Malaysia Airlines to Ban Babies From Traveling in First Class: Fair?

by SodaHead Fun Posted 2011/06/28 10:40:16

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There are no shortage of trolls online, especially when the topic of flying comes up on any news website around the world. The members of our populations that get the biggest beating in online comments about annoyances when flying are children and babies. Well, looks like Malaysian Airlines has been listening.

Malasian Airlines is to ban babies traveling in first class on the airline's new Airbus A380 and Boeing 747-400 fleet.

So what about the parents of said children who can afford to, and prefer to fly first class? Do they send the children to economy with the nanny? What do you think, is it fair to ban babies and children from first class?

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LifeIsComedyPHAET 2011/06/28 17:05:32

Fair enough

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We pay extra to fly in comfort, not to hear a baby screaming it's lungs out because it's ears are popping from the altitude shift or just because they're bored.

Toddlers should be banned as well, I'm sick of paying extra to sit in first class only to spend the following hours having some snotty 3 year old kicking the back of my seat or running up and down the aisles while their parents do nothing because they think it's "cute".
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famen 2011/07/24 10:52:55

Fair enough

do baby mind in which class did they travel??

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walter2008 2011/06/29 19:37:10 (edited)

Fair enough

I agree, most people book first class for the extra space, quiet, and sometimes less distractions in order to WORK. So take the crying babies on back to coach, preferably in one of the last rows, because most of us don't really want to wait until you gather up all of your "baby equipment". We may have short connections on our next flight.

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FantasyAuthor 2011/06/29 14:31:30

Undecided

So long as the baby doesn't cry than that is fine to have a baby in first class. If the baby cries than couch!

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GaolBlaze 2011/06/29 14:28:16
petey77 to GaolBlaze 2011/06/29 22:13:08

I hate wearing ear-plugs, or ear-phones. Besides, they don't REALLY block the cacophonous noise of a crying, wailing, shrieking, screaming baby. Plus, I want to hear the pilot's announcements and communicate with my steward-person.

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GaolBlaze to petey77 2011/06/30 22:08:09

Well then you be picky and fussy but deal with the children. It's unreasonable to ask them to leave first class.

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petey77 to GaolBlaze 2011/07/01 17:32:29 (edited)

Looks like not many people agree with you. Check the poll results. Babies will all eventually be banned from First-Class. SANITY will prevail.

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GaolBlaze to petey77 2011/07/02 20:33:23

Then the world we live in is a sad, sad place...

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Hey_Jude1961 2011/06/29 13:53:14

Fair enough

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If I'm going to spend the dollars to fly first class, I'm not going to want to listen to a baby cry, or a toddler whine, all through the flight. I feel the same way about going to a nice restaurant. I have nothing against kids, have 3 grown sons myself, but when they were little and still learning how to behave in public, we did not take them to places where they would bother other people with their age appropriate behavior. I can't tell you how many times I've been out for a nice meal only to have someone else's children making a scene and spoiling my peaceful dinner. Take them to McDonald's until they're old enough to sit through a meal without causing a scene.

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ale 2011/06/29 13:47:16

Far out

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parent should be able to fly comfortably in a plane ride with their babies.

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petey77 to ale 2011/06/29 22:15:51

That's an oxy-moron.

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ed 2011/06/29 13:44:31

Fair enough

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Babies don't need to fly first class---coach is more appropriate anyway.

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ELLIE 2011/06/29 13:43:34 (edited)

Far out

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They should open a similar first class for parents with children,otherwise the air line will go bust eventually if they discriminate against families with young children.

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Briana83 2011/06/29 13:42:50

Far out

If a person with a baby can pay for a seat for that child, let them. However, there should be rules. If the child can't behave, make them switch seats with some people in coach! Also, if you're rich enough to fly first class, get yourself one of those fancy pairs of noise-canceling headphones!

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petey77 to Briana83 2011/06/29 22:21:44 (edited)

I hate using head-phones!! They don't REALLY cancel the noise. I also want to hear the pilot's announcements and communicate with my steward-person. Do you mind? Would you rather ruin the flight for 40 people in First Class, or a baby and it's parents? I think I know your answer.

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bluelady 2011/06/29 13:36:30

Undecided

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isnt that discrimination??? If I am a Mom or a Dad with enough to purchase the second ticket..but they wont let my child fly in with me??? I see someones business takin a hit.

