NASA Says Hotter Summers Since 1980 Caused by Global Warming: Is Global Warming Man-Made?

by mrosen814 Posted 2012/08/07 21:00:00

Related Topics: Nasa, Global Warming, Space, Heat, Summer, Heat Wave, Hot

737 votes
Read all 1,647 opinions
Lightning Report View Results and Demographics + View Demographics

Loading Demographics... Click an icon to see demographic results Display unknown and private
	Yes	333 votes	45%
	No	404 votes	55%

The study leader from NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies, James Hansen, as well as researchers Makiko Sato and Reto Ruedy, have concluded that U.S. summer heat waves (mainly in the Midwest) "have become the norm over the last 30 years compared to a base period 30 years before 1980 -- and it's because of global warming." Do you agree with NASA? You can read more about the study by clicking the 'DAILYTECH.COM' link below.

DAILYTECH.COM reports:
Hotter summers have become the norm from 1980 to present compared to 1951 to 1980 (the base period)

reports hotter summers norm 1980 compared 1951 1980 base period

+39

Add a comment above

Kigan 2012/08/07 22:04:50 (edited)

No

+44
The same cycle of heating and cooling the planet has gone through for years.

Your comparing two 30 year periods. It's the same moronic crap as local weather people calling 105 degree the hottest day ever in Georgia, yet when I was a kid I remember it hitting at least that much. Anyone that has lived her long enough remembers it.

Yet all the same they play on the hope that you have a short term memory.
>> See Replies

More polls by mrosen814

C. C. R... to truthzx95 2012/08/18 17:06:11

look commie...WHAT???? You are still burning wood and driving a car??? OMG you have caused global warming AGAIN..YOU are killing this earth...MURDERER!!!!!!

reply
truthzx95 to C. C. R... 2012/08/20 21:13:25

the arrogance of you people to think you could actually have an effect on mother nature is so audacious it is beyond belief.
still killing babies? you abortion lovers are the REAL murderers.

reply
truthzx95 to C. C. R... 2012/08/20 21:15:39

you don't have any idea of how many billions of years this planet has been here do you? and to think that you morons believe humans could destroy it in 237 years is preposterous. you idiots are mind boggling.

reply
C. C. R... to truthzx95 2012/08/22 15:27:37

Yes, it is mind boggling that man could ever destroy this earth. But yet they do....GET a wake up call dude. HUMANS are destroying this earth. Grow some BALLS if you have any left and start doing some thing about it, VOTE DEM the only party who is working on this very issue

reply
truthzx95 to C. C. R... 2012/08/23 04:14:27

the survival of the human race means nothing to you loons. animals and trees are more important in your minds. i tell you what, the minute after you OFF yourself because you are so guilty about your carbon footprint, i'll do the same.

reply
keliffa 2012/08/09 10:55:27

No

+3
Then why do thousands of scientists say global warming is total horsesh!t?

reply
Icarus to keliffa 2012/08/09 16:33:46

+2
They don't. You might find three or four paid by Exxon to say that, if you're lucky.

reply
Dan der... to Icarus 2012/08/09 18:31:26 (edited)

There are a few more than 3 or 4. Here's 50 former NASA scientists and engineers that oppose man-made global warming. At the very least, it's clearly not a settled issue yet.

1. Jack Barneburg, Jack – JSC, Space Shuttle Structures, Engineering Directorate, 34 years
2. Larry Bell – JSC, Mgr. Crew Systems Div., Engineering Directorate, 32 years
3. Dr. Donald Bogard – JSC, Principal Investigator, Science Directorate, 41 years
4. Jerry C. Bostick – JSC, Principal Investigator, Science Directorate, 23 years
5. Dr. Phillip K. Chapman – JSC, Scientist – astronaut, 5 years
6. Michael F. Collins, JSC, Chief, Flight Design and Dynamics Division, MOD, 41 years
7. Dr. Kenneth Cox – JSC, Chief Flight Dynamics Div., Engr. Directorate, 40 years
8. Walter Cunningham – JSC, Astronaut, Apollo 7, 8 years
9. Dr. Donald M. Curry – JSC, Mgr. Shuttle Leading Edge, Thermal Protection Sys., Engr. Dir., 44 years
10. Leroy Day – Hdq. Deputy Director, Space Shuttle Program, 19 years
11. Dr. Henry P. Decell, Jr. – JSC, Chief, Theory & Analysis Office, 5 years
12. Charles F. Deiterich – JSC, Mgr., Flight Operations Integration, MOD, 30 years
13. Dr. Harold Doiron – JSC, Chairman, Shuttle Pogo Prevention Panel, 16 years
14. Charles Duke – JSC, Astronaut, Apollo 16, 10 years
15. Anita Gale
16. Grace Germany ...

