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Man sues hospital for genital mutilation. Should he get paid?

Foxhound BN0 2012/06/30 17:36:46
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A man in South Dakota is suing the hospital where he was circumcised as a newborn, saying he only recently became aware that he'd undergone the procedure and that it robbed him of his sexual prowess.
28-year-old Dean Cochrun is asking for $1,000 dollars in punitive damages from Sanford Hospital in Sioux Falls. He claims an unknown doctor at the hospital, then named the Sioux Valley Hospital, led his mother to believe the procedure was medically necessary.
He argues the circumcision was not necessary, unethical and without medical benefit.

Should he get paid?

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  • Robbb JohnT 2012/07/01 04:32:45
    Robbb
    +1
    There is definitely an extreme here and that is what needs to be stoped.
  • Anonymouse BN-0 ~bibbityboo~ 2012/06/30 19:48:00
    He should get paid.
    Anonymouse BN-0 ~bibbityboo~
    +2
    If he's worse off because of it and it was unnecessary, yes.
  • Kaimeso 2012/06/30 19:47:56
  • Robbb Kaimeso 2012/06/30 23:03:57
    Robbb
    +1
    You must hang out with some fairly unhygenic characters in that case. By the way how many dozens of menhave you gone down on both intact and mutilated, to be able to make such an expert sounding jugement.
  • Kaimeso Robbb 2012/07/01 02:02:32
    Kaimeso
    +1
    I grew up in the 60's,.. you know, the free love generation. But that is ok, I understand your type,.. extreme judgemental not to mention, jerks.
  • Robbb Kaimeso 2012/07/01 02:21:10
    Robbb
    +1
    That is a coincidence so did I. starting in 1948, And just what is my type? I would be interested to hear.
  • Kaimeso Robbb 2012/07/01 02:25:08 (edited)
  • Robbb Kaimeso 2012/07/01 04:22:32
    Robbb
    +1
    Cat got tongue has it. If reason cant prevail attack.
  • Kaimeso Robbb 2012/07/01 13:55:48
  • Rave Kaimeso 2012/07/01 11:28:59
    Rave
    Some men are very sensitive about their penis, apparently Robbb isn't circumcised and took your comment as a personal insult.
  • Kaimeso Rave 2012/07/01 13:57:39
    Kaimeso
    Funny, I really didn't even consider his penis as part of the exchange. But you are right, some men have their entire identity connected to their penis.
  • Mike 2012/06/30 19:26:42
    He should not get paid.
    Mike
    +3
    Unless someone can specify how exactly this damages a man, I don't think he should be paid... In fact the studies that I am aware of state that a man whom is circumcised suffers less from urinary track infections, staph infections, and has stronger orgasms and more sexual endurance.
  • JohnT Mike 2012/06/30 20:08:32
    JohnT
    +3
    Oh yeah 28 years later, he is kind of slow on the uptake.
  • Robbb Mike 2012/06/30 23:16:35
    Robbb
    +1
    You could not have been looking very hard. Circumcision belongs in the realm of snake oil salesmen and religious fanatics. In any case what you are saying is that it is OK to cut bits of people without their permission. That is ridiculous and a violation of human rights. Next thing you know you will say it is OK for a parent to tattoo things on their children. I understand that people tend to accept things that are done routinely as OK , take the genital mutilation of women in the mid east for example but it is in fact not OK to do any injury to a child.Circumcision Associated with Sexual Difficulties in Men and Women

    A new national survey in Denmark, where about 5% of men are circumcised, examined associations of circumcision with a range of sexual measures in both sexes. Circumcised men were more likely to report frequent orgasm difficulties, and women with circumcised spouses more often reported incomplete sexual needs fulfillment and frequent sexual function difficulties overall, notably orgasm difficulties, and painful sexual intercourse. Thorough examination of these matters in areas where male circumcision is more common is warranted.
    Frisch, M., Lindholm, M., and Grønbæk, M., "Male Circumcision and Sexual Function in Men and Women: A Survey-based, Cross-sectional Study i...








