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New evidence suggests Stone Age hunters from Europe discovered America

☥☽✪☾DAW ☽✪☾ 2012/03/01 22:54:13
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New archaeological evidence suggests that America was first discovered by Stone Age people from Europe – 10,000 years before the Siberian-originating ancestors of the American Indians set foot in the New World.
A remarkable series of several dozen European-style stone tools, dating back between 19,000 and 26,000 years, have been discovered at six locations along the US east coast. Three of the sites are on the Delmarva Peninsular in Maryland, discovered by archaeologist Dr Darrin Lowery of the University of Delaware. One is in Pennsylvania and another in Virginia. A sixth was discovered by scallop-dredging fishermen on the seabed 60 miles from the Virginian coast on what, in prehistoric times, would have been dry land.
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The new discoveries are among the most important archaeological breakthroughs for several decades - and are set to add substantially to our understanding of humanity's spread around the globe.
The similarity between other later east coast US and European Stone Age stone tool technologies has been noted before. But all the US European-style tools, unearthed before the discovery or dating of the recently found or dated US east coast sites, were from around 15,000 years ago - long after Stone Age Europeans (the Solutrean cultures of France and Iberia) had ceased making such artefacts. Most archaeologists had therefore rejected any possibility of a connection. But the newly-discovered and recently-dated early Maryland and other US east coast Stone Age tools are from between 26,000 and 19,000 years ago - and are therefore contemporary with the virtually identical western European material.
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What’s more, chemical analysis carried out last year on a European-style stone knife found in Virginia back in 1971 revealed that it was made of French-originating flint.
Professor Dennis Stanford, of the Smithsonian Institution in Washington DC, and Professor Bruce Bradley of the University of Exeter, the two leading archaeologists who have analysed all the evidence, are proposing that Stone Age people from Western Europe migrated to North America at the height of the Ice Age by travelling (over the ice surface and/or by boat) along the edge of the frozen northern part of the Atlantic. They are presenting their detailed evidence in a new book - Across Atlantic Ice – published this month.
 Stone Age hunters from Europe discovered America
At the peak of the Ice Age, around three million square miles of the North Atlantic was covered in thick ice for all or part of the year.
However, the seasonally shifting zone where the ice ended and the open ocean began would have been extremely rich in food resources – migrating seals, sea birds, fish and the now-extinct northern hemisphere penguin-like species, the great auk.
 Stone Age hunters from Europe discovered America
Stanford and Bradley have long argued that Stone Age humans were quite capable of making the 1500 mile journey across the Atlantic ice - but till now there was comparatively little evidence to support their thinking.
But the new Maryland, Virginia and other US east coast material, and the chemical tests on the Virginian flint knife, have begun to transform the situation. Now archaeologists are starting to investigate half a dozen new sites in Tennessee, Maryland and even Texas – and these locations are expected to produce more evidence.
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Another key argument for Stanford and Bradley’s proposal is the complete absence of any human activity in north-east Siberia and Alaska prior to around 15,500 years ago. If the Maryland and other east coast people of 26,000 to 19,000 years ago had come from Asia, not Europe, early material, dating from before 19,000 years ago, should have turned up in those two northern areas, but none have been found.
Although Solutrean Europeans may well have been the first Americans, they had a major disadvantage compared to the Asian-originating Indians who entered the New World via the Bering Straits or along the Aleutian Islands chain after 15,500 years ago.
Whereas the Solutreans had only had a 4500 year long ‘Ice Age’ window to carry out their migratory activity, the Asian-originating Indians had some 15,000 years to do it. What’s more, the latter two-thirds of that 15 millennia long period was climatologically much more favourable and substantially larger numbers of Asians were therefore able to migrate.
As a result of these factors the Solutrean (European originating) Native Americans were either partly absorbed by the newcomers or were substantially obliterated by them either physically or through competition for resources.
Some genetic markers for Stone Age western Europeans simply don’t exist in north- east Asia – but they do in tiny quantities among some north American Indian groups. Scientific tests on ancient DNA extracted from 8000 year old skeletons from Florida have revealed a high level of a key probable European-originating genetic marker. There are also a tiny number of isolated Native American groups whose languages appear not to be related in any way to Asian-originating American Indian peoples.
But the greatest amount of evidence is likely to come from under the ocean – for most of the areas where the Solutreans would have stepped off the Ice onto dry land are now up to 100 miles out to sea.
The one underwater site that has been identified - thanks to the scallop dredgers – is set to be examined in greater detail this summer – either by extreme-depth divers or by remotely operated mini submarines equipped with cameras and grab arms.

