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Pro life or pro choice?

~1seahawksfan~ 2009/05/18 05:22:07
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With all the talk about it lately, I am curious. I am pro life and always will be but judge not so it is not my place to say what another should do or if they are right or wrong to feel that way.
Absolutely no fighting here. We can debate maturely!!
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  • Fanghur 2013/02/08 21:24:21
    Pro choice
    Fanghur
    While I may not necessarily believe that abortion is always moral, what it ultimately comes down to is, at ABSOLUTE best, is that the rights of a grown woman who already has a life and a growing ball of cells which is not self-aware, intelligent or even sentient are in direct conflict. The woman's rights trump that of the fetus.
  • Spring 2009/08/27 03:45:53
    Pro choice
    Spring
    +1
    pro life... of the mother.

    make abortions illegal and women die trying to get them. i dont like them but under certain conditions i would get them. mainly if medically necessary or due to rape or incest.

    i am currently on coumadin and if i were to get pregnant in the next 6 months my baby would have birth defects so i would have to decide weather or not to go through with the pregnancy.
    incest coumadin pregnant 6 baby birth defects decide weather pregnancy
  • Sleeper 2009/07/01 01:50:00
    Pro life
    Sleeper
    +2
    From conception to death, if you know what I mean. I like to see people fully experience quality of life. I am totally against abortion, except in rare cases.
  • danimal07 2009/06/10 01:56:29
    Pro choice
    danimal07
    +2
    pro choice all the way.
  • Chiliayo 2009/06/01 21:04:19
    Pro choice
    Chiliayo
    +1
    I notice we're not hearing so much from the screaming Bible thumpers now that one of their own shot a doctor in front of his family--in church, no less. This is what your right wing extremism breeds...the murder of a man in church. And I'm sure the cockroach that did thinks he did the Lord's work. Self righteous terrorist pricks.
  • ~1seaha... Chiliayo 2009/06/03 16:11:24
    ~1seahawksfan~
    +2
    I assure you, the extremists you speak of are the minority and there is just as much terrorism on the left, just different reasons!
  • Amanda †In God We Trust† 2009/05/31 11:56:59
    Pro life
    Amanda †In God We Trust†
    +1
    I think that the ONLY REASON anyone should be allowed to have an abortion is being raped or molested, and even that isn't a good way. They need to find a way to take the baby out of the mother without killing him/her, and keeping the baby alive and growing until he/she needs to be born. Then they should ONLY use that for rape victims.

    mother killing himher baby alive growing heshe born rape victims
  • Kricket Chiffon 2009/05/30 03:09:57
    Pro choice
    Kricket Chiffon
    +1
    Just an opinion...
  • mem2 2009/05/28 20:02:10
    Pro choice
    mem2
    test
  • Sci-Fi Gal 2009/05/26 02:46:03 (edited)
    Pro life
    Sci-Fi Gal
    +1
    u got ur self into this! u still have 2 have the baby, u can give it 2 an orphanage even if ur molested u can still give the baby away!
  • kyliegi... Sci-Fi Gal 2009/05/26 15:11:28
    kyliegirl1993
    +1
    If your molested you should have the choice becasue why would you want to remember what happend to you everyday!
  • Jackie kyliegi... 2009/07/01 13:18:10
    Jackie
    Trust me... you remeber your molested even if you do not get pregnant! It's something you live with for the rest of your life. You just have to find a way to deal with it and not let it effect the relationships you currently have. And that is hard!
  • kyliegi... Jackie 2009/07/04 16:59:05
    kyliegirl1993
    Yeah i know that its hard. but why should she have only one option we are all diffrent and we should not be forced to do the same thing if we dont want to!
  • cy 2009/05/23 23:55:05 (edited)
    Pro life
    cy
    +2
    i don't think that there is any good reason to kill and in the case of rape u can put the baby up for adoption only if the mother is at risk of dying is there any reason to consider such a thing
  • andave 2009/05/23 00:38:41
    Pro life
    andave
    +4
    Here's what I don't understand: you kill a one-day old baby, you're put in prison. You kill a pregnant woman, you're put into prison for killing two people. And yet, babies are aborted anytime before birth.

    I am for LIFE. Imagine the potential of each little life that is being squashed...what they could have done, who they could have been...