    You could not have been looking very hard. Circumcision belongs in the realm of snake oil salesmen and religious fanatics. In any case what you are saying is that it is OK to cut bits of people without their permission. That is ridiculous and a violation of human rights. Next thing you know you will say it is OK for a parent to tattoo things on their children. I understand that people tend to accept things that are done routinely as OK , take the genital mutilation of women in the mid east for example but it is in fact not OK to do any injury to a child.Circumcision Associated with Sexual Difficulties in Men and Women

    A new national survey in Denmark, where about 5% of men are circumcised, examined associations of circumcision with a range of sexual measures in both sexes. Circumcised men were more likely to report frequent orgasm difficulties, and women with circumcised spouses more often reported incomplete sexual needs fulfillment and frequent sexual function difficulties overall, notably orgasm difficulties, and painful sexual intercourse. Thorough examination of these matters in areas where male circumcision is more common is warranted.
    Frisch, M., Lindholm, M., and Grønbæk, M., "Male Circumcision and Sexual Function in Men and Women: A Survey-based, Cross-sectional Study in Denmark," International Journal of Epidemiology (2011);1–15.
    Circumcision is Associated with Premature Ejaculation

    Premature ejaculation (PE) is common. However, it has been underreported and undertreated. The aim of the study was to determine the prevalence of PE and to investigate possible associated factors of PE. This cross-sectional study was conducted at a primary care clinic over a 3-month period in 2008. Men aged 18-70 years attending the clinic were recruited, and they completed self-administered questionnaires. A total of 207 men were recruited with a response rate of 93.2%. Their mean age was 46.0 years. The prevalence of PE was 40.6%. No significant association was found between age and PE. Multivariate analysis showed that erectile dysfunction, circumcision, and sexual intercourse =5 times in 4 weeks were predictors of PE. These associations need further confirmation.
    Tang, W. and Khoo, E. "Prevalence and Correlates of Premature Ejaculation in a Primary Care Setting: A Preliminary Cross-Sectional Study," Journal of Sexual Medicine (2011) Apr 14.Researchers Demonstrate Traumatic Effects of Circumcision

    A team of Canadian researchers produced new evidence that circumcision has long-lasting traumatic effects. An article published in the international medical journal The Lancet reported the effect of infant circumcision on pain response during subsequent routine vaccination. The researchers tested 87 infants at 4 months or 6 months of age. The boys who had been circumcised were more sensitive to pain than the uncircumcised boys. Differences between groups were significant regarding facial action, crying time, and assessments of pain.

    The authors believe that "neonatal circumcision may induce long-lasting changes in infant pain behavior because of alterations in the infant’s central neural processing of painful stimuli." They also write that "the long-term consequences of surgery done without anaesthesia are likely to include post-traumatic stress as well as pain. It is therefore possible that the greater vaccination response in the infants circumcised without anaesthesia may represent an infant analogue of a post-traumatic stress disorder triggered by a traumatic and painful event and re-experienced under similar circumstances of pain during vaccination."
    Taddio, A. et al., "Effect of Neonatal Circumcision on Pain Response during Subsequent Routine Vaccination," The Lancet 349 (1997): 599–603.
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  • Mike Robbb 2012/07/02 15:43:16
  • Robbb Mike 2012/07/03 11:10:05
    Robbb
    +1
    I thought the US had freedom of religion. and freedom from religion as well.
    The First Amendment (Amendment I) to the United States Constitution is part of the Bill of Rights. The amendment prohibits the making of any law respecting an establishment of religion, impeding the free exercise of religion, abridging the freedom of speech, infringing on the freedom of the press, interfering with the right to peaceably assemble or prohibiting the petitioning for a governmental redress of grievances.
    What you are sugesting is that the state should be complisit in asaulting a child on the grounds of its parents religion.(The amendment prohibits the making of any law respecting an establishment of religion) I sugest we are speaking about freedom from religion here. PERHAPS YOU DONT UNDERSTAND THE IMPLICATION.
  • Mike Robbb 2012/07/04 19:14:53 (edited)
    Mike
    You just showed where we have freedom OF RELIGION, but you have failed to point out where it says folks are free FROM religion, I'll even settle with you pointing out in the Constitution where it states SEPARATION. The fact is, you can't, because it doesn't exist. The US was founded on the grounds of equal liberties to all religions, and atheism (the lack of religion thereof) was just deemed by the SCOTUS to be RELIGION. That means any VOID of religion is to endorse Atheism -- and those laws are indeed "respecting an establishment".

