Mass Murder in Wisconsin: Aurora Copycat?

....You misunderstand my argument if you are tying it to the gun-control solution.(or non-solution rather) My argument does not fold on itself because it's not connected to the "gun control" side of things in the least. My discussion has nothing to do with gun control in the general population as I though ti had firmly established that gun control is a bad idea. My entire discussion up to this point has been on the topic of religious centers arming themselves and some of the potential benefits and risks, If you do not understand that, "should citizens be given access to guns," and "should people brings guns to church" are two totally different questions, then maybe you should have your head examined.

Let me reword this. Should the government exercise gun control upon the population? No, because the right to bear arms is important for maintaining a sane, free society. Should religious sects exercise gun control upon people entering their sanctuary? Yes, because you don't want any Tom, Dick, or Harry who may or may not even be there to worship carrying guns into the sanctuary, as that creates an environment where religious sects can easily turn into armed camps, perhaps taking the preacher's words way too literally. So if there are to be guns on the premises, they ought to be only in trusted hands and only during times of trouble. Much like how one ought to handle gun control within one's house. It's a lot safer to only let people you know and trust handle guns on your own property. And if you don't understand these to be separate issues then you probably need to be better educated on the subject.

So how much information do you have about the shooter? For all you know, he's a Muslim who is copying similar acts of violence in the Middle East between Sikhs and various Muslim groups. You don't know and yet you assume it's an American out to kill Muslims out of ignorance and intolerance.

Likewise, you speak of ignorance? Many Sikh's are of an interfaith element where they are both Sikhs and Muslims. When you speak of Indian Sikhs, what you said is more true as that's where Sikhism began, but across other places around the Middle East, people have in fact adopted both faiths in many areas which is something most people like yourself display extreme ignorance about because you don't wait to learn more information before you shoot your mouth off in the wrong direction and blow a hole out of the back of your head.

You lived in India... great, you think you have knowledge... great, but you don't know as much as you claim and act stupid.

We don't know anything much about the shooter and you base all of your comments entirely on the fact that the victims are Sikhs. So how does that make you any more intelligent than the "backwards Americans"? It doesn't and in fact makes you even more ignorant and arrogant.

Over the past four years, we have seen the left jump the gun many times crying out about us stupid Americans attacking white, rightwing, Christian, Conservative, Republican men... then find out it was the exact opposite and it's either one of them or someone of a different race, religious faith and political ideology.

You need to wait, see who it was, address the facts for what they are known to be and not jump the gun with unfounded assumptions.

Art made a natural assumption following a recent mass murder to ask if this was a copycat... you, however, jump in feet over head and make an ass of yourself which only leads other Liberals to join in with you which then makes you all look like ignorant haters because you have nothing to found your views on when you go on the attack.

This ignorance is what's destroying the left faster than anything more as all you needed to do was express your view on Sikhs being different from Muslims along religious lines to educate people... but you have to use it to attack Americans when you yourself are totally uninformed like the majority of us. that's why it comes off as hate.

From the Kentucky census worker a few years back to George Zimmerman shooting Trayvon Martin... it's the same cycle of ignorance and stupidity where you guys have to go on the attack without the first bit of information. George Zimmerman was supposedly an adult white male who shot a black child... from that the left made it the typical hatefest attacking the shooter as a white rightwing Christian Conservative Republican male when the shooter is Hispanic, leftwing, Liberal, Democrat in reality and it went so far that the new Black Panthers put out a bounty on Zimmerman like the KKK used to do when law enforcement released a black suspect because they didn't have enough evidence to hold them while the investigation was still ongoing.

You guys need to calm down, stop the attacks, focus your minds and wait until the facts are known before you start blaming or attacking people. How much trouble is it to wait a day or two to learn more unless you have no ability to learn until you jump the gun and shoot your foot off. haters like the KKK and Aryan Nation jump the gun like that Tim and people of intellect know to wait until enough information has been gathered so they can make an informed opinion about the matter... which do the Liberals and Progressives embrace Tim as for the past four years, you guys have been acting like the KKK and making yourselves look just as ignorant and filled with hate as they do.

WAKE THE HELL UP!!!