    Nothing shouts out "bad choice" like pro choice.
  • Chiliayo andave 2009/06/01 21:00:11
    Chiliayo
    ",.. babies are aborted anytime before birth."? Really? You better get your facts straight. BTW, choice is choice. If you don't want an abortion, don't get one.
  • andave Chiliayo 2009/06/01 21:25:39
    andave
    ...a late term abortionist was just murdered?
  • pocolala 2009/05/22 16:25:45
    Pro choice
    pocolala
    +1
    Pro Choice is what I answered but that does not mean I would have an abortion and it doesn't mean I want to pay for anyone else having one. It does mean medical personnel should be allowed to choose if they will participate in an abortion procedure and of course women would be free to choose.

    There are many views as to when a fetus is concidered a human being and they range from moment of conception to the moment they take their first breath of air. This is not for a man on earth to determine, in my opinion.
  • carri byers 2009/05/22 15:37:15 (edited)
    Pro life
    carri byers
    +3
    At the time your father's sperm met your mother's ova you became a closed system: no further information was added to your being, the genes that gave you your nose, your eyes, every feature you own, was inside that microscopic entity. No more instructions were given to the mechinisms within that amazing structure, every necessary i was dotted and all the t's were crossed. Only time was necessary for you as a microscopic entity to grow into a fully developed human.

    You can argue viability all you want; the fact is at conception you were you. When an abortion takes place, a unique, irreplacable human being is destroyed. There will never be another like him/her created.

    When you say one is only valuable and human when one is no longer dependent on another for it's life, then you sentence all parapalegics and severely mentally handicapped beings to death. When you say only fully developed babies have rights to protection, then the 22 week old baby that was born viable and living should be anialated. To say that only those who can breath on their own and pump their own blood are valuable enough to allow to live, then those who depend on iron lungs and artificial hearts should have been allowed to die.

    When you marginalize life, you take the path of death.

    Unfortunately, that is...'
    At the time your father's sperm met your mother's ova you became a closed system: no further information was added to your being, the genes that gave you your nose, your eyes, every feature you own, was inside that microscopic entity. No more instructions were given to the mechinisms within that amazing structure, every necessary i was dotted and all the t's were crossed. Only time was necessary for you as a microscopic entity to grow into a fully developed human.

    You can argue viability all you want; the fact is at conception you were you. When an abortion takes place, a unique, irreplacable human being is destroyed. There will never be another like him/her created.

    When you say one is only valuable and human when one is no longer dependent on another for it's life, then you sentence all parapalegics and severely mentally handicapped beings to death. When you say only fully developed babies have rights to protection, then the 22 week old baby that was born viable and living should be anialated. To say that only those who can breath on their own and pump their own blood are valuable enough to allow to live, then those who depend on iron lungs and artificial hearts should have been allowed to die.

    When you marginalize life, you take the path of death.

    Unfortunately, that is the path our society seems to be taking. Dignity now is more important than life. The elderly and terminally ill are now faced with the horrific choice of continuing to be a burden to their families or doing them the favor of dieing. When we as a society declared open season on the most innocent and vulnerable among us we started down the slippery, nasty slope of death instead of life. Abortion is murder. It's that simple.
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  • BystroffC carri b... 2009/05/22 16:43:29
    BystroffC
    There is more to it than "you were you". We need to save space on the planet for other species, and for land to grow food. We need to find a set of ethics that allows us to control our explosive population growth. These are the choices:
    (1) have fewer babies, using contraception and if necessary, abortion
    (2) have more deaths, using war, disease and starvation.
    Which do you choose?
  • carri b... BystroffC 2009/05/29 23:47:36
    carri byers
    Then it would have been alright with you if your mother had aborted you to make room for an otter? Do you have children? Would you be willing to allow one of them to be killed so as to assure the survival of an ape? There are ways we as human can problem solve (because we have a brain patterned after God's) and come up with solutions to the problems you listed without always turning to the death of innocent or vulnerable human as the answer. Death is never the answer.
  • Chiliayo carri b... 2009/06/01 21:01:36
    Chiliayo
    What kind of a nutty reply is that? Gangway for more right wing fake logic!
  • carri b... Chiliayo 2009/12/23 19:22:16
    carri byers
    +1
    Huh?!? How is it nutty? BystroffC says we must accept abortion as a means of assuring there is room for other species. My answer to that was the killing of innocence is never an answer to a problem that has many other viable options. If all you want is to strike out with name calling and marginalizing those with whom you disagree, you add very little to the debate.
  • BystroffC carri b... 2009/07/11 18:26:40
    BystroffC
    Is is better just to pretend the problem isn't there? Maybe if we are very quiet it will just go away... No. And saying "you go first" is not the answer either -- kind of like killing the messenger when you don't like the message.
  • carri b... BystroffC 2009/12/23 19:26:23
    carri byers
    +1
    Killing innocents is not the answer, I don't care what the question is. You environmentalist have interesting priorities.
  • Old Guy BystroffC 2009/06/16 04:25:50
    Old Guy
    best way for that is to keep it in your pants
  • TheRichZone 2009/05/22 15:23:54
    Pro life
    TheRichZone
    +2
    Legalized baby killing should be stopped
  • BystroffC TheRich... 2009/05/22 16:45:11
    BystroffC
    +2
    Your little icon -- I love global warming -- says it all. Clearly you think it must be a joke.
  • TheRich... BystroffC 2009/05/22 18:40:18
    TheRichZone
    +1
    I really do like warm weather and I think those easily mislead "useful idiots" are the big joke. http://www.mlive.com/opinion/...

