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Mandatory Auto Insurance - Constitutional or Unconstitutional

Dennis C Latham 2010/04/28 21:24:04
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  • Barbara Hasler 2010/04/28 23:33:09
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    Barbara Hasler
    +10
    Driving is a priviledge not a right. In order to use the priviledge you must make provisions for the safety of others. Under the 10th amendment a state can madate auto insurance. Insurance is sold to meet each state's individual requirements. It is not transferable.

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  • Dennis ... Angeliq... 2010/04/28 22:48:47
    Dennis C Latham
    +1
    you can tell a state by the crimes of the police

    the more crooked the police are ? The more crooked the politician are

    it tinkles down ......

    I bet alabama is in line with California

    but I don't see how california could be so screwed with all of the money that goes through it and that is made there

    but then again .. all the stars are spending their money somewhere else too ..
    so .... not telling

    sorry to hear that ...
  • Angeliq... Dennis ... 2010/04/28 22:55:20
    Angelique ~ Pfffft!  ;)~
    +1
    California is broke...has been for years. The Taxinator made sure we'll stay in the red long after his term is up. I think Alabama is doing much better than Cali. At least where my family lives they don't seem to have been hit as bad. Where I live we are known as the Foreclosure Capital of the World
  • Dennis ... Angeliq... 2010/04/28 22:57:52
    Dennis C Latham
    +1
    well .. I don't care how bad it gets

    it will never effect me ... but I see it on the people.
  • Angeliq... Dennis ... 2010/04/28 23:00:54
    Angelique ~ Pfffft!  ;)~
    +1
    Yep! It may affect me and my family to a certain degree but we prepare and move on. God will always provide. Always has and always will.
    It is sad to see how others are affected. Gotta feel for them.
  • Dennis ... Angeliq... 2010/04/28 23:37:46
    Dennis C Latham
    +1
    I try to teach all I can how not to be a part of the system

    how to control the situation and don't let the situation control you

    because GOD'S EYE is on the sparrow ...
  • Angeliq... Dennis ... 2010/04/28 23:48:28
    Angelique ~ Pfffft!  ;)~
    +1

    The entire 12 videos is very educational.......

    He brings us peace, eternal peace we cannot find here on earth. Just knowing that and He will always provide is what gets me through the day and looking forward to the next......
  • Dennis ... Angeliq... 2010/04/29 00:59:26
    Dennis C Latham
    +1
    I will check this out a little later

    Thanks ....
  • Angeliq... Dennis ... 2010/04/29 01:09:25
    Angelique ~ Pfffft!  ;)~
    +1
    It's interesting....you're welcome
  • Skunk L... Angeliq... 2012/03/22 21:19:15
    Skunk Lover
    +1
    WRONG, you have been fooled.

    The right to travel, unimpeded, and by vehicle on public roadways has been deemed a Constituional and Natural RIGHT of any American citizen - do your research.

    Here, I will get you started:

    CASE #1: "The use of the highway for the purpose of travel and transportation is not a mere privilege, but a common fundamental right of which the public and individuals cannot rightfully be deprived." Chicago Motor Coach v. Chicago, 169 NE 221.

    CASE #2: "The right of the citizen to travel upon the public highways and to transport his property thereon, either by carriage or by automobile, is not a mere privilege which a city may prohibit or permit at will, but a common law right which he has under the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness." Thompson v. Smith, 154 SE 579.

    It could not be stated more directly or conclusively that citizens of the states have a common law right to travel, without approval or restriction (license), and that this right is protected under the U.S Constitution.

    CASE #3: "The right to travel is a part of the liberty of which the citizen cannot be deprived without due process of law under the Fifth Amendment." Kent v. Dulles, 357 US 116, 125.

    CASE #4: "The right to travel is a well-established common right that does not owe its existence to the federal government. It is recognized by the courts as a natural right." Schactman v. Dulles 96 App DC 287, 225 F2d 938, at 941.
  • randy 2010/04/28 21:29:24
    Constitutional
    randy
    I didn't know it was a federal issue.
  • kevracer 2010/04/28 21:28:02
    Constitutional
    kevracer
    +2
    owning and driving a car is not a right, it is a privledge that is earned and must be paid for, through license fees and requirements to have insurance. Insurance for individual private vehicles is in the pulbic good
  • Dennis ... kevracer 2010/04/28 21:30:22
    Dennis C Latham
    +2
    ""owning and driving a car is not a right,""

    I don't have a right to own a car ? if I chose not to drive ?

