many male brains are so used to seeing females raped in movies, porn and they seem more desensitized in regards to the raping of females ... but when faced with the fact that a male molests a male they can then put themselves in the shoes of the victims and actually feel more hostile towards the offender and less desensitized to it. This is just my observation.
  • saturda... HipJipC 2012/07/29 01:10:18
    saturdayschild
    I would have to disagree. Rape is taken more seriously than ever. The rape against the males was given so much publicity because the males were boys. I heard plenty of jokes about male rape in prison. I found these jokes to be tasteless. Just because a man is in prison doesn't mean he deserves to be raped, but this type of rape is not taken so seriously.

    Take sexual harassment, for example. All a woman has to do is accuse a man of harassment, and he will most likely get fired, whether or not the allegations can be proven. I was told that it's cheaper for companies to fire an accused male than to investigate the accusations, so the female can get away with lies very easily. All she has to do is not like a guy, and she can make his life a living hell.

    Speaking of lies, look at the accusations against the lacrosse team a few years ago. A stripper accused the team of raping her, and it was proven she was lying. These guys had their names and photos in newspapers across America, and her name was protected, even after it was found out she was a liar.
  • HipJipC saturda... 2012/07/29 19:52:05
    HipJipC
    Her name is Crystal Gale Mangum and she is just plain EVIL. She didn't stop after that, she committed murder.
    http://crime.about.com/od/cur...
    You can not dismiss or shrink the rapes, incest, child molestation, human trafficking of girls and women (fact is most victims are females in all these crimes and most perps are males). This fact in no way diminishes male victims and the fact that they suffer just as much but again most perps are male (just read the news). For every false accusation there are thousands of true ones. Also, I'm sure that those like me who have experienced incest and/or rape never turned in their perp(s). So you have many abusers, female and male, walking around free who got away with it.
    I think people joke around about criminals getting raped in jail because it releases some sort of justice or punishment upon the criminal. I see this especially when it is done to someone who hurt or killed a child. But I also think that this type of trauma could actually make a "softer" criminal into a "harder" one.
    So do you think it's ok for our justice system to protect rapists who are not yet adults? Do you think the sex offender registry takes things too far especially in regards to statutory rape. I have a friend who lived with his 15 year old girlfriend and her mother...
    Her name is Crystal Gale Mangum and she is just plain EVIL. She didn't stop after that, she committed murder.
    http://crime.about.com/od/cur...
    You can not dismiss or shrink the rapes, incest, child molestation, human trafficking of girls and women (fact is most victims are females in all these crimes and most perps are males). This fact in no way diminishes male victims and the fact that they suffer just as much but again most perps are male (just read the news). For every false accusation there are thousands of true ones. Also, I'm sure that those like me who have experienced incest and/or rape never turned in their perp(s). So you have many abusers, female and male, walking around free who got away with it.
    I think people joke around about criminals getting raped in jail because it releases some sort of justice or punishment upon the criminal. I see this especially when it is done to someone who hurt or killed a child. But I also think that this type of trauma could actually make a "softer" criminal into a "harder" one.
    So do you think it's ok for our justice system to protect rapists who are not yet adults? Do you think the sex offender registry takes things too far especially in regards to statutory rape. I have a friend who lived with his 15 year old girlfriend and her mother for 2 years (he was 18 at the time). When he broke up with the girl and moved out and was no longer giving the mother money that bitch took him to court for statutory rape. She allowed the relationship so I don't know how this was even allowed. Now he's on the sex offender registry for the rest of his life. That is complete and utter B.S.!!! I've tried unsuccessfully to get him to try to overturn the ruling. He's had nothing but a 1/2 of a life because of this sh*t! Sorry, just venting : )
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  • Aly Hart saturda... 2012/07/18 02:56:03 (edited)
  • Mack saturda... 2012/07/19 00:56:24
    Mack
    You hit the nail on the head. I especially like your last 2 sentences. Very true!
  • saturda... Mack 2012/07/21 23:29:55
    saturdayschild
    +1
    Thanks!
  • Christi... saturda... 2012/07/19 05:38:27
    Christine Leo
    +3
    The gym teacher flirted with the girls! And you think that's all nice and fun? What kind of twisted fool are you?

    Do you have any idea how creepy and disgusting it is for a teen girl to get flirted with by a teacher? Especially if the teacher is over 25 years old? Over 25 is an old man to a 16 year old girl. By the way, that teacher flirting with the girls is now considered inappropriate and is grounds for being fired nowadays. Thank God.