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Hey_Jud... to bluelady 2011/06/29 13:57:20

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They didn't say the child couldn't fly with you. You are free to fly coach with your child. Discrimination would be to say that you couldn't fly at all because of some characteristic you couldn't change.

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bluelady to Hey_Jud... 2011/06/30 11:40:22

sorry, sounds like back of the bus to me

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WF - Rumpelstiltskin -PWCM~JLA 2011/06/29 12:44:14

Fair enough

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good

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Steph 2011/06/29 12:26:33

Undecided

It's fair enough in a way, people pay a lot extra to fly in peace and comfort. However, if the parents can afford to pay to fly in first class then why not, free country

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Bothergirl 2011/06/29 12:17:48 (edited)

Fair enough

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Hey if I have to buy 2 seats because I have a big booty then I say no whiny babies.
There should be a special area for parents with kids 5 and under.

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petey77 to Bothergirl 2011/06/29 23:15:38

Yes!! Yes!! A special section right at the back of the plane.

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Tom Harvey 2011/06/29 11:34:59

Fair enough

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The whole point of travelling first class is to have a relaxing, luxurious flight. Babies disrupt that, and while some parents might think this unfair of the airline, it is unfair of them to annoy everyone who paid out the wazoo to have the best flight possible

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Mike 2011/06/29 11:31:41

Fair enough

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Children have no business in 1st Class -- I'm sure all great parents envying a dollar wants their kids to ride in the same area where businessmen and women are getting drunk off their arses from free liqueur and campaign.

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walter.mckibben220 2011/06/29 10:59:32

Undecided

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I would be very very unhappy to pay extra money in order to fly in comfort and then be forced to endure a misbehaved child or children during the flight.

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myhouseinthewoods 2011/06/29 09:09:04

Far out

not fair what so ever, so if I get a first class ticket and act like a baby ill be removed too huh, how dumb

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walter.... to myhouse... 2011/06/29 10:20:12

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It would be absolutly grand if you could learn how to write a few words that made sense.

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myhouse... to walter.... 2011/06/29 20:44:07

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what do you mean, that kinda makes sense lol, maybe your trying to read it too fast :P

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petey77 to myhouse... 2011/06/29 23:25:18

What you wrote is JUST FINE. He's just bitter. Also, he mis-spelt the word "absolutely." Have a great day. :-)

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myhouse... to petey77 2011/07/01 20:55:57

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ha thanks, you too :)

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sue 2011/06/29 08:00:22

Undecided

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I don'think it's fair, because some children are well behaved, and as the parent of two experienced well behaved flyers, the last thing I need is for some idiot's kid who is running up and down the aisle waking my kids up. Well behaved kids have just as much right to sit in expensive seats if their parents can afford them than other people do. They pay the same price. Rarely can I afford upgrades for all of us though, and I do sympathize, because I don't want to sit with bratty kids either.

The real problem is not the children. It's the parents. While parents of babies cannot be blamed if the child cries when they wake up or need changing, or if the child's ears pop on take off or landing, it is possible to prepare for it. I always nursed at take off and landing, and neither of my kids cried. We fly a lot. Also, since kids board early, I have shown both of my kids what it feels like to have someone kicking the back of their seat. I know the flight attendant on one flight thought I was nuts punching the seat until she realized I was demonstrating how uncomfortable that is to my son. Also, take your kids shoes off, because at certain heights, they can't help but touch the seat every once in a while by accident since their legs stick straight out instead of bending. Do not let ...

I don'think it's fair, because some children are well behaved, and as the parent of two experienced well behaved flyers, the last thing I need is for some idiot's kid who is running up and down the aisle waking my kids up. Well behaved kids have just as much right to sit in expensive seats if their parents can afford them than other people do. They pay the same price. Rarely can I afford upgrades for all of us though, and I do sympathize, because I don't want to sit with bratty kids either.