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  • Mike 2012/03/01 23:04:43
    the school history books always seemed more concerned with who the first Chri...
    Mike
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    I think American history nooks are filled with garbage, and lies history false history false

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  • purpleicecreamvan<3 2012/07/01 23:23:33
    We moderns are so egocentric. We don't give enough credit to the ancients. We...
    purpleicecreamvan<3
    that's really amazing, remarkable
  • Call me Mark willya? 2012/06/22 07:03:17
    Seems like nobody ever had any problems getting here til Christians started t...
    Call me Mark willya?
    Wacky Christians!!! LOL
  • Mungu 2012/06/20 16:07:33
    We moderns are so egocentric. We don't give enough credit to the ancients. We...
    Mungu
    This article is correct in that so called "Clovis man" was not first to arrive in the west, nor was that the only migration here before Cristobal Colon. There were at least 4 migrations here before the great age of trans Atlantic exploration. The earliest were in the southern continent. The first movements were from south to north, not north to south. Australoids were the first to come here.
  • Footage 2012/06/20 15:20:52
    the school history books always seemed more concerned with who the first Chri...
    Footage
    Can't really blame the school history books though. We are learning more and more all the time, and history books always reflect the contemporary thinking of the time they were written.
  • kudabux 2012/06/20 14:37:31
    Seems like nobody ever had any problems getting here til Christians started t...
    kudabux
    +1
    What about the Asians who crossed the ice seeking a warmer climate? We call them Native Americans today
  • SovereignX 2012/06/20 13:24:05
    We moderns are so egocentric. We don't give enough credit to the ancients. We...
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    +2
    evidence is a bitch ain't it?! lol, gotta love it, the kind of stuff creationist try to refute and can nvr actually stand up to the presented evidence........................ that normal, lol
  • Josh Robinson 2012/06/20 12:06:16
    Seems like nobody ever had any problems getting here til Christians started t...
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    The Solutreans Theory... solutreans solutreans
  • Pedro Doller ~POTL-PWCM~JLA 2012/06/20 06:29:52
    We moderns are so egocentric. We don't give enough credit to the ancients. We...
    Pedro Doller ~POTL-PWCM~JLA
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    Interesting article. I saw some show about this, they say their was a link between the Maryland people and also the Clovis. What the show speculated was that climate change made Maryland inhospitable (same time as the demise of Mammoths, saber tooth tigers etc) and they migrated to the southwest (where they just disappeared). I assume most died out and the rest assimilated with the Asian migrations. 70,000 years ago some major event took place and the human population was reduced to 20.000. Don't know if this remnant was all in one place or small pockets in various locations. Anyways, that 20,000 went on to repopulate the earth in the last 70,000 years. Thanks for the blog.
  • Mog of War Pedro D... 2012/06/20 15:20:51
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    +1
    Most events here took place more recently than 70,000 years ago though. The point still remains though, human populations were for the longest time completely subject to the whims of nature. Although in our earliest stages we adapted our environment to suit us, the forces of nature could always change things on a greater order of magnitude. So numerous population collapses have happened, some of them in the realm of recorded history.
  • Pedro D... Mog of War 2012/06/20 15:35:43
    Pedro Doller ~POTL-PWCM~JLA
    Interesting, this stuff. Thanks
  • Mike 2012/06/20 04:34:27
    the school history books always seemed more concerned with who the first Chri...
    Mike
    I chose this because they are all right, but there was no "all of the above".
  • Don Leuty 2012/06/20 04:16:37
    We moderns are so egocentric. We don't give enough credit to the ancients. We...
    Don Leuty
    Nothing new is under the sun, but we are constantly claiming we know it all only to discover someone else already solved it before. How many ELEs have erased the same "discoveries".
  • Nate Hubert 2012/06/20 03:52:49
    We moderns are so egocentric. We don't give enough credit to the ancients. We...
    Nate Hubert
    I sincerely believe that humanity was far more advanced in the past than we will ever know. One can only speculate about what we might have achieved so many thousands of years ago, but it is obvious that there was much more to ancient civilization than we are taught in school.
  • pdarkow 2012/06/20 03:49:44
    We moderns are so egocentric. We don't give enough credit to the ancients. We...
    pdarkow
    That is vey interesting I love studying ancient civilizations and learning new things found in archaeology
  • Picasso's Cat 2012/06/20 03:40:36
    We moderns are so egocentric. We don't give enough credit to the ancients. We...
    Picasso's Cat
    People discovered America for their own sect.
    Nobody really discovered America, because there were already people living here, always have been. Others just came here telling that they discovered it, then killed the local people down to manageable numbers with their new diseases they brought with them and modern weapons the natives did not have.
    It was wholesale slaughter to be the first to kill off the natives and discover a new way to take land away from those who already have it. We are still doing that today all over the globe.
    I'll bet when and if those stone age people came here there were other stone age people here then too.
  • Nam Era Vet #1 DNA TLC 2012/06/20 03:40:06
    We moderns are so egocentric. We don't give enough credit to the ancients. We...
    Nam Era Vet #1 DNA TLC
    +1
    Actually there have been new sites found that prove that many of us Native Americans were here already and never migrated across that Bering Strait. Our Cherokee sites have been found to be much older than that. And our ancestors tell us that Turtle Island (Or America as it is known as now) was our place of origin. I know many will not accept our ancestors words. But new archaeological finds are appearing to prove them right.

