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MORE PEOPLE ARE TAILORING THEIR RELIGION TO FIT THEIR NEEDS

Magical 2011/09/16 17:21:04
Yes, it seems like many people tailor their religion to fit their needs.  This is acceptable to me.
Yes, it seems like many people tailor their religion to fit their needs, but I find this problematic.
No, I think that traditional religion and customs are still prevalent
I couldn’t care less what people believe as long as they don’t harm others.  Live and let live.
I couldn’t care less what people believe as long as they don’t come knocking on my door.
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According to a report I read today on-line, the facts are that more people are tailoring their religion to fit their needs. “That's one of the key findings in newly released research that reveals America's drift from clearly defined religious denominations to faiths cut to fit personal preferences. The folks who make up God as they go are side-by-side with self-proclaimed believers who claim the Christian label but shed their ties to traditional beliefs and practices. Religion statistics expert George Barna says, with a wry hint of exaggeration, America is headed for "310 million people with 310 million religions…



We are a designer society. We want everything customized to our personal needs — our clothing, our food, our education," he says. Now it's our religion…. We live in an era where you pick and choose the part of the religion that makes sense to you. And you can connect through culture and history in a meaningful way without necessarily religiously practicing,..



The bad news is you lose the capacity to make connections. Everyone is pretty much on their own…And all this rampant individualism also fosters "hostility toward organized groups — government, industry, even organized religion…


One individual grew up "old-style Italian Catholic," but says he never felt like his spiritual questions were answered. "I just wiped the slate clean. I studied every major religion on the face of the planet. Every one had parts that made sense, but there was no one specific dogma or tenet I could really follow, So now, I call myself an agnostic — one who just doesn't know. What I believe is that if you can just do the right thing, it works everywhere."



Whether you are into Scientology, Christianity, Atheism, Jeudiasm, etc, what is your viewpoint. Do you agree that in this day and age most people tailor their religion to fit their needs? Is this acceptable to you or problematic? Is this the way you have found your path?

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  • chesterdjester 2011/10/19 23:01:22
    Yes, it seems like many people tailor their religion to fit their needs, but ...
    chesterdjester
    As an atheist I find this to be a dishonest position to take. Something as important as a religion shouldn't be put on because it fits your mood. It's insulting for me to know more about one person's own religion only for them to say "well, I don't believe that part." What?! How is that even remotely logical? "I like this Jesus fella, but I want a tattoo, so i'll ignore that part. Oh gays? a chapter before the tattoo part said they are an abomination so I hate them." That's loony. You're a crappy person for believing like that.

    "I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do because I notice it always coincides with their own desires."

    Susan B. Anthony
  • jmc07806-PWCM-JLA 2011/10/03 13:44:06
    Undecided
    jmc07806-PWCM-JLA
    I am a proud Catholic but when people shop for a religion it can be a good thing but mostly does not end up well or staying with it.
  • ZB 2011/09/29 21:08:55
    I couldn’t care less what people believe as long as they don’t come knocking ...
    ZB
    +1
    Im a Christian, and though I would like to see more people accept my faith as theirs, I know that wont happen. I don't force my beliefs on others and I expect the same courtesy. Believe what you want. When the time comes, we will fi d out who is right, and who is wrong.
  • Chef Bunyan 2011/09/29 00:06:35
    Undecided
    Chef Bunyan
    +1
    I'm a Born Again Christian! I believe the Bible, and am not part of any religious sect!
  • dandieselonian 2011/09/28 21:02:23
    Undecided
    dandieselonian
    shinto buhdism
  • marcie 2011/09/28 17:53:40
    Yes, it seems like many people tailor their religion to fit their needs, but ...
    marcie
    I see a new church and denomination springing up on almost every block. These self proclaimed ministers are inventing their own religions to suit their views. Very annoying . We have far too many organized religions already and some who are doing harmfull things to the public such as the Dove Outreach who burns Korans all over the country in public protests and the other one who protests at military funerals and adds more grief to the families attending the funeral. This is not what God wants from us!
  • Shelby 2011/09/28 17:04:43
    Yes, it seems like many people tailor their religion to fit their needs. Thi...
    Shelby
    +1
    My relationship is with God and not a particular Church or Religion. If people need to tailor their Religion to fit their needs then that is fine with me as long as they are not going around hurting others and/or cramming it down other peoples throats.
  • ANGEL 2011/09/17 19:20:32
    Yes, it seems like many people tailor their religion to fit their needs. Thi...
    ANGEL
    +1
    I must admit that this is how I have chosen my religious path - one that I find to be very practical and one that is a conglomerate of those things that ring true to me from beliefs from other faiths that I've encountered along my spiritual quest. I don't see the problem with this. Unfortunately, there are those out there who can't grasp the concept that others may believe differently than they do and are compelled to attack them for those choices.
  • Sew 2011/09/17 16:28:41
    My opinion is
    Sew
    +2
    iamthemob pretty much sums up my veiws on this and needless to say I think this is a positive developement. The man quoted in this article is much like myself who after years of being a Southern Baptist discarded religion due to inconsistancies and hyprocracy.
  • iamthemob ~ the 444th Guru ~ 2011/09/16 20:13:24
    My opinion is
    iamthemob ~ the 444th Guru ~
    +1
    I think that this may be surprising or upsetting if we consider the relationship to religion and god to be the same thing.