    The amendment prohibits the making of any law respecting an establishment of religion, impeding the free exercise of religion


    Now keeping in mind that Atheism is an official religion now - you tell me what is happening.

    TO THE TOPIC: I have never heard of a child under the age of 14 that had constitutional rights that his/her legal guardians (notice that the legal word of Guardian goes both ways, to guard the child, and to guard society) didn't voluntarily extend to them. That's a fact, Jack.
  • jubil8 BN-0 PON 2012/06/30 19:21:43 (edited)
    He should not get paid.
    jubil8 BN-0 PON
    +6
    Imo any 28-yo man who is so clueless that he didn't know until "recently" that he'd been circumcised has a problem with prowess that goes beyond his foreskin.

    If it turns out that he was damaged by sloppy cutting (or something), that would be different. But the article doesn't say that.

    If he isn't successful against the hospital, maybe he could sue his mother.
  • mwg0735 2012/06/30 19:17:17
  • coolguy mwg0735 2012/11/23 06:59:29
    coolguy
    Against his own will
  • mwg0735 coolguy 2012/11/24 04:40:24
  • coolguy mwg0735 2012/11/24 16:43:02
    coolguy
    there should be a 18 and up rule
  • M A 2012/06/30 19:14:17
    He should not get paid.
    M A
    +6
    He needs a solid kick in the balls, and his low life lawyer too
  • Mike M A 2012/06/30 19:28:19
    Mike
    +1
    Maybe this is what the case is about? Maybe the knife slipped and sterilized him...?
  • jubil8 ... M A 2012/07/01 03:34:26
    jubil8 BN-0 PON
    +1
    Well, that would finish off the prowess problem for sure. :)
  • ScottyG - Faqueue 2012/06/30 19:06:41
    He should not get paid.
    ScottyG - Faqueue
    +1
    Good luck with that. It's the practice not the exception. It's mom's fault too. Sue her as well.

    And his name is Cochrun, how damn ironic!
  • goblue1968 2012/06/30 19:05:24
    He should get paid.
    goblue1968
    +3
    But he should only get paid if he wins his lawsuit. I'd like to be at the trial where he presents his case to convince a judge or a jury that the circumcision "robbed him of his sexual prowess". The evidence he will "show" for that argument might be very interesting!
  • Foxhoun... goblue1968 2012/06/30 19:17:45
    Foxhound BN0
    +5
    Exhibit A your honor!
    exhibit honor
  • goblue1968 Foxhoun... 2012/07/02 00:05:45
    goblue1968
    Is that some new kind of sushi? Is the wasabi nearby?
  • jubil8 ... goblue1968 2012/07/01 03:37:14
    jubil8 BN-0 PON
    +2
    Thinking about the jury call for that trial: "I don't think I can be impartial, Your Honor -- I'm lmao already, and the testimony hasn't even started yet." :)
  • NEVER FORGET, NEVER FORGIVE... 2012/06/30 19:04:42
  • Robbb NEVER F... 2012/06/30 23:29:15
    Robbb
    +1
    How many? Over 80% of the worlds men have intact genitalia. You would think that it would have caught on by now when you consider that the practice has been done for religious reasons for over 4.000 years. You sound like you don’t have a great deal of experience in these matters. I any case is it not really up to him to make the decision that modifies his penis? How would you feel about having your labia lips removed shortly after you are born because after al it is being done to a lot of other girls in your area if you happen to live in the middle east.
  • jubil8 ... Robbb 2012/07/01 03:42:34
    jubil8 BN-0 PON
    +1
    I don't see suing the hospital for doing it nearly 30 years later. The issue isn't the surgery itself, it's the fact that he's claiming loss of prowess. Who's to say he'd have had any anyway?