    Here’s some statements from some holocaust denying, flat earthers who inconveniently happen to be world famous climatologists

    “I am a skeptic…Global warming has become a new religion.” - Nobel Prize Winner for Physics, Ivar Giaever.

    Warming fears are the “worst scientific scandal in the history…When people come to know what the truth is, they will feel deceived by science and scientists.” - UN IPCC Japanese Scientist Dr. Kiminori Itoh, an award-winning PhD environmental physical chemist.

    “Since I am no longer affiliated with any organization nor receiving any funding, I can speak quite frankly….As a scientist I remain skeptical.” - Atmospheric Scientist Dr. Joanne Simpson, the first woman in the world to receive a PhD in meteorology and formerly of NASA who has authored more than 190 studies and has been called “among the most preeminent scientists of the last 100 years.”

    “The IPCC has actually become a closed circuit; it doesn’t listen to others. It doesn’t have open minds… I am really amazed that the Nobel Peace Prize has been given on scientifically incorrect conclusions by people who are not geologists,” - Indian geologist Dr. Arun D. Ahluwalia a...

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    I really do like warm weather and I think those easily mislead "useful idiots" are the big joke. http://www.mlive.com/opinion/...

    Here’s some statements from some holocaust denying, flat earthers who inconveniently happen to be world famous climatologists

    “I am a skeptic…Global warming has become a new religion.” - Nobel Prize Winner for Physics, Ivar Giaever.

    Warming fears are the “worst scientific scandal in the history…When people come to know what the truth is, they will feel deceived by science and scientists.” - UN IPCC Japanese Scientist Dr. Kiminori Itoh, an award-winning PhD environmental physical chemist.

    “Since I am no longer affiliated with any organization nor receiving any funding, I can speak quite frankly….As a scientist I remain skeptical.” - Atmospheric Scientist Dr. Joanne Simpson, the first woman in the world to receive a PhD in meteorology and formerly of NASA who has authored more than 190 studies and has been called “among the most preeminent scientists of the last 100 years.”

    “The IPCC has actually become a closed circuit; it doesn’t listen to others. It doesn’t have open minds… I am really amazed that the Nobel Peace Prize has been given on scientifically incorrect conclusions by people who are not geologists,” - Indian geologist Dr. Arun D. Ahluwalia at Punjab University and a board member of the UN-supported International Year of the Planet.

    “The models and forecasts of the UN IPCC "are incorrect because they only are based on mathematical models and presented results at scenarios that do not include, for example, solar activity.” - Victor Manuel Velasco Herrera, a researcher at the Institute of Geophysics of the National Autonomous University of Mexico

    “It is a blatant lie put forth in the media that makes it seem there is only a fringe of scientists who don’t buy into anthropogenic global warming.” - U.S Government Atmospheric Scientist Stanley B. Goldenberg of the Hurricane Research Division of NOAA.

    “Even doubling or tripling the amount of carbon dioxide will virtually have little impact, as water vapour and water condensed on particles as clouds dominate the worldwide scene and always will.” – . Geoffrey G. Duffy, a professor in the Department of Chemical and Materials Engineering of the University of Auckland, NZ.

    “After reading [UN IPCC chairman] Pachauri's asinine comment [comparing skeptics to] Flat Earthers, it's hard to remain quiet.” - Climate statistician Dr. William M. Briggs, who specializes in the statistics of forecast evaluation, serves on the American Meteorological Society's Probability and Statistics Committee and is an Associate Editor of Monthly Weather Review.