    Leif Erickson came and went home. Didn't try to steal any land. Columbus built a gallows and hanged a bunch of Indigenous People when he landed just to show how big and bad he was. Columbus was recalled by Spain for atrocities that he committed in the West Indies. You had to be pretty bad to do that.
  • ☥☽✪☾DAW... Nam Era... 2012/06/20 03:47:56
    ☥☽✪☾DAW ☽✪☾
    +1
    Read few sites the Vikings and Celtics who found America 1,000 years before columbus did some Trading with the natives and did not try to steal thier land
    they Traded and left and came back every 6 months to trade again

    Columbus on the other hand Genocided an entire Race
  • Nam Era... ☥☽✪☾DAW... 2012/06/20 04:10:49
    Nam Era Vet #1 DNA TLC

    Exactly!! See we agree on this. LOL
    Take Care my friend.
  • Josh Ro... ☥☽✪☾DAW... 2012/06/20 12:16:09
    Josh Robinson
    What about the stories of the natives slaughtering whites/spanish on the beachs just after land fall for a few hundred years? My friend and lifelong archaeologist who grew up digging paleo sites in Fl USA told me the natives used to butcher strangers who made landfall, they would cut them to pieces and leave them on the beach to die. Then one day they had the worst idea ever and welcomed them.
  • ☥☽✪☾DAW... Josh Ro... 2012/06/20 14:00:22
    ☥☽✪☾DAW ☽✪☾
    +1
    you have been watching one too many Fictional movies

    when the Spanish landed in Fl the natives honored them and helped them gave them food and shelter and the spanish slaughtered them and Raped the women and enslaved them
  • Josh Ro... ☥☽✪☾DAW... 2012/06/20 14:10:51 (edited)
    Josh Robinson
    I love Quigley... I have 2 of these prints. I live in a city built on top of this. dean quigley warriors dean quigley warriors dean quigley paintings dean quigley paintings
  • kudabux ☥☽✪☾DAW... 2012/06/20 14:43:29
    kudabux
    Columbus sailed under the flag of Spain and the atrocities were committed by the Spanish seamen. I am not giving him a pass on this, just repeating what I have read, written by an esteemed author and American, Howard Zinn
  • ☥☽✪☾DAW... kudabux 2012/06/20 15:43:03
    ☥☽✪☾DAW ☽✪☾
    +1
    "I certify to you that, with the help of God, we shall powerfully enter into your country and shall make war against you in all ways and manners that we can, and shall subject you to the yoke and obedience of the Church and of Their Highnesses. We shall take you and your wives and your children, and shall make slaves of them, and as such shall sell and dispose of them as Their Highnesses may command. And we shall take your goods, and shall do you all the mischief and damage that we can, as to vassals who do not obey and refuse to receive their lord and resist and contradict him."