    I disagree totally .... I will kill anyone who stops me from buying what I want to buy as long as it is legal ....

    are you telling me buying a car is illegal ?
  • Dain Oa... Dennis ... 2010/04/28 21:33:46
    Dain Oakendrill
    +1
    not at all but owning a car is not a right.... if it was every one would own one
  • Dennis ... Dain Oa... 2010/04/28 21:40:12
    Dennis C Latham
    +1
    ""owning a car is not a right.""

    what is it ?

    I'm putting cars in the same category as food

    they sell them in stores.
  • Dain Oa... Dennis ... 2010/04/28 21:42:09
    Dain Oakendrill
    +1
    having food isnt a right either its a luxury... why do think homeless people dont always have food? Its also why for a good amount of food items they actually tax it a little with out public knowledge
  • Dennis ... Dain Oa... 2010/04/28 22:13:47
    Dennis C Latham
    WHAT ??????

    man ... how crooked ....
  • Dain Oa... Dennis ... 2010/04/28 22:14:40
    Dain Oakendrill
    +1
    its the government and taxes what else can you expect from them
  • Dennis ... Dain Oa... 2010/04/28 22:18:28
    Dennis C Latham
    I'm expecting to find a way to get off of their radar and out of their system
  • Dain Oa... Dennis ... 2010/04/28 22:19:36
    Dain Oakendrill
    +1
    hobbit holes in the badlands...... i am seriously thinking about trying to start a community of people who live in the ground through out the bad lands
  • Dennis ... Dain Oa... 2010/04/28 22:50:38
    Dennis C Latham
    ha ha ha ha ha
    I know several places ..... and up north ?
    I know a few people who live underground - 2 stories

    I don't mind paying taxes in the stores
    but it's sickening to pay 10% sales tax in the brokest state in the nation
  • Dain Oa... Dennis ... 2010/04/28 22:52:31
  • Rhea Dennis ... 2010/04/28 23:10:40
    Rhea
    It's a privilege rather than a right. We're not autmatically entitled to drive a car like we are entitled to free speech, religion, assembly, etc.
  • Ray G Rhea 2012/02/28 02:21:40
    Ray G
    +1
    I have the right to do WHATEVER I want as long as I am not stealing from or hurting someone else....period. I own my body and can use or not use it as I see fit.
  • Skunk L... Rhea 2012/03/22 21:59:26
    Skunk Lover
    WRONG.

    CASE #1: "The use of the highway for the purpose of travel and transportation is not a mere privilege, but a common fundamental right of which the public and individuals cannot rightfully be deprived." Chicago Motor Coach v. Chicago, 169 NE 221.

    CASE #2: "The right of the citizen to travel upon the public highways and to transport his property thereon, either by carriage or by automobile, is not a mere privilege which a city may prohibit or permit at will, but a common law right which he has under the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness." Thompson v. Smith, 154 SE 579.

    It could not be stated more directly or conclusively that citizens of the states have a common law right to travel, without approval or restriction (license), and that this right is protected under the U.S Constitution.

    CASE #3: "The right to travel is a part of the liberty of which the citizen cannot be deprived without due process of law under the Fifth Amendment." Kent v. Dulles, 357 US 116, 125.

    CASE #4: "The right to travel is a well-established common right that does not owe its existence to the federal government. It is recognized by the courts as a natural right." Schactman v. Dulles 96 App DC 287, 225 F2d 938, at 941.
  • kevracer Dennis ... 2010/04/28 21:34:17 (edited)
    kevracer
    +1
    'Rights' are the principles of freedom or entitlement either legal, social, or moral in scope.

    The constitution does not grant citizens the right to own a car or hold a driver's license. You are granted a license (after a test),

    You can own a car if you want, but if you wish to drive it on public roads, you must a drivers license and valid insurance.
  • Dennis ... kevracer 2010/04/28 21:41:35
    Dennis C Latham
    +1
    so owning a care is no law against it ....

    but is owning a car
    or buying a car

    a right or a privilege ?
  • kevracer Dennis ... 2010/04/28 22:50:27
    kevracer
    +2
    I don't think the founding fathers included the right to buy a car in the Constitution. However, as it is a publicly offered product, it would be against the civil rights law to prevent you from buying a car, but it is against the law to operate it without insurance.
  • Dennis ... kevracer 2010/04/28 22:53:34 (edited)
    Dennis C Latham
    I wonder what would happen if the people took their land back
    and their roads back

    hell
    when they fix the roads ? They purposely take too long
    and they take their time
    and they never fix them right
    pot holes will stay in the road for years on top of years
  • kevracer Dennis ... 2010/04/28 22:57:01
    kevracer
    +1
    if the government did not maintain the roads- who would?

