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Panhandler Arrested Making $60,000: Legalize Begging?

Fef 2012/07/23 16:00:00
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Shane Warren Speegle broke the law in Oklahoma City by asking people for money. Soliciting in public requires insurance and a permit. Mr. Speegle told the arresting police officer that he would pay for a $200 permit for the day because begging pays well. How well? Better than a job. Speegle said, "I'm lazy, and I made $60,000 doing this last year. Why would I go get a job?"

Legalizing panhandling would allow people like Mr. Speegle to earn money instead of collect welfare, particularly during this recession. Some people like Mr. Speegle don't know the process or feel "too lazy" to apply for a permit and jump through a city's regulatory process of public solicitation.

On the other hand, legalized begging could increase public nuisance. Legalization could encourage more people to beg on street corners or even go door-to-door in residential neighborhoods. Laws against begging protect the public and other beggars from aggressive, competitive beggars.

KOCO.COM reports:
A man arrested on suspicion of panhandling in Oklahoma City told officers there was no point in getting a job, because he made "$60,000" last year.

arrested suspicion panhandling oklahoma city told officers job 60000 year

Read More: http://www.koco.com/news/oklahomanews/okc/Panhandl...

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  • Nimitz 2012/07/22 04:35:58
    Yes, legalize begging!
    Nimitz
    +19
    Panhandling is a CONSENSUAL transaction between beggar and benefactor. It's none of the government's phucking business.

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  • Monty 2012/07/28 20:16:00
    No, don't legalize it!
    Monty
    no! i hate beggars! except for bukkit dawg! WOOB!
  • V~POTL~PWCM~JLA 2012/07/25 18:04:11
    No, don't legalize it!
    V~POTL~PWCM~JLA
    +1
    It is impossible to legalize begging because there would be no way to regulate it. Are beggars going to set aside 60% of their revenue for income taxes, mandatory health insurance, and double FICA? Really?

    "Legalizing panhandling would allow people like Mr. Speegle to earn money instead of collect welfare..." I'm pretty sure he can beg and collect welfare at the same time, which is probably what he does now.

    If begging is legalized, we are only one step away from beggars setting up shop on the sidewalk in front of businesses, waiting for a bribe from the business owner to go away. At least when that happens today, the cops can limit the areas where beggars operate.

    Business owners beware: Customers generally avoid areas with panhandlers.
  • addie 2012/07/25 17:36:34
    Yes, legalize begging!
    addie
    +2
    Governmental intrusion!
    Anyway, if it is legal, it is taxable income.
  • GINGERBREAD 2012/07/25 17:08:07
    No, don't legalize it!
    GINGERBREAD
    Sure, why don't we just get a license for doing everything? Have a license for going out of your house. Then we'll need a license for walking down the streets, or maybe going to a restaurant for a cup of coffee. Let's license everyone for doing anything and everything. HOW ABOUT THIS SUGGESTION? GET THE GOVERMENT OUT OF OUR LIVES. Let us be the free people that we were once. There was a time when we could set up stores. Didn't need a license for that. There was a time when an immigrant could be a taxi driver, didn't need a license for that either. Who are we protecting with all these "SPECIAL" licenses? The big corporations that are in competition with these "PRIVATE ENTERPRISES". This a collution between BIG GOVERNMENT and BIG BUSINESS. I HAVE A SUGGESTION FOR ALL GOVERNMENTS, WHETHER CITY, COUNTY, STATE OR FEDERAL, LEAVE US THE "F" ALONE.
  • whipnet 2012/07/25 14:39:30
    No, don't legalize it!
    whipnet
    You have a have a permit in Houston. And I've talked to many and they make $200-$300 a day.