&

&

&

There are a few more than 3 or 4. Here's 50 former NASA scientists and engineers that oppose man-made global warming. At the very least, it's clearly not a settled issue yet.

1. Jack Barneburg, Jack – JSC, Space Shuttle Structures, Engineering Directorate, 34 years
2. Larry Bell – JSC, Mgr. Crew Systems Div., Engineering Directorate, 32 years
3. Dr. Donald Bogard – JSC, Principal Investigator, Science Directorate, 41 years
4. Jerry C. Bostick – JSC, Principal Investigator, Science Directorate, 23 years
5. Dr. Phillip K. Chapman – JSC, Scientist – astronaut, 5 years
6. Michael F. Collins, JSC, Chief, Flight Design and Dynamics Division, MOD, 41 years
7. Dr. Kenneth Cox – JSC, Chief Flight Dynamics Div., Engr. Directorate, 40 years
8. Walter Cunningham – JSC, Astronaut, Apollo 7, 8 years
9. Dr. Donald M. Curry – JSC, Mgr. Shuttle Leading Edge, Thermal Protection Sys., Engr. Dir., 44 years
10. Leroy Day – Hdq. Deputy Director, Space Shuttle Program, 19 years
11. Dr. Henry P. Decell, Jr. – JSC, Chief, Theory & Analysis Office, 5 years
12. Charles F. Deiterich – JSC, Mgr., Flight Operations Integration, MOD, 30 years
13. Dr. Harold Doiron – JSC, Chairman, Shuttle Pogo Prevention Panel, 16 years
14. Charles Duke – JSC, Astronaut, Apollo 16, 10 years
15. Anita Gale
16. Grace Germany – JSC, Program Analyst, 35 years
17. Ed Gibson – JSC, Astronaut Skylab 4, 14 years
18. Richard Gordon – JSC, Astronaut, Gemini Xi, Apollo 12, 9 years
19. Gerald C. Griffin – JSC, Apollo Flight Director, and Director of Johnson Space Center, 22 years
20. Thomas M. Grubbs – JSC, Chief, Aircraft Maintenance and Engineering Branch, 31 years
21. Thomas J. Harmon
22. David W. Heath – JSC, Reentry Specialist, MOD, 30 years
23. Miguel A. Hernandez, Jr. – JSC, Flight crew training and operations, 3 years
24. James R. Roundtree – JSC Branch Chief, 26 years
25. Enoch Jones – JSC, Mgr. SE&I;, Shuttle Program Office, 26 years
26. Dr. Joseph Kerwin – JSC, Astronaut, Skylab 2, Director of Space and Life Sciences, 22 years
27. Jack Knight – JSC, Chief, Advanced Operations and Development Division, MOD, 40 years
28. Dr. Christopher C. Kraft – JSC, Apollo Flight Director and Director of Johnson Space Center, 24 years
29. Paul C. Kramer – JSC, Ass.t for Planning Aeroscience and Flight Mechanics Div., Egr. Dir., 34 years
30. Alex (Skip) Larsen
31. Dr. Lubert Leger – JSC, Ass’t. Chief Materials Division, Engr. Directorate, 30 years
32. Dr. Humbolt C. Mandell – JSC, Mgr. Shuttle Program Control and Advance Programs, 40 years
33. Donald K. McCutchen – JSC, Project Engineer – Space Shuttle and ISS Program Offices, 33 years
34. Thomas L. (Tom) Moser – Hdq. Dep. Assoc. Admin. & Director, Space Station Program, 28 years
35. Dr. George Mueller – Hdq., Assoc. Adm., Office of Space Flight, 6 years
36. Tom Ohesorge
37. James Peacock – JSC, Apollo and Shuttle Program Office, 21 years
38. Richard McFarland – JSC, Mgr. Motion Simulators, 28 years
39. Joseph E. Rogers – JSC, Chief, Structures and Dynamics Branch, Engr. Directorate, 40 years
40. Bernard J. Rosenbaum – JSC, Chief Engineer, Propulsion and Power Division, Engr. Dir., 48 years
41. Dr. Harrison (Jack) Schmitt – JSC, Astronaut Apollo 17, 10 years
42. Gerard C. Shows – JSC, Asst. Manager, Quality Assurance, 30 years
43. Kenneth Suit – JSC, Ass’t Mgr., Systems Integration, Space Shuttle, 37 years
44. Robert F. Thompson – JSC, Program Manager, Space Shuttle, 44 years
45. Frank Van Renesselaer – Hdq., Mgr. Shuttle Solid Rocket Boosters, 15 years
46. Dr. James Visentine – JSC Materials Branch, Engineering Directorate, 30 years
47. Manfred (Dutch) von Ehrenfried – JSC, Flight Controller; Mercury, Gemini & Apollo, MOD, 10 years
48. George Weisskopf – JSC, Avionics Systems Division, Engineering Dir., 40 years
49. Al Worden – JSC, Astronaut, Apollo 15, 9 years
50. Thomas (Tom) Wysmuller – JSC, Meteorologist, 5 years
(more)

reply
Icarus to Dan der... 2012/08/09 19:04:28 (edited)

+2
They're retired engineers, technicians and administrators, not NASA scientists. Why are you trying to pull the wool over people's eyes? Don't you have any actual science to argue with?

