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MUSLIM MULTI-WIVES LISTED AS EXTENDED FAMILY TO DRAW BENEFITS FROM GOVERNMENT PROGRAMS?

~ The Rebel ~ 2011/07/19 17:53:37
LOOK!!!!! Muslims immigrants brought all their wives and signed them on welfare!!!

Muslim men are allowed to have as many as 4 wives. Many Muslims have immigrated into the U.S. and brought their 2-3-or 4 wives with them, but the U.S. does not allow
multi marriages, so the man lists one wife as his, and signs the other 2 or 3 up
as extended family on welfare and other free Government programs!

Open the file to see for yourself and it's there alright.

http://www.michigan.gov/dh​s/0,1607,7-124-5453_5527--​-,00.html

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  • TombstoneJim 2012/10/09 19:23:08
    TombstoneJim
    +1
    I don't know of how, or if any, Islamic families have immigrated which involved previously existing polygamous marriages (which are fairly common in Islam), but I would presume that some would have over the years? How would that we handled by immigration authorities? I know that diplomats from polygamous nations do indeed have their wives on the embassy compound….

    Of greater concern is Jihad, Global Caliphate and loyalty to Islam being superior to any other oaths or loyalties. Also worthy of mention is the status of non-Muslims in predominately Muslim countries – not that good a track record around the world….the old convert, demi, or die issue…..
  • Usti Waya BN-0 2011/07/21 01:06:33
  • Joaquim 2011/07/20 20:37:16
    Joaquim
    +1
    There's no mention of multiple wives in the link. Are you an anti-Islam bigot?
  • ~ The R... Joaquim 2011/07/20 20:38:58 (edited)
    ~ The Rebel ~
    It does state on there that they can not discriminate because of: (group, national origin and marital status... doesn't that cover it?)

    Man the hippies would love living there today!!!

    The Department of Human Services (DHS) will not discriminate against any
    individual or group because of race, sex, religion, age, national origin, color, height,
    weight, marital status, political beliefs or disability, sex, sexual orientation, gender
    identity or expression.
  • Joaquim ~ The R... 2011/07/20 20:43:38
    Joaquim
    +1
    After a quick check, I discovered the State of Michigan is controlled by a Republican-controlled legislature and has a Republican governor and Republican Lt. Governor.

    In the law, where does it specifically state multiple wives are permitted in Michigan. Multiple wives or husbands is prohibited by U.S. law; therefore, your conservatively-inspired nonsense has no validity.

    I doubt you can cite a single instance of the Michigan law rewarding multiple wives.
  • OrackBo... Joaquim 2011/09/30 21:24:17
    OrackBobama
    +2
    It doesnt make him an anti islam bigot.

    His post didnt say that they get multiple wives. It said they had wives overseas
    and then were able to bring them over. After sponsoring them, they go on welfare.
  • Joaquim OrackBo... 2011/10/03 17:33:23
    Joaquim
    How do you know they go on welfare?
  • ProudProgressive 2011/07/19 18:04:36 (edited)
    ProudProgressive
    +1
    First of all, your link doesn't work.

    EDIT: This link seems to work better:

    http://www.michigan.gov/dhs/0...

    Second of all, the story concerns STATE assistance programs that are created and administered by the State of Michigan.

    Third of all, though I can't verify it since your link doesn't work, the law has undoubtedly been worded the same for quite some time.

    Fourth of all, the Republican stereotype that anyone who immigrates to the United States just so they can go on welfare is not based in reality. Most immigrants (other than visitors) have to prove that they either have a job waiting for them or have been accepted by an accredited school as a full time student or they will not be permitted to stay.

    EDIT: And Fifth of all, there doesn't seem to be even one actual example of anyone actually doing this. The fact that a regulation might somehow be read as allowing this does not mean that it actually has happened or that it would be approved if it did. If you can track down just ONE example of someone actually doing this I'd be very interested to read about it.
  • ~ The R... ProudPr... 2011/07/19 18:06:57
    ~ The Rebel ~
    Yeah right!

    As for the link not working... you have to belong to that group to use their links! Guess you're on your own and need to do some searching, eh?
  • ProudPr... ~ The R... 2011/07/19 18:20:10
    ProudProgressive
    +1
    My link works. I provided it as an assistance to you.

    Also, I looked through the regulations and, as expected, there is no mention of "multiple wives". In fact the FAP (Food Assistance Program) regulations specify that:

    "A household may be one person or a group of people who live together and customarily buy and prepare their food together"

    So under Michigan law it does not matter in the least what the relationship is among adults who live in the same household. An unmarried heterosexual couple would count. A homosexual couple (married or not) would count. A brother and sister who live together and take care of their elderly parents would count.