    What kinda PERV mind do you have if you think it's ok for a teacher to flirt with female student? WTF? You really think teen girls enjoy teachers flirting with by them? Hell NO! It's makes girls feel dirty and gross.

    You have just showed your true colors. You got a PERV mindset and have no clue about sexual harassment or in appropriate male behavior toward teen girls.

    You will never get respect from any woman I promise you that. That's probably why you think it's cool for grown men to flirt with teen girls. Because you probably do it too.
  • GLaDOS Christi... 2012/07/19 21:26:40
    GLaDOS
    No kidding. He acts like sexual harassment just because of your sex is somehow not nearly as bad as punishment for it. I surely would've taken a whooping in lieu of being flirted with by a nasty old man. STILL would.
  • saturda... Christi... 2012/07/21 23:37:22
    saturdayschild
    Maybe you don't like being flirted with, but most girls like being flirted with. The kind of flirting was not really sexual harassment, but uptight, sexually frustrated women like you find anything to be harassment. Being sexually suggestive and inappropriate touching would be considered sexual harassment, but not coyness.

    You jump to conclusions so quickly that it seems like a form of neurosis. Chick, chill out!
  • GLaDOS saturda... 2012/07/19 21:24:51
    GLaDOS
    And just think, a hundred years ago, plus, there were no "custody" battles. Children were simply given to the father. I'd say hundreds of years trumps a few decades.

    Angry male is angry. There is nothing wrong with being a gentleman to a lady, however, I can see that you, sir, are no gentleman. No wonder women are self-righteous, narcissistic, bitches; the only use many men have for them is what's in their pants.
  • ahumble... GLaDOS 2012/07/20 22:43:51
    ahumblevoter
    +2
    I like the way each of the arguments made here are directed towards 1 specific point. Like joe said that rape was less of a problem than murder and assult, and was then accused of saying that rape was not a big issue. This is all pretty pathetic people. Men and women are different and shouldnt be treated the same. I personally believe that they are both treated with the same level of respect, but it different ways. There a good and bad things about being a man, the same as a woman.
  • GLaDOS ahumble... 2012/07/21 01:59:46
    GLaDOS
    They should be treated with the same level of respect, but differently. I quite agree.
  • saturda... GLaDOS 2012/07/21 23:46:46
    saturdayschild
    Divorce was very, very uncommon one hundred years ago, and it was considered a disgrace.

    Labeling someone as an angry male suggests something negative. Labeling someone as an angry female suggests that she was wronged by a male, and she gets plenty of moral support to build a hatred. You're a typical feminist with double standards.

    There is nothing wrong with being a gentleman to a lady? Oh, we're supposed to wine, dine, and fawn all over them, huh? That part of male-female tradition should be kept because it's okay for the male to be subservient to the female. Double standards again.

    Self-righteous, narcissistic bitches are usually attractive enough that men will kowtow to them for attention. These men would be smart if they didn't kowtow, but feigned disinterest. These bitches will then try to get the attention of any male who shows disinterest because they feel that every man should notice them. This gives the man the upper hand who will get what he wants more often. I'm the voice of experience.

    Self-righteous, but non-narcissistic women are not as attractive, but are often jealous of the more attractive women. They are bitter in various degrees, and don't know how to be attractive to men. This leaves them frustrated and angry. You're probably in this category.
  • GLaDOS saturda... 2012/07/22 15:40:25 (edited)
    GLaDOS
    Actually, I'm not a feminist, thank you! Don't lump me in with them. So, there is your number one mistake. Double standards? Men and women are different, so they should be treated respectfully, but differently.

    And yes, you come across as merely an angry male, one of whom probably is probably as bitter as the women he accuses of such, so it's a bit hypocritical. Such persons don't know how to be attractive to women, either. If I am unattractive to you, then I'm afraid I must be grateful for what I am, for I am quite pleasing to that rare type of men who matter.

    In my opinion, there are males, men, and gentlemen, and as you are simply an angry male, I desire nothing to do with you, short of being contrary to your opinion.
  • saturda... GLaDOS 2012/07/22 19:53:22
    saturdayschild
    You may not claim to be a feminist, but I'm sure you are supportive of many of their values.

    I may come across as an angry male to you, but I express my views and negative feelings about certain things with others, but I live a contented life without obsessing with what I find wrong in this world. I may have gripes about feminism and such, but I don't let it consume my everyday, contented life, so it looks like you're mistaken yourself.