Here's what NASA actually say:

CO₂ is the main driver of global climate:
http://www.giss.nasa.gov/rese...

CO₂ provides 80% of the forcing that sustains the greenhouse effect:
http://www.nasa.gov/topics/ea...

Natural processes cannot account for the global warming trend:
http://pubs.giss.nasa.gov/doc...

reply
Seeker ... to Icarus 2012/08/09 20:28:10

+1
I personally know a senior climate meteorologist (an actual scientist) who works for the NWS. I have asked him what he thinks of the global warming issue, and he said it's all politics. He said that the higher-ups will not allow them to publish contradictory evidence, that shows that it's completely natural.

reply
Icarus to Seeker ... 2012/08/09 21:18:06

+1
As you must know, there is no such evidence. The radiative physics of greenhouse gases was established in the 19th Century, and there is no doubt that our 40% increase in CO2 is enhancing the greenhouse effect and heating up the planet. The politicians need to sort out what to do about it, not deny the reality that it's happening.

reply
Seeker ... to Icarus 2012/08/09 22:07:34 (edited)

"there is no doubt..."

Oh, there is plenty of doubt.

And there is plenty of evidence of political and corporate manipulation of the data.

http://online.wsj.com/article...

reply
Icarus to Seeker ... 2012/08/12 11:30:43

reply
Seeker ... to Icarus 2012/08/12 16:03:33

That's not a reply, that's a blatant dodge. The "scandalous emails" are very real, and show a definite pattern of manipulation of the data for political means.

reply
Icarus to Seeker ... 2012/08/12 17:27:11

Diversionary tactics are often used by the global warming denial scammers. It's just one form of dishonesty amongst many that they employ, and of course they never produce any actual valid argument or evidence to contradict AGW because there isn't any.

reply
\V/ to Dan der... 2012/08/11 16:22:55

$\V/$

You forgot Dr. Larry Lies Deceitfully, Pvt Dick, 2 years goin on 3

reply
\V/ to Icarus 2012/08/09 18:36:31

$\V/$

+3
Why do thousands of scientists say that stupidity is the most common element in the universe and or Florida?

Answer: For the very same reason Scientology HQ is located there.

reply
Icarus to \V/ 2012/08/09 19:05:17

+1
:-)

reply
keliffa to Icarus 2012/08/09 22:02:59

Negative.

reply
\V/ to Icarus 2012/08/11 16:20:05

$\V/$

+1
Who ya gonna believe, Exxon Scientists or your own two eyes?

reply
Icarus to \V/ 2012/08/11 20:27:41

+1
Surely Exxon wouldn't deceive the public to protect their profits... would they?

reply
\V/ to Icarus 2012/08/11 20:33:08

$\V/$

+1
Yeah, thats a hard one...lol

reply
WannaBeRSC the Contrarian SOB 2012/08/09 10:31:44

No

+2
Does anyone still listen to NASA? If so, why?

reply
Pete 2012/08/09 10:14:01

No

+1
Scientists should know better. Heat waves for the past 30 years are called "weather." Heat waves for the next thousand years could be called "climate" or "climate change." Planet earth has always experienced changes in weather patterns of short duration like 30 years and changes in climate like four Ice Ages, with the last one ending about 10,000 years ago. Earth could be facing another Ice Age rather than global warming with the right combination of cosmic causes. Since earth is an inhabitant of the solar system and space, cosmic factors not currently understood could be influencing a weather pattern lasting for 30 years. For example, the recent increase in solar activity and coronal mass ejections aimed at earth can influence earth's weather. But predictions about the tenacity of climate change are difficult to make because other space phenomena like interstellar gas clouds in the wrong place at the wrong time could also counteract even the effects of a hyperactive sun to create another Ice Age. Any knowledgeable person who attributes current extreme weather patterns to global warming is probably more interested in politics than in science or history and doesn't know the facts.

reply
Icarus to Pete 2012/08/12 11:35:39 (edited)

Perhaps you need to update your knowledge of climate science. The natural influences on climate have been fairly well quantified, and are nowhere near sufficient to account for the current warming, which is consistent with what we'd expect from our elevated level of greenhouse gases. More to the point, there are a number of 'fingerprints' which show that the warming is attributable to the enhanced greenhouse effect rather than, say, increased solar irradiance. There really isn't any significant doubt that the switch in the last century or so from gradual cooling to rapid warming is due to us -

http://www2.ucar.edu/news/846...

reply
trentinafur 2012/08/09 07:09:05 (edited)

Yes

+3
oh, of course. The right wing SH global warming deniers know more about climate change than NASA scientists.