    For once I'd really appreciate your actually responding to what I say - why are you blaming President Obama for a program that was created and is administered entirely by a state government - a state government run by a Conservative Republican, to boot?
  • ~ The R... ProudPr... 2011/07/19 19:26:09 (edited)
    ~ The Rebel ~
    I never blamed oBlunder... you're the one that assumed everybody on here did!!!

    It does state on there that they can not discriminate because of: (group, national origin and marital status... doesn't that cover it?)

    Man the hippies would be loving living there today!!!

    The Department of Human Services (DHS) will not discriminate against any
    individual or group because of race, sex, religion, age, national origin, color, height,
    weight, marital status, political beliefs or disability, sex, sexual orientation, gender
    identity or expression.
  • ProudPr... ~ The R... 2011/07/19 21:03:19
    ProudProgressive
    +1
    Well I guess that's that. I kind of figured that discrimination against people who are legally married would be a no-no.
  • Joaquim ProudPr... 2011/07/20 20:44:11
    Joaquim
    +1
    It does appear American conservatives have some pretty unrealistic beliefs about immigrants and welfare.
  • chickn 2011/07/19 17:59:32
    chickn
    +2
    somehow these things dont surprise me anymore with this administration
  • ~ The R... chickn 2011/07/19 18:01:19
    ~ The Rebel ~
    +2
    I think they're kind of hoping that nothing surprises us and then they'll lower the boom!!!
  • ProudPr... chickn 2011/07/19 18:05:47
    ProudProgressive
    +1
    Are you referring to the Governor of Michigan or to the Michigan State Legislature? I know you can't possibly be trying to attack President Obama over this one since the report makes clear that this is a STATE program administered under STATE laws and has nothing to do with the Federal Government.
  • ~ The R... ProudPr... 2011/07/19 18:09:02
    ~ The Rebel ~
    +1
    But, but, but don't states get funds from the federal government and have to stay within certain guidelines?
  • ProudPr... ~ The R... 2011/07/19 18:27:03
    ProudProgressive
    +1
    Yeah, there are certain Federal guidelines that, if a state is in substantial noncompliance can result in a curtailment of funds and/or services (for example, when Texas decided to once again throw the Constitution in the garbage and try to criminalize airport safety, the United States properly advised them that it would result in the possible diversion of all flights in or out of Texas). But there are no Federal guidelines that cover polygamy in the context of public assistance, and Michigan's actual statute (without the usual Right Wing Spin Machine) only says that a household consists of adults who "live together and customarily buy food together". There is no mention of marital status or even a family relationship (for instance, an unmarried couple living together would qualify as a "household".

    There also, again, appear to be no stories anywhere that I can find which reference an actual occurrence of someone with multiple spouses receiving public assistance. When you find one we can talk about it.
  • ~ The R... ProudPr... 2011/07/19 19:28:38
    ~ The Rebel ~
    Should I run on up there and see if there's an opening for an added spouse? They always said the more the merrier!!!
  • Steve B... ProudPr... 2012/10/09 18:37:23
    Steve Bennett
    +2
    Can't attack Obama for things he has nothing to do with?!? What? Since when, dude! Watch us attack him for being not born in Hawaii!!
  • ProudPr... Steve B... 2012/10/09 19:00:26
    ProudProgressive
    +1
    We've been watching, and laughing our asses of at you, for the last four years.
  • Steve B... ProudPr... 2012/10/30 22:01:57
    Steve Bennett
    +1
    Sorry. I should have been more clear on the sarcasm!
  • Demonic Rat Hunter 2011/07/19 17:57:07
    Demonic Rat Hunter
    +2
    But isn't the Feds going after Mormons and other polygamists. Oh that's right Muslims are considered "privileged People" by the obama and crew. feds mormons polygamists muslims privileged people obama crew no sharia law feds mormons polygamists muslims privileged people obama crew no sharia law
  • ProudPr... Demonic... 2011/07/19 18:07:39
    ProudProgressive
    +2
    Try reality for a change. You might learn something. This has NOTHING to do with either President Obama or the Federal Government. It's a STATE assistance program provided by the STATE legislature and overseen by the STATE Governor.

    Also, polygamists in this country are not legally married. Other countries do permit legal polygamous marriages.
  • Steve B... Demonic... 2012/10/30 22:02:08
    Steve Bennett
    +1
    FYI: US law is based on the US Constitution. You can relax now.
  • Lord of War 2011/07/19 17:56:02
  • ProudPr... Lord of... 2011/07/19 18:08:34
    ProudProgressive
    +2
    Sure is. It's a shame the State of Michigan has a law like this. Thank goodness the story has absolutely nothing to do with President Obama otherwise the mindless Obama Haters would try to pin this one on him as well as all the other crap they've falsely accused him of.

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