The Christians are within their individual rights to vocally disagree and to disrupt the Gays planned celebratory parade with their moral views. However, it is also very disrespectful and rude from a civil standpoint, and if Christian's are going to act pushy and rude about voicing their own views, they really shouldn't scream too loudly or be to shocked when gays strike back by do something equally rude and disruptive such as flash mobbing their own PUBLIC religious services, etc, etc.
What's good for the goose is good for the gander ...just Saying.
Preaching at Gay Pride Parade. Was it Wrong?
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A Christian street preacher is interrupted gay supporters during the Pride 2012 celebration. Was the Christian wrong or were the pride supporters overreacting?
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U-Dog 2012/07/03 23:34:50
And that's it, in a nutshell with ANY of the designated Marxist 'socially protected and deitized' minorities. Progressives will tolerate nothing when it comes to opposing points of view. The left wing has no grounds to stand on when it comes to societal bully-boy tactics in the advancement of their agendas. Their behaviour is too well documented for that.
Why are liberals so violent?
And the Bible says "Judge not, lest ye be judged." Biblically, that is to "judge" a man's heart. But in the same book, same chapter we are told to "know a person by their fruit." Don't try to change the meaning of the scripture to fit your lifestyle. If you believe in the scripture, abide by it - if you don't really believe it, don't try to use it to justify your behavior.
"And the Universal Platypus sayeth unto the dumbasses:
Be as to yourselves true, but shut the f-ck up about it. Neither of you are special and are Hoomans first, respect and manners show better of your character than squabbling like piglets for the media's nipple. Now grow up lest you realize the pain of how damn silly thee appeareth to the world."
BOTH sides need to grow up, shut-up, live-and-let-live and act with some freaking dignity.
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I prefer civility, where conservatives and liberals, or whoever, can separately have their own speaking events and advocate what they politically/morally support.
But when gays/liberals repeatedly harass those they disagree with politically, and even try to silence them, Christians and other conservatives have absolutely every right to reciprocate and give gays a taste of their own medicine.
Christians/conservatives shouldn't be expected to just shut up and take it while while vile and uncivil leftists trample on their civil rights.
This Christian Protester is standing in Salem Massachuetts a Very Big Pagan Wiccan community during Halloween or as we call it Samhain it is a very speical holy holiday to us and this guy is preaching and protesting while standing in the middle of a Pagan Community right in front of Pagan Shops
Response of a Salem Resident
Orange is the Leader
To conflate Westboro with any other Christian group is a slander of true Christianity.
The Salem protestor in the Youtube clip above is likewise antagonizing, and not interested in trying to appeal in any reasoned way with those he is supposedly trying to convert.
Christ said: "Blessed are the peacemakers..."
Westboro and the Salem guy are not appealing for peace and reason, just grandstanding and getting in others' faces.
I'm a Christian, and their tactics offend me.
The westies offend EVERYBODY, I've noticed.
Which displays their blanket hatred and utter intolerance of the gay crowd toward Christians, not displaying the Christian guy's hatred of gays they tried to allege. Only his microphone allowed his true words to be heard and not drowned out, without which he could have been slandered and misrepresented later to have said anything they conveniently wanted to accuse him of.
I'll agree that Westboro and the Salem guy above are uncivil and antagonistic. But this guy is as polite as he can possibly be, while still making his point. Which is: You have a right to your free speech and beliefs, but I politely stand here and --as asked-- will respectfully make a reasoned case for my own Christian beliefs.
The gays viciously screaming at him reveal themselves to be the true haters. While he remained reasonable, polite and calm.
The gays acted very bad. I am in Las Vegas and every New Years there are preachers on the strip. People just walk on by. They think what a nutter and move on.
He was not. He was throwing nonsensical hate.
And the fact that he's turning hatred over what he's doing into 'hatred of his religion'
It's simple as this: he shouldn't have showed up. At all. They have a point there. Because he knew going into this that his presence would cause problems. Knew it.
He also is twisting much of what is happening around him as discrimination of him or his religion. Only a few instances that happened actually were. The throwing of the cup of whatever at him was. People trying to push and shove to get at him was. But everything else? The police have every right to keep people moving. They have every right to break up a group of people if things appear to be getting violent (which they were). And if he was violating any regulation or law (like the police mentioned - he was blocking the sidewalk) they have a right to make him move.
Am I defending the people at the pride parade? Not really. Because they did over-react a *little*. The problem is, mention was made a number of times to his sign, which is never shown on the video. Nor is the beginning of the altercation - what was he saying to get them over there to begin with? THAT is not on video. So yes, if all he was doing is saying what he'd been saying on the video, it was a bit of an over rea...
And the fact that he's turning hatred over what he's doing into 'hatred of his religion'
It's simple as this: he shouldn't have showed up. At all. They have a point there. Because he knew going into this that his presence would cause problems. Knew it.
He also is twisting much of what is happening around him as discrimination of him or his religion. Only a few instances that happened actually were. The throwing of the cup of whatever at him was. People trying to push and shove to get at him was. But everything else? The police have every right to keep people moving. They have every right to break up a group of people if things appear to be getting violent (which they were). And if he was violating any regulation or law (like the police mentioned - he was blocking the sidewalk) they have a right to make him move.
Am I defending the people at the pride parade? Not really. Because they did over-react a *little*. The problem is, mention was made a number of times to his sign, which is never shown on the video. Nor is the beginning of the altercation - what was he saying to get them over there to begin with? THAT is not on video. So yes, if all he was doing is saying what he'd been saying on the video, it was a bit of an over reaction. BUT - if his sign, or anything else he said prior to the video going up, was more inflammatory than what he was saying ON the video? That might have been an under-reaction.
Since we don't have those two things - video of his sign, or of what happened before the camera was turned on, and people began to gather around him - a judgement call on whether or not it was an actual over-reaction cannot be made.
I go on the assumption that the video was the extent of it, but there may have been more. From what was on the video, I support the Christian guy's free expression.
But If he was more inflammatory in what is not shown, then my take as well would not be as sympathetic toward him.
This young man went to a hostile bunch, who did not value what he had to say and they ate him for breakfast. They certainly trampled his pearls into the mud.