    If anything, religion often appears to limit one's relationship to God - it is conferred more than developed.

    I think it's an exciting trend myself, because unlike Barna I don't see how this limits our relationship with people - like that with God, I think it removes predetermined notions of how to interact with and what we can and who we should learn from.

    The "designer society" argument seems a bit off to me for that reason. The individual quoted describes a desire for more complete answers that he's driven to seek out. It pushed him out into the world. He wasn't trying to "style" a religion - as he settled on "I still don't know" he's essentially shrugged religion altogether.

    The trend seems more a product of being exposed to more and more difference more and more of the time.
  • Magical iamthem... 2011/09/17 00:29:03
    Magical
    +1
    I actually agree with you - I too find the trend 'exciting'. I would think that there are more opportunities to explore different beliefs with the internet, social networks, etc. Personally, I don't see anything wrong with customizing ones beliefs, taking a bit from this pot, a bit from that, because there probably is a lot of truth to be found in different writings. I always enjoyed a good casserole - sometimes the mix of ingredients develops into quite a gourmet delight! (LOL)
  • iamthem... Magical 2011/09/17 16:54:32
    iamthemob ~ the 444th Guru ~
    +2
    What's interesting I find is that the only way to find this upsetting is if one thinks that they have authority to speak on behalf of God. That they have it "right."

    It also has to work under the illusion that any of the faiths have a membership of people that have any uniform beliefs, as opposed to a membership that isn't already made up of individualized concepts or understandings of God. The fact that they're all inevitably sectarian seems to escape them.

    This trend for me actually approaches what any person should see as a reasonable exploration of God and faith (faith and reason are by no ways exclusive - as all knowledge is derived from reason until we accept that we must assume certain things either for now or because we believe them to be true). Otherwise we're forced to delude ourselves into thinking that we have it right, and everyone else has it wrong.

    And you're 100% right about the internet. I'll point out that what's fascinating is that we often see these transformations in religion in conjunction with profound communications developments. Christianity originally spread due to the Roman Empire and their infrastructure of roads - faiths had a way to reach each other easily. Christianity, of course, was a democratization of Judaism - it was a statement that ...

    What's interesting I find is that the only way to find this upsetting is if one thinks that they have authority to speak on behalf of God. That they have it "right."

    It also has to work under the illusion that any of the faiths have a membership of people that have any uniform beliefs, as opposed to a membership that isn't already made up of individualized concepts or understandings of God. The fact that they're all inevitably sectarian seems to escape them.

    This trend for me actually approaches what any person should see as a reasonable exploration of God and faith (faith and reason are by no ways exclusive - as all knowledge is derived from reason until we accept that we must assume certain things either for now or because we believe them to be true). Otherwise we're forced to delude ourselves into thinking that we have it right, and everyone else has it wrong.

    And you're 100% right about the internet. I'll point out that what's fascinating is that we often see these transformations in religion in conjunction with profound communications developments. Christianity originally spread due to the Roman Empire and their infrastructure of roads - faiths had a way to reach each other easily. Christianity, of course, was a democratization of Judaism - it was a statement that there was no chosen people and that all could reach God through an understanding of, in essence, good teachings (much like THIS change). The Reformation was possible as a result of the printing press - it was a reaction against the change from the "Roman Empire" to the "Holy Roman Empire" and the new authority of the church taking away what seems the central premise of Christianity that one reached a relationship with God through personal interaction with scripture. So when it became possible to easily mass-produce the Bible, the church lost its ability to hoard the limited copies of the Bible, and lost its position as one of the few with the resources to produce and distribute it. So now we have a revolution where the Bible is brought to the people, and translated, and that more commentary and discussion of it can be had, and it can be compared to other faiths (much like THIS change).