    You have nothing to do with me? You don't know me and will probably never meet me. So do I care?
  • GLaDOS saturda... 2012/07/22 20:16:58
    GLaDOS
    Votes for women? Yes. That makes me a suffragist.
    The ability to be paid for equal work? Well, provided that their work really is "equal," of course.
    Men whistling at me whenever I walk somewhere? I am flattered.
    Shirts that say, "Boys are stupid, throw rocks at them?" Disgust me.
    I'm not a "feminist" simply due to everything they have come to represent.

    I do, however, believe that I have the right not to be beaten just because I burnt a meal, accidentally. I also believe that women should be able to hold any job that they can perform competently, the same as a man. I have the right not to be raped simply because I may not be in the mood, but my husband may be.

    However, if these are some of the "feminist" ideals you're referring to, and believe that a husband should have every right to beat his wife if she makes a mistake, or the right to rape his wife, should he be in the mood, but she "has a headache." Well, that is disgusting as well.

    Do I believe a male should strive to be a gentleman? Of course.
    Do I believe a female should strive not only to be a woman, but to be a lady? Certainly!
    However, just as the original Girl Scouts from the turn of the century did, that doesn't mean that we should be inept at protecting ourselves, dumb, or unable to care for ourselves in the...

    Votes for women? Yes. That makes me a suffragist.
    The ability to be paid for equal work? Well, provided that their work really is "equal," of course.
    Men whistling at me whenever I walk somewhere? I am flattered.
    Shirts that say, "Boys are stupid, throw rocks at them?" Disgust me.
    I'm not a "feminist" simply due to everything they have come to represent.

    I do, however, believe that I have the right not to be beaten just because I burnt a meal, accidentally. I also believe that women should be able to hold any job that they can perform competently, the same as a man. I have the right not to be raped simply because I may not be in the mood, but my husband may be.

    However, if these are some of the "feminist" ideals you're referring to, and believe that a husband should have every right to beat his wife if she makes a mistake, or the right to rape his wife, should he be in the mood, but she "has a headache." Well, that is disgusting as well.

    Do I believe a male should strive to be a gentleman? Of course.
    Do I believe a female should strive not only to be a woman, but to be a lady? Certainly!
    However, just as the original Girl Scouts from the turn of the century did, that doesn't mean that we should be inept at protecting ourselves, dumb, or unable to care for ourselves in the wild, should we need to. Being a lady, however, also means being able to graciously accept help when it is offered. But, as you are not a gentleman, as evinced by your responses here, I suppose you would not know that.

    Whether you care or not is of no consequence to me, I simply made my utter distaste for males, such as you, evident. Good day.
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  • saturda... GLaDOS 2012/07/22 22:28:39
    saturdayschild
    Actually, I cannot disagree with most of what you just posted. I respect women like you, but most women are not like you. The current social climate is anti-male, so I may come across as angry, but I'm not. I just like to stir up food for thought. If it's contrary to current political correctness, I get a lot of flack from those who disagree with me. I really think you and I would enjoy healthy debates, respecting one another at the same time, believe it or not.
  • diarslade GLaDOS 2012/07/22 19:54:09
    diarslade
    I think you're quite easy on the eyes. The dude above is just a douche. Any man that can throw around insults about women, and such sweeping generalizations about them doesn't even deserve the title of "Man" even with "Angry" in front of it. Just a boy with a bad attitude, and horrible manners.
  • GLaDOS diarslade 2012/07/22 20:18:42
    GLaDOS
    Thank you, darling, I am flattered. Though, I must admit that I'm amused by the colloquialisms you've used. I quite agree, regarding your belief that they don't deserve the title of "man," which is why I referred to him as an "angry male."
  • diarslade GLaDOS 2012/07/22 20:25:33
    diarslade
    *chuckles* It comes naturally.
  • saturda... diarslade 2012/07/29 01:15:33
    saturdayschild
    Douche is such a trite, idiotic word. I'll have you know that I only insult women who deserve it, and what makes women more deserving of not being insulted than a man? When men are insulted, nobody comes to a man's defense. I'm trying to point out the double standards placed on men that have occurred over the past few decades.

    Whenever I do this, I'm accused of being an "angry male" or a "boy with a bad attitude."

    Who made you such an authority on what it takes to be a man, Bub?
  • diarslade saturda... 2012/07/29 02:26:25
    diarslade
    People come to men's defense all the time. GLaDOS is one of those people I'll have you know. You won't find a woman more defensive of men than she is. Anyway you come off as an angry male...because you use sweeping generalizations, and than you threw around accusations like candy.