    Nobody
  • Dennis ... kevracer 2010/04/28 22:59:15
    Dennis C Latham
    +1
    let each community ...... let each district or something

    because I know how bad the city workers and state workers rip the people off.
  • kevracer Dennis ... 2010/04/28 23:01:20
    kevracer
    +1
    go ahead, I'd prefer to pay taxes (through gasoline purchase) and let the state handle it. Road repair and maintanance is a lot harder than it may seem at first........
  • Don Bir... kevracer 2011/12/31 23:29:37
    Don Birkholz
    I don't know why people want to emphasize that driving is not a right. If driving were a right, we would still have mandatory auto insurance laws (which many insurance companies oppose-http://www.centspermil... Second, total up all the people on food stamps due to mandatory auto insurance and all the landlords that get late rent or not at all due to mandatory auto insurance. It is interesting that mandatory health insurance exempts poor people (now get medicaid), and exempts religions opposed to insurance, and mandatory auto insurance does not exempt either, except in Missouri, where religions opposed to insurance can self insure their vehicles. If someone pays 20,000$ per lifetime for mandatory auto insurance and does not have an accident, he is out 20,000$. Now, how do you solve that problem?????????????????????
  • kevracer Don Bir... 2012/01/01 18:01:21
    kevracer
    its the same situation as paying for health insurance and never getting sick- insurance is sort of bet; you're betting you'll need it and hoping you don't
  • Ray G kevracer 2012/02/28 02:26:49
    Ray G
    +1
    Another lazy statist. It would be more efficient for private business to maintain roads...just like railroads and airplanes.
  • Ray G kevracer 2012/02/28 02:25:33
    Ray G
    +1
    There were roads before govt....who made railroads? Private companies. Was it govt that circumnavigated the globe? No.
  • Ray G kevracer 2012/02/28 02:23:45
    Ray G
    The constitution does not 'grant' anyone rights...it acknowledges some of the basic rights we have by virtue of our humanity...and by no means is it an exhaustive list.... read a little...didn't they make u take a constitution test twice in public schools???
  • Skunk L... kevracer 2012/03/22 21:59:45
    Skunk Lover
    WRONG.

    CASE #1: "The use of the highway for the purpose of travel and transportation is not a mere privilege, but a common fundamental right of which the public and individuals cannot rightfully be deprived." Chicago Motor Coach v. Chicago, 169 NE 221.

    CASE #2: "The right of the citizen to travel upon the public highways and to transport his property thereon, either by carriage or by automobile, is not a mere privilege which a city may prohibit or permit at will, but a common law right which he has under the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness." Thompson v. Smith, 154 SE 579.

    It could not be stated more directly or conclusively that citizens of the states have a common law right to travel, without approval or restriction (license), and that this right is protected under the U.S Constitution.

    CASE #3: "The right to travel is a part of the liberty of which the citizen cannot be deprived without due process of law under the Fifth Amendment." Kent v. Dulles, 357 US 116, 125.

    CASE #4: "The right to travel is a well-established common right that does not owe its existence to the federal government. It is recognized by the courts as a natural right." Schactman v. Dulles 96 App DC 287, 225 F2d 938, at 941.
  • Autarchic Dennis ... 2010/04/28 22:25:13
    Autarchic
    +2
    He's another sock puppet. He does not know what he is talking about! I have used my automobile on my roads (public roads) for twenty years with out tags, insurance, or inspections.
  • Dennis ... Autarchic 2010/04/28 22:54:49
    Dennis C Latham
    +1
    well ... I've been forced to have insurance, tags and all the rest

    no choice
  • Autarchic Dennis ... 2010/04/28 22:59:33
    Autarchic
    That is because voluntarily went and registered your automobile. There is no law which requires you to do that, however, financial institutions require you to do that before they will finance it. They are in bed with the state.

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