What a sad, sorry joke.

reply
KentPerry to trentin... 2012/08/09 10:22:42

+2
You mean NO ONE on the right who is a Scientist can know more than a NASA tax paid employee? If there was evidence proving it is happening because of cow farts I'd believe it but until they put the money toward fixing it, it is just another power and money grab

reply
trentin... to KentPerry 2012/08/09 17:12:23

+1
No - I mean the vast majority of scientists - INCLUDING NASA scientists - agree that global warming is indeed occurring - and that human polluting is the major contributor.

Even a Koch-funded scientist on the topic - Dr. Richard Muller -has become a believer. Is that "another power and money grab"? - biting the Koch hand that has been feeding him very well for several years? Yehhh.....not really.

"There is broad scientific agreement global warming is happening and that humans are at least partially to blame. But there are some important scientific skeptics. Last month, in the New York Times, one of the most important of them did a public about-face. Richard Muller, a physicist at the University of California at Berkeley, now says it’s real and humans are almost entirely to blame."

http://globalpublicsquare.blo...

Scientists who deny Global Warming are a dying breed. A very small minority of crackpots, who are indeed paid to try to counter a losing battle. Supporting polluters is where the money is, dude. Not on the side of the majority of scientists who have determined that Global Warming is real, and is largely man-made. So you pretty much have it bass-ackward, bud.

Can you find a few crackpots who will say otherwise? Yup. But they are a very small minority. Generally...

No - I mean the vast majority of scientists - INCLUDING NASA scientists - agree that global warming is indeed occurring - and that human polluting is the major contributor.

Even a Koch-funded scientist on the topic - Dr. Richard Muller -has become a believer. Is that "another power and money grab"? - biting the Koch hand that has been feeding him very well for several years? Yehhh.....not really.

"There is broad scientific agreement global warming is happening and that humans are at least partially to blame. But there are some important scientific skeptics. Last month, in the New York Times, one of the most important of them did a public about-face. Richard Muller, a physicist at the University of California at Berkeley, now says it’s real and humans are almost entirely to blame."

http://globalpublicsquare.blo...

Scientists who deny Global Warming are a dying breed. A very small minority of crackpots, who are indeed paid to try to counter a losing battle. Supporting polluters is where the money is, dude. Not on the side of the majority of scientists who have determined that Global Warming is real, and is largely man-made. So you pretty much have it bass-ackward, bud.

Can you find a few crackpots who will say otherwise? Yup. But they are a very small minority. Generally found on crackpot sites like Newmax.
(more)

reply
KentPerry to trentin... 2012/08/21 17:20:21 (edited)

Tell you what hotshot, GIVE ME YOUR BEST EXAMPLE FOR PROOF PRIMA FACIE EVIDENCE FOR GLOBAL WARMING AND CONNECT IT TO MAN AS THE CAUSE. THEN ILL SHOW YOU HOW EASY YOUR ARGUMENT IS TO DESTROY. OK HOSS?

reply
truthzx95 to trentin... 2012/08/09 14:28:23

what makes you think that communists know more about anything than the citizens?

reply
trentin... to truthzx95 2012/08/09 17:14:22

if you can say something semi-intelligent, I'll respond. If you can't do that - go waste someone else' time. Thx.

reply
truthzx95 to trentin... 2012/08/11 15:09:45

you have NEVER once said anything close to being intelligent. you are nothing but the typical extremist, far-left ideologue.

reply
aguster 2012/08/09 07:00:26

No

+1
It's Bush's fault!

reply
garyt212 2012/08/09 06:08:04

No

+1
Total BS....we are still recovering from the Ice Age!

reply
Crank_It_Up 2012/08/09 06:02:58

Yes

+7
yes but it is easy to understand the backlash. Lots of large corporate industry stands to lose a lot of money if we try to shrink our carbon output. They control congress and of course have their ridiculous mouthpiece, fox news. So it's easy to understand why many conservatives would have voted no.
But science will win in the end. It took a long time to convince people that the earth was not flat too.

reply
trentin... to Crank_I... 2012/08/09 07:10:42

+3
Amen, crank it up.

reply
C. C. R... to Crank_I... 2012/08/09 15:15:45

+3
Fantastic post.

reply
truthzx95 to C. C. R... 2012/08/14 03:34:57

total bull$hit.

reply
Gloria to Crank_I... 2012/08/09 16:10:10

+2

reply
\V/ to Crank_I... 2012/08/09 19:14:33

$\V/$

+2
Awesome my friend. You got it!

reply