    The statement Spaniards were required to read to Indians they encountered in the New World, to which the natives cannot understand because of language barrier.

    Excerpted from "A People's History of the United States" by esteemed historian and Boston University Professor Emeritus Howard Zinn:
  • kudabux ☥☽✪☾DAW... 2012/06/20 15:56:12
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    Great post. They were required to make that statement by command of the Queen of Spain
  • ☥☽✪☾DAW... kudabux 2012/06/20 15:43:41
    ☥☽✪☾DAW ☽✪☾
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    Arawak men and women, naked, tawny, and full of wonder, emerged from their villages onto the island's beaches and swam out to get a closer look at the strange big boat. When Columbus and his sailors came ashore, carrying swords, speaking oddly, the Arawaks ran to greet them, brought them food, water, gifts. He later wrote of this in his log: "They... brought us parrots and balls of cotton and spears and many other things, which they exchanged for the glass beads and hawks' bells. They willingly traded everything they owned. . . They were well-built, with good bodies and handsome features. . . They do not bear arms, and do not know them, for I showed them a sword, they took it by the edge and cut themselves out of ignorance. They have no iron. Their spears are made of cane. . . They would make fine servants. . . With fifty men we could subjugate them all and make them do whatever we want."

    These Arawaks of the Bahama Islands were much like Indians on the mainland, who were remarkable (European observers were to say again and again) for their hospitality, their belief in sharing. These traits did not stand out in the Europe of the Renaissance, dominated as it was by the religion of popes, the government of kings, the frenzy for money that marked Western civilization and its first messenger to the Americas, Christopher Columbus.
  • kudabux ☥☽✪☾DAW... 2012/06/20 17:39:51
    kudabux
    Thanks for posting so that others might learn
  • ☥☽✪☾DAW... kudabux 2012/06/20 15:44:01
    ☥☽✪☾DAW ☽✪☾
    +1
    Columbus wrote: "As soon as I arrived in the Indies, on the first Island which I found, I took some of the natives by force in order that they might learn and might give me information of whatever there is in these parts."
    The information that Columbus wanted most was: Where is the gold?

    The Indians, Columbus reported, "are so naive and so free with their possessions that no one who has not witnessed them would believe it. When you ask for something they have, they never say no. To the contrary, they offer to share with anyone. . ." He concluded his report by asking for a little help from their Majesties, and in return he would bring them from his next voyage "as much gold as they need . . . and as many slaves as they ask." He was full of religious talk: "Thus the eternal God, our Lord, gives victory to those who follow His way over apparent impossibilities."



    American Holocaust
    David Stannard, Oxford University Press, 1992
  • ☥☽✪☾DAW... kudabux 2012/06/20 15:44:26
    ☥☽✪☾DAW ☽✪☾
    +1
    Wherever the marauding, diseased, and heavily armed Spanish forces went out on patrol, accompanied by ferocious armored dogs that had been trained to kill and disembowel, they preyed on the local communities — already plague-enfeebled — forcing them to supply food and women and slaves, and whatever else the soldiers might desire. At virtually every previous landing on this trip Columbus's troops had gone ashore and killed indiscriminately, as though for sport, whatever animals and birds and natives they encountered, "looting and destroying all they found," as the Admiral's son Fernando blithely put it. Once on Hispaniola, however, Columbus fell ill — whether from the flu or, more likely, from some other malady — and what little restraint he had maintained over his men disappeared as he went through a lengthy period of recuperation. The troops went wild, stealing, killing, raping, and torturing natives, trying to force them to divulge the whereabouts of the imagined treasure—houses of gold.