    “For how many years must the planet cool before we begin to understand that the planet is not warming? For how many years must cooling go on?" - Geologist Dr. David Gee the chairman of the science committee of the 2008 International Geological Congress who has authored 130 plus peer reviewed papers, and is currently at Uppsala University in Sweden.

    “Gore prompted me to start delving into the science again and I quickly found myself solidly in the skeptic camp…Climate models can at best be useful for explaining climate changes after the fact.” - Meteorologist Hajo Smit of Holland, who reversed his belief in man-made warming to become a skeptic, is a former member of the Dutch UN IPCC committee.

    “Many [scientists] are now searching for a way to back out quietly (from promoting warming fears), without having their professional careers ruined.” - Atmospheric physicist James A. Peden, formerly of the Space Research and Coordination Center in Pittsburgh.

    “Creating an ideology pegged to carbon dioxide is a dangerous nonsense…The present alarm on climate change is an instrument of social control, a pretext for major businesses and political battle. It became an ideology, which is concerning.” - Environmental Scientist Professor Delgado Domingos of Portugal, the founder of the Numerical Weather Forecast group, has more than 150 published articles.

    “CO2 emissions make absolutely no difference one way or another….Every scientist knows this, but it doesn’t pay to say so…Global warming, as a political vehicle, keeps Europeans in the driver’s seat and developing nations walking barefoot.” - Dr. Takeda Kunihiko, vice-chancellor of the Institute of Science and Technology Research at Chubu University in Japan.

    “The [global warming] scaremongering has its justification in the fact that it is something that generates funds.” - Award-winning Paleontologist Dr. Eduardo Tonni, of the Committee for Scientific Research in Buenos Aires and head of the Paleontology Department at the University of La Plata. # #
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  • BystroffC TheRich... 2009/07/11 18:33:45
    BystroffC
    Please keep it short. Long posts like this stiffle dialog.
    Let's see, where to begin. Shall I admit I'm an award winning scientist too? Before I listen to the nay-sayers I want them to explain the raw data showing dramatic CO2 and temperature increases over the last 100 years. Is it a big hoax? Is that what you claim?
  • Sodahead's Boring. 2009/05/22 13:14:25
    Pro life
    Sodahead's Boring.
    +3
    A person is a person, no matter how small. Just like NObamaGirl and Dr. Suess said.

    And women can choose what they want to do... just like they can when the kid is three, and throwing tantrums.

    It's murder either way, and it should be treated as such.
  • HI-DE 2009/05/22 05:53:28
    Pro life
    HI-DE
    +2
    WOOT WOOT!
  • Lulu 2009/05/22 05:48:24
    Pro choice
    Lulu
    +2
    I believe that a woman should have the right to choose in her own terms.I dont think any individual should force there opinions on anyone else.I personally never have had an abortion and i never will but i would never force anyone to believe in what i believe in.However something i totally do not agree with is women who abuse their rights to an abortion.There are some woman who are constantly careless and its almost as if they use abortion as a form of birth control.
  • Andrea Lulu 2009/05/22 13:47:16
    Andrea
    +1
    It is ironic that you feel that way. Luckily for YOU, your mama felt differently.
  • Chiliayo Andrea 2009/05/22 15:26:35
    Chiliayo
    +1
    You are so right. I was reading the same thing in Catholic Fascist Magazine the other day. Oh, and you really don't know what the word "ironic" means, do you?
  • Andrea Chiliayo 2009/05/22 15:37:42
    Andrea
    +1
    Perhaps ironic was the wrong word. But I am not a fascist or fanatic. I just think that murdering unborn children is wrong. I will never change my mind.
  • Lulu Andrea 2009/05/23 02:50:01
    Lulu
    +1
    I dont understand your comment.I stated i am pro choice i just dont think it should be used as a means of birth control.Never should a woman have those rights taken from her.Under extreme cases for instance god forbid i am rape i would consider abortion.
    I am all for a womens right to choose.so please explain to me your comment as i just dont understand it.Maybe you replied to me by accident?
  • Andrea Lulu 2009/05/23 06:35:26
    Andrea
    No, but since you have clarified your view I see your point. You said this first "I believe that a woman should have the right to choose in her own terms". That is where my comment came from. Your clarification explains your view better. Thank you.
  • christina 2009/05/22 05:28:17
    Pro choice
    christina
    +3
    i believe that every woman has a choice a choice when she lays down and makes that baby and a choice when she decides if she is goin to have her baby i beleive that its your choice
  • Sydney 2009/05/22 05:24:32
    Pro choice
    Sydney
    +4
    I don't have the right to tell someone what to do.
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