    Of course, we always see those threatened by change that comes with these expansions of our understanding. Just because we have the capability to suddenly be aware of so much more doesn't mean that it's more human to forget that we often do doom ourselves to repeat these dramas by choosing not to be aware.
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  • Magical iamthem... 2011/09/19 16:16:53
    Magical
    +1
    Quite honestly, that is one of the most intelligent posts I've read in a long time. I agree with all of your points, and admit that I never thought of it in the perspective in which you present your position. I'm curious - are you a historian? Researcher? Professor?
  • iamthem... Magical 2011/09/19 21:00:08
    iamthemob ~ the 444th Guru ~
    +1
    Quite honestly, that's one of the nicest compliments I've received - going even by real-life standards, and not internet ones (where often a compliment is simply not cussing a person out. ;-)).

    In terms of my qualifications or background for this - well, again quite honestly, I think that the sad part of this is that the historical trends are there for all to see. I think the reason why the above might come off as astute, discerning - even intelligent - is that people generally aren't expected to assume that their opinions and beliefs are wrong, or that they shouldn't challenge their own assumptions.

    When we reach an opinion, or have a belief, we should really be expected to assume that we DON'T have all the answers. If we realize that, we'd recognize that the periods where information becomes readily available, and diversity of ideas come into contact, are periods where ALL forms of belief - scientific, social, religious - end up expanding, because we ARE directly challenged.

    My background is more literary, psychological and legal - which demand understanding of history as context. But I'll suggest that my current opinion has been most influenced by "The Empathic Civilization" which seems to be one of the more astute and practical analysis of the development of human knowledge I've recently seen. It does what I've stated above many fail to - trying to take a meta-perspective of one's own beliefs in terms of how and why they're formed.
  • Magical iamthem... 2011/09/20 15:38:38
    Magical
    +1
    Well, Professor - I am going to check out "The Empathic Civilization". I'm certainly interested in learning more. I am sure to have some questions when I'm done doing my homework.
  • seathanaich 2011/09/16 19:44:08
    Yes, it seems like many people tailor their religion to fit their needs. Thi...
    seathanaich
    +1
    I agree with your observation. This has always been the case. People who are nasty have a nasty religion, burn witches, and murder those they disagree with. People who are nice have a nice religion, give to charity, and claim they "love" everyone (exept maybe atheists - that would be a little too much love). The same religions all have people of both these types. At different times, and in different societies, the violent types oppress the non-violent types (medieval Europe, modern Pakistan, etc). People adapt their religion to fit their other values, not the other way around, heavily influenced by the society they live in.

    Today in "western" society there are very few people who actually read their holy books, and know what they say. Theism is rapidly disappearing. In my country, from talking to people, I think that most of the people who say they are "Christian" turn out to be Christian-flavoured deists.

    Therapeutic deism is belief in a warm, comfortable afterlife myth (heaven), without all the bother of the rest of a religion (tithes, going to church, actually reading the Bible, etc). Since people still fear death even after they figure out that religions aren't literally true, belief in heaven persists in people who otherwise reject their parents' religions. Cheers.
  • Magical seathan... 2011/09/17 00:30:31
    Magical
    Thank you. That was an inciteful post.
  • seathan... Magical 2011/09/17 01:02:52
    seathanaich
    +2
    I'm glad it was of interest. Thank you for an interesting topic. You can never assume what people who believe in "God" mean by that. To some people, it's just another word for "nature". At the other extreme, it's a bearded Jewish sky-god who hates gays and obsesses over your private life. Fortunately, there are fewer people who believe in the latter, and more who believe in the former (or none at all). Cheers.
  • millermedia 2011/09/16 18:05:39
    My opinion is
    millermedia
    +1
    This is biblical prophecy being fulfilled right before our eyes.
  • SCOOP--RIP, MY DEAR MAX 2011/09/16 17:58:51
    My opinion is
    SCOOP--RIP, MY DEAR MAX
    +1
    I believe this is true, but I believe we need to tailor our lives according to God's commandments and live the kind of life that is pleasing to Him. I fail every day, but I try harder the next day to not make the same mistakes again.
  • Magical SCOOP--... 2011/09/17 00:32:00
    Magical
    +1
    My guess is that you may be too hard on yourself. You are trying, you are learning from the errors, which says more than most folks.
  • SCOOP--... Magical 2011/09/17 00:40:56
    SCOOP--RIP, MY DEAR MAX
    +1
    Thank you.
  • misterz 2011/09/16 17:26:49
    I couldn’t care less what people believe as long as they don’t harm others. ...
    misterz
    +2
    To each their own.
  • Burning Bright Embers 2011/09/16 17:25:20
    My opinion is
    Burning Bright Embers
    +2
    Been going on since the dawn of time

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