    The Indians tried to retaliate by launching ineffective ambushes of stray Spaniards. But the combined killing force of Spanish diseases and Spanish military might was far greater than anything the natives could ever have imagined. Finally, they decided the best response was flight. Crops were...
    Wherever the marauding, diseased, and heavily armed Spanish forces went out on patrol, accompanied by ferocious armored dogs that had been trained to kill and disembowel, they preyed on the local communities — already plague-enfeebled — forcing them to supply food and women and slaves, and whatever else the soldiers might desire. At virtually every previous landing on this trip Columbus's troops had gone ashore and killed indiscriminately, as though for sport, whatever animals and birds and natives they encountered, "looting and destroying all they found," as the Admiral's son Fernando blithely put it. Once on Hispaniola, however, Columbus fell ill — whether from the flu or, more likely, from some other malady — and what little restraint he had maintained over his men disappeared as he went through a lengthy period of recuperation. The troops went wild, stealing, killing, raping, and torturing natives, trying to force them to divulge the whereabouts of the imagined treasure—houses of gold.

    The Indians tried to retaliate by launching ineffective ambushes of stray Spaniards. But the combined killing force of Spanish diseases and Spanish military might was far greater than anything the natives could ever have imagined. Finally, they decided the best response was flight. Crops were left to rot in the fields as the Indians attempted to escape the frenzy of the conquistadors' attacks. Starvation then added its contribution, along with pestilence and mass murder, to the native peoples' woes.
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  • kudabux Nam Era... 2012/06/20 14:41:16
    kudabux
    +1
    Actually, I read that when Columbus landed, he left a group of Spaniards on shore who actually committed the atrocities. Siource: A People's History of the United States' by Howard Zinn
  • Nam Era... kudabux 2012/06/20 17:13:22
    Nam Era Vet #1 DNA TLC
    Well that could be partially true. But on the whole he ordered many many atrocities that were done with his orders.
  • kudabux Nam Era... 2012/06/20 17:38:46
    kudabux
    +1
    Actually, the orders came directly from the Queen of Spain, as stated in Zinn's book See Daws. posts above
  • Nam Era... kudabux 2012/06/20 17:49:21
    Nam Era Vet #1 DNA TLC
    Actually Columbus did things on his own many times. I read his post. And it's not all that is written. I have researched this myself for years and have several books on the topic. I'm not denying Spain had a bad history of genocide. But I am not excusing Columbus either. Just like Nazis couldn't get away with genocide by saying "I was just following orders."
    Here's a good one
    topic denying spain history genocide excusing columbus nazis genocide orders

    We call him Killumbus
  • kudabux Nam Era... 2012/06/20 20:27:56
    kudabux
    +2
    I do not read anything about the holocaust, but thanks anyway
    And Howard Zinn is a scholar and knows more than I do.
  • Nam Era... kudabux 2012/06/20 22:17:37
    Nam Era Vet #1 DNA TLC
    +1
    American Holocaust is about the Native American Holocaust by Columbus and others. Not the Jewish one. Open your mind.
  • ☥☽✪☾DAW... Nam Era... 2012/06/20 22:23:15
    ☥☽✪☾DAW ☽✪☾
    +1
    Google the Canadian holocaust i have a blog on it if you wish to read it
    The Canadian Holocaust(Video)
    http://www.sodahead.com/livin...
  • Nam Era... ☥☽✪☾DAW... 2012/06/20 22:42:32
    Nam Era Vet #1 DNA TLC
    I know. I have friends who are Mohawk.
  • kudabux Nam Era... 2012/06/20 22:49:52
    kudabux
    +1
    sorry, nam. I misunderstood. And FYI, my mind is wide open
  • ☥☽✪☾DAW... kudabux 2012/06/20 22:23:19
    ☥☽✪☾DAW ☽✪☾
    +2
    The Canadian Holocaust(Video)
    http://www.sodahead.com/livin...
  • kudabux ☥☽✪☾DAW... 2012/06/20 22:50:20
    kudabux
    +1
    Thanks
  • kudabux ☥☽✪☾DAW... 2012/06/20 22:51:58
    kudabux
    +1
    I saw a movie about this a while back. What an embarrassment!

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