The real problem is not the children. It's the parents. While parents of babies cannot be blamed if the child cries when they wake up or need changing, or if the child's ears pop on take off or landing, it is possible to prepare for it. I always nursed at take off and landing, and neither of my kids cried. We fly a lot. Also, since kids board early, I have shown both of my kids what it feels like to have someone kicking the back of their seat. I know the flight attendant on one flight thought I was nuts punching the seat until she realized I was demonstrating how uncomfortable that is to my son. Also, take your kids shoes off, because at certain heights, they can't help but touch the seat every once in a while by accident since their legs stick straight out instead of bending. Do not let your kid play with the tray. up or down, no changes for at least half an hour is our rule. Bring toys that are quiet or a portable dvd player or crayons. Whatever shuts the kid up for a good long time. Also, brink snacks -- increasingly difficult since not liquids or gels are allowed, but still possible. And, importantly, don't let your kid act like an a@@. Frankly, I have sat in front of and next to some adults that are more annoying than my kids.

I think that parents who don't take at least some steps to prepare and then don't discipline their kids deserve to have the flight attendant or other passengers speak to them. It's like anyone else with some annoying behavior -- say something and do yourself and your fellow passengers a favor.
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walter.... to sue 2011/06/29 10:53:51

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You sound like a responsible parent. That seems to be harder and harder to find these days. When I was a baby/youngster my father would not permit me to bother others. Most parents in that age made sure their offspring behaved. Behaving did no harm to these youngsters as they grew into adulthood. It's sad that some pseudo psychologists have convinced the present generation, parents and schools, that "repression" of a childs desire to express him/her self would do harm. If I didn't behave in school I was asked to bend over and grab my ankels and in front of a witness I was given one or more paddles depending on how badly I had misbehaved. My parents were notified and I usually got another paddling at home. I'm appalled at the way many children are permitted to behave in public in this generation.

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Hey_Jud... to sue 2011/06/29 14:02:17

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Unfortunately, you are in the minority of parenting thought anymore. Too many parents think every little thing their child does is cute and acceptable. We worried more about how our children's behavior was going to affect others and taught them to be considerate of others, much like you've described, but I don't see too many people that do that anymore. And if you say anything, they'll give you an earful and tell you to MYOB.

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sue to Hey_Jud... 2011/07/02 08:36:10

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True. I once had a kid kneeling next tome ont he subway blowing a whistle right in my ear. I tried to get the mom's attention, because she was avoiding eye contact on purpose. But then I just said to the kid, "Excuse me, but that really hurts my ear. Do you think you could stop?" And then the mom all of a sudden noticed and yelled at me! "Are you talking to my son?" I said that I had tried to talk to her, but she would not turn around. Some older woman across the aisle said, "you should be thankful she said something before somebody else slapped it out of his mouth!' Everybody laughed, so she just shut up after that.

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walter2008 to sue 2011/06/29 19:40:53

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Uh, they said BABIES, not CHILDREN, can you not read?

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sue to walter2008 2011/07/02 08:32:36

Babies also cry less when parents are prepared. If you read the whole post, you would see that if they are nursing or eating at take off they often do not cry, because it's the air pressure in their ears that makes them do so. Also, if you bring toys and entertain them, they don't cry. It's not as sure of a thing with babies, but it works, as I said. For airline purposes, a baby is age 0 to 2 years.

Maybe you should read more carefully before criticizing others.

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Nudenz 2011/06/29 07:35:25

Fair enough

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That's one of the reasons people fly First Class so they don't have to listen to crying babies.

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tewaz1 2011/06/29 07:30:32

Fair enough

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It's about time people learn that no one is obligated to make special concessions or endure inconvenience just because some people decide to procreate. Once you have a baby, life stops being about you. Take your child on a trip when they are able to function in society, until then, stay home or get a babysitter.

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petey77 2011/06/29 07:17:43 (edited)

Fair enough

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The perfect solution is to create a seperate chamber or section right at the back of the plane for babies and their parents. In this sound-proof chamber, babies may cry, shriek, scream and wail to their little heart's content. And parents of the babies, make sure that you "bond" with your little treasures and totally enjoy the experience. Finally, all of you people who voted "Far Out" would be more than welcome to visit this "babies chamber" and experience first-hand the cacophonous noise for yourself. So, what do you say? Any takers? Hey, you guys, come back here! Why are you running away? Come baaaaack!!!

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sapphire_love_life 2011/06/29 05:58:53

Fair enough

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Babies cry and scream and kick. You cant guarantee a baby to be silent on the whole plane ride unless its knocked out. People pay extra money to be in a more comfortable, more PEACEFUL place which is not a place where babies are screaming.

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