    You get accused of it because by all accounts you are. In a private setting between you and someone else...feel free to call a woman you know personally (maybe a boss, an ex-girlfriend that cheated on you etc) as a bitch. You don't do it in public, and don't do it on the internet. Fine you may not actually be an angry male, but you certainly are not a gentlemen. (That said, the types of women you're talking about are not "ladies" either)

    Yes there is a double standard, no you shouldn't just suck it up. There are however more effective ways of dealing with it, standing up to it, than doing the exact same thing those types of women do.

    I simply do not understand this judgement of the sexes when it comes between men and women. Who has it easier, who's smarter, who gets paid more, blah, blah, blah. Men and women complement each other, both should strive to be a Gentlemen or Lady respectively...not resort to such pettiness. You ask me what makes me an authority on what it takes to be a man. Nothing I suppose, it's all opinion in the end, but that doesn't mean I'm wrong.
  • saturda... diarslade 2012/08/03 01:29:34
    saturdayschild
    So what if I come across as an angry male? Whether or not I'm angry, it doesn't mean anything about making good points. There could be a reason behind my supposed anger. What sweeping generalizations am I making? I am a gentleman only to ladies. Anyway, like Glados, I think that in spite of our caustic communication, I think we would agree on a number of things.
  • rockyjr5 2012/07/17 22:26:22
    rockyjr5
    +1
    The problem is that the media looks at women like they're weak, , expects them to worry about what others thinks about them, wants them to not do the things that men does because they are girls. The media also lives in the past, and since most people worships the media so much, and kisses the media's butts all the time, that's why most people give that much attention to women, and the most men don't treat women with respect.
  • FanOreilly 2012/07/17 22:16:59
    FanOreilly
    Man up
  • sandra.hemmes 2012/07/17 22:15:46
    sandra.hemmes
    +1
    Why I think it is harder to be a woman. 1. Men play with a different set of rules; first of all men think everything is a toy, or should be. 2. Women think with a broader scope, and multi-task their lives, family, husbands or partners, their looks, their diets, their shopping for food and clothes, how they look at work, or how she looks at home, is she appealing to her partner, and if not, guys tend to wander off to a new toy. It is all crao,
  • Merhabi... sandra.... 2012/07/18 17:32:19
  • D.C.Ver... Merhabi... 2012/07/18 19:14:01
    D.C.Verdone
    hostile much XD
  • Mack D.C.Ver... 2012/07/19 01:01:45
    Mack
    +1
    No. He's telling Sandra exactly how it is!
  • D.C.Ver... Mack 2012/07/19 13:47:06
    D.C.Verdone
    Whatever you say hun. Whether he is telling how it is or not it is still hostile XD XD
  • Mack Merhabi... 2012/07/19 01:01:53
    Mack
    +1
    Spot on!
  • saturda... Merhabi... 2012/07/29 01:19:28
    saturdayschild
    Political correctness has messed up her brain. Today's society thinks that females are perfect, males are bad in every way possible, and putting females on a pedestal while stepping on a man's head is all good for society.
  • skyebrand 2012/07/17 22:12:51
    skyebrand
    +5
    I used to think that we had become a far more equal society, until I had children. When I started talking about going back to work to resume my career I was criticised for supposedly putting my career ahead of my children. In the end my husband & I decided that me returning to work wasn't going to be financially advantageous so I remained at home with the children. Now I am criticised for conforming to an archaic stereotype of women & putting feminism back a century!

    No one ever asked my husband why he was a working father & gave him a disapproving look!
  • JCLadybug skyebrand 2012/07/18 02:25:17
    JCLadybug
    I had no intention of staying at home, but I do get that conversation quite often. Ironically, never at my work....apparently PhD programs are less sexist (even with the gender gap present due to individual interests).
  • sockpuppet 2012/07/17 22:05:48
    sockpuppet
    I think it's physiologically more demanding (and demeaning) to be female. Sure wouldn't want to put up with sexual harassment or the myriad problems that come with limited physical strength.

    As far as wages and opportunities go, it seems to be a series of trade-offs. Women in some fields are definitely not up to the job, and the whole issue of maternal privileges comes into play. All the talk about "equality" stops where special provisions are made, but half the country fails to see the double standard as anything but 'equality'.

    On the other hand, they tend to be smart and more diplomatic in various positions, so... more really depends on the job than the applicant.

    In every way, I'm glad I'm not a woman.
  • Merhabi... sockpuppet 2012/07/18 17:36:47

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