    *
  • gocar 2012/07/25 14:16:57
    No, don't legalize it!
    gocar
    +1
    I am thinking now of the Eddy Murphy movie, Trading Places. Smart as a whip and resourceful but begging on the street. No I don't think we should legalize begging. I always carry a few singles with me because I cannot pass without giving something. I always think my conscience is clear and if they are scam artists then shame on them. However, making it completely legal would mean us being swamped with begging and none of us knowing who is really in trouble and who is actually better of than we are.
  • actionjksn 2012/07/25 13:52:08
    Yes, legalize begging!
    actionjksn
    But only in very limited places, and the places where it is legal should be pretty much nonexistent where working people go. So it should be limited to less than 1% of the city. Those people are annoying and they are mostly just scammers. They should only be able to hold a small sign and not be allowed to bother or harass people.And these rules need to be strictly enforced. And these people need to be forced to pay taxes. I know I have to pay them when I make money, so maybe some sort of license is not such a bad idea. I knew a lady who dated and then married one of those guys that stand on the freeway ramp with a sign, and he was making like 3 and 4 hundred bucks a day back in the late 80's. The bleeding hearts don't want to believe this but it's true. This guy in the article is not the anomaly that they want to believe he is. If somebody does not have any money then they are eligible for government assistance. I wouldn't be surprised if only 1 or 2% of them are really who they are representing themselves as. The lady who married the panhandler gave him a home to live in and he would get tired of it and go back to the streets because he said he liked the lifestyle. And he told me he was pretty much the typical panhandler. He was this little weasel looking guy and his name was Rambo of all things.
  • Charlie Sheen 2012/07/25 10:17:48
    No, don't legalize it!
    Charlie Sheen
    Helloooo clariceeeee
  • Sapphire 2012/07/25 10:09:09
    No, don't legalize it!
    Sapphire
    Why is this even a discussion? Poor people have to suffer for their lives and well-being and yet you have these greedy, lazy people mooching off people's sympathy to get money. I can't believe this happens, poor people don't have a home and to see people that does using poor people's way of surviving to their advantage, sicken me. It's sick because this technique is also used in human trafficking, forcing victims to beg on the streets so that the business earns more money. I guess, not a lot of people gives a crap about the poor, right? As long as you are not in that situation, it's not an issue some people should not care about. It's wrong and disgusting....they have to survive, most of us don't so why can't he get up off his lazy butt, get an education, and get a job like the hard working people of society? I really do despise lazy people and freeloaders especially when something like this happens.
  • Tpem 2012/07/25 09:52:35
    Yes, legalize begging!
    Tpem
    Are you kidding me? The city requires a permit and insurance for a person to ask another person for $? If you want to stop panhandling, fine those who give them $. That way the person who needs help gets it and the city can make $ off those that have it to give away. Next thing you know the city will fine a little girl for selling lemonade. Oh wait they already do that too.
  • Derbyhat 2012/07/25 09:11:23
    Yes, legalize begging!
    Derbyhat
    Its already legal! Its called political contributions in the way of soft moneys that allow a few contributors to fund someone's special interest election !
  • Depsycho 2012/07/25 01:15:13
    Yes, legalize begging!
    Depsycho
    +2
    Look beggars are annoying, and even worse than scum if they're not really homeless.

    But to outright BAN begging... how is that fair to those who really NEED the help? Outrageous.

    Talk about letting a few bad apples spoil the whole barrel.
  • Centrist_Bill 2012/07/24 22:34:00
    Yes, legalize begging!
    Centrist_Bill
    While most if not all of us dont care for beggars I find it hard to believe its not covered by the Freedom of Speech.
  • TasselLady 2012/07/24 21:37:24
    No, don't legalize it!
    TasselLady
    He sounds more like a con man than a peddler.
  • MR. 2012/07/24 21:30:43 (edited)
    Yes, legalize begging!
    MR.
    +2
    IF *MR. OBAMA GETS "RE-ELECTED" (SHUDDER),... WE'LL HAVE TO! *(KLINK! HIS HOPE AND CHANGE IN ACTION,..."WOULD YOU LIKE A RECEIPT FOR THAT?)
  • conservyT 2012/07/24 21:26:57
    Yes, legalize begging!
    conservyT
    I think I found my DREAM JOB!!!