    Maybe he should see a therapist or a circulatory specialist before rushing to sue.
  • Robbb jubil8 ... 2012/07/01 04:30:55
    Robbb
    +1
    That is like saying that if they take out an arm that is isn’t the surgery that is the problem or the surgeon or the oversight of the hospital but the claim that now he cant pick anything up with it. Perhaps a therapist can teach him to levitate. However there is no denying that circumcision damages the glans and removes a comparatively huge amount of erogenous tissue. And no one has the right to slice into any person without their permission and take that away. No mater how many people think it is alright.
  • jubil8 ... Robbb 2012/07/01 19:31:05
    jubil8 BN-0 PON
    I didn't mean a physical therapist, I meant a psychotherapist -- maybe his "prowess" issues aren't physical (if they exist at all -- maybe he's just a dork).

    Parents have the LEGAL RIGHT AND RESPONSIBILITY to authorize medical procedures for their children.

    How could he know if his prowess was affected since he was circumcised before he had any? If he'd had an adult sex life, then had a procedure that resulted in reduced "prowess," I'd say "Go get 'em, Bucko!" If he THINKS (hopes?) he'd have been more "proficient" without circumcision, I don't think that's grounds for a lawsuit -- certainly not for a financial award. Is he hoping to buy improved prowess if he's successful?
  • Robbb jubil8 ... 2012/07/01 20:19:53
    Robbb
    +1
    But circumcision is not a medically necessary procedure unless the foreskin is diseased. as a mater of fact many circumcisions are done by people that have no medical qualifications at al aside from training in circumcision , take the Jewish mohel for example. In any case as the foreskin has more then 20.000 nerve ends making it a major erogenous zone and as it is necessary to tear the foreskin from the glans at that age because they are still fused together like the finger and the fingernail I would say there are definite PHYSICAL CONSQUENCES. As for having a sex life just masturbating is harder and les satisfying. Besides no one ever had a right to make that judgement for him, whether it was out of malice, or out of sheer ignorance.
  • jubil8 ... Robbb 2012/07/01 23:54:20
    jubil8 BN-0 PON
    Circumcision has been common in the U.S. for MANY years. My father was circumcised, my husband was circumcised, every man I've ever "known" except one was circumcised. You're not IN the U.S., the man suing a hospital for a standard procedure that his mother approved when he was a couple of days old IS in the U.S. And I'll bet his father was circumcised too. And any brothers if he has any. And his uncles and male neighbors.

    Enough of this. If he has a legit medical issue, I'm all for his getting relief (in any way appropriate). Based on info available, his lawsuit is a crock. Have a nice day.
  • Robbb jubil8 ... 2012/07/02 09:57:04
    Robbb
    +1
    You are going to see a lot more law suits in the near future because the Law of the US is being conveniently overlooked. It is illegal to assault children; it is as simple as that. I think is is covered in the preamble of your constitution.
  • Julian 2012/06/30 18:56:32
    He should get paid.
    Julian
    +2
    If the procedure was done because the hospital made his mother believe it was medically necessary when in fact it was not, then I think he may have a case. If anything it might cause the hospital to think twice before misinforming parents in the future.
  • AmyMah 2012/06/30 18:50:00
    He should get paid.
    AmyMah
    +2
    having bits of his dick cut off ....uck

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