    LOL!!!
  • BlondeAphrodite 2012/07/24 21:17:59
    No, don't legalize it!
    BlondeAphrodite
    well it is pathetic but it shouldnt be a crime and some people really did work hard and lost everything and its sad some are just nuts
  • jimmy d 2012/07/24 20:59:04
    Yes, legalize begging!
    jimmy d
    With obamanomics in full swing we should. Then the high and mighty politicians can TAX their take as well!!!!!!
  • Alfred 2012/07/24 20:42:28
    Yes, legalize begging!
    Alfred
    +2
    The government, the banks, Wall Street, and GM do it all the time. You don't see them going to jail.
  • kyle 2012/07/24 20:37:18
    Yes, legalize begging!
    kyle
    If you want to beg than beg. You are not hurting anybody and as long as people are voluntarily giving you money I don't see what is wrong.
  • ServantOfAllah 2012/07/24 20:29:32
    Yes, legalize begging!
    ServantOfAllah
    +2
    If that's your dream, go for it. Free enterprise baby.
  • Servant... Servant... 2012/07/24 20:33:22
    ServantOfAllah
    +3
    Besides, What Would Jesus Do?
    jesus shares loaves
  • Mr.Right Servant... 2012/07/25 15:43:51
    Mr.Right
    +1
    He would be disgusted at all the hypocrisy done in his name.
  • Servant... Mr.Right 2012/07/25 16:31:18
    ServantOfAllah
    +1
    Yes he would.
    soldiers praying
  • Nick 2012/07/24 20:28:22
    Yes, legalize begging!
    Nick
    Who knew it was illegal, I guess we should ask for their last bank statement
  • Servant... Nick 2012/07/24 20:30:08
    ServantOfAllah
    +1
    Tax it.
  • Nick Servant... 2012/07/24 20:32:31
    Nick
    +1
    So will we need to send W2s to everyone we hand money or clothes to
  • Servant... Nick 2012/07/24 20:38:02
    ServantOfAllah
    +2
    they'll have to keep records.
  • Nick Servant... 2012/07/24 20:39:07
    Nick
    +1
    They need to keep record of where it came from too
  • Servant... Nick 2012/07/24 20:59:22
    ServantOfAllah
    +4
    they should probably use a spreadsheet.
  • Amy ♥ ... Nick 2012/07/24 21:28:12
    Amy  ♥ not so furious ♥
    +1
    actually i think that would fall into the 1099 catagory
  • Nick Amy ♥ ... 2012/07/25 00:54:59
    Nick
    +1
    Only you would know that, and maybe my buddy Phil
  • Amy ♥ ... Nick 2012/07/25 00:58:26
    Amy  ♥ not so furious ♥
    way to go Phil
    high five
  • Mr.Right Servant... 2012/07/25 15:44:15
    Mr.Right
    +1
    Tax the churches too!
  • Lil 2012/07/24 20:00:24
    No, don't legalize it!
    Lil
    Begging isn't already.. ?
  • john.dutyiii 2012/07/24 19:51:30
    No, don't legalize it!
    john.dutyiii
    Too many people already make money doing everything BUT work and welfare should be cut too!If you want to make money get a job-wonder why that idea alludes more people today then it ever has?
  • CLIFF Y... john.du... 2012/07/24 23:46:03
    CLIFF YARBROUGH
    You must not be affected yet by the world wide recession. Don't forget to say thanks in your prayers tonight. I don't want to judge you, but I have seen people lately who spoke as you did until they lost their jobs and homes. They are very grateful for the welfare that has saved their families from the street. I very sincerely hope that you never have to feel that gratitude. I would suggest that those, who want to and can give to beggars, do. Those who don't want to give don't. Legalize begging? Criminalize charity? The guy who started the debate appears to be a douche, but maybe he is following the American way of "getting his".
  • chris. john.du... 2012/07/25 04:56:28
    chris.
    WTF is 'alludes'
  • charles nelson 2012/07/24 19:48:38
    Yes, legalize begging!
    charles nelson
    Yes, tax the Beggars
  • actor44 2012/07/24 19:10:07
    Yes, legalize begging!
    actor44
    +2
    This is something that should be neither legal nor illegal. This is none of your damed business!
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