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Mac Users Are Being Directed to Pricier Hotels on Travel Site: Fair or Foul?

Chris D 2012/06/26 18:00:00
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Mac users may be more well-off, but should they be directed to hotels that cost more?(Reuters) - Orbitz Worldwide Inc has found that people who use Apple Inc's Mac computers spend as much as 30 percent more per night on hotels, so the online travel agency is starting to show them different and sometimes costlier, travel options than Windows visitors see, the Wall Street Journal reported on Monday

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  • Rachel Jay 2012/06/28 14:21:42
    Rachel
    You stated that most people you know are rich OR college students. So the college students you know are rich? Some sure, but all of them? You contradicted yourself - you first stated that most Mac users you know "are rich asses or collage students" and now you're saying they are just rich... I was simply going off by what you had originally said and I think it's ridiculous that you think that 1) buying a Mac is to show off, 2) it's a staple of money, and 3) that somehow a rich person buying a Mac is to show off and therefore they need to pay more (what kind of messed up, unethical logic is that?), but somehow most college students having Macs is okay and thus this is unfair to them...

    So, to go through:

    1) Buying a Mac is not necessarily to show off. It can be certainly, but no more than any person who buys a large TV, or spends over a thousand on their PCs. So the people who have good gaming machines or systems built for design work are showing off and they deserve to pay more? And why in the world would showing off mean you should pay more? That's completely heinous.

    2) Along the same lines as #1, a Mac is no more a staple of money than any other computer over $1000 is a staple of money. And buy stating such a thing, you are completely overlooking that many people receive Macs ...









    You stated that most people you know are rich OR college students. So the college students you know are rich? Some sure, but all of them? You contradicted yourself - you first stated that most Mac users you know "are rich asses or collage students" and now you're saying they are just rich... I was simply going off by what you had originally said and I think it's ridiculous that you think that 1) buying a Mac is to show off, 2) it's a staple of money, and 3) that somehow a rich person buying a Mac is to show off and therefore they need to pay more (what kind of messed up, unethical logic is that?), but somehow most college students having Macs is okay and thus this is unfair to them...

    So, to go through:

    1) Buying a Mac is not necessarily to show off. It can be certainly, but no more than any person who buys a large TV, or spends over a thousand on their PCs. So the people who have good gaming machines or systems built for design work are showing off and they deserve to pay more? And why in the world would showing off mean you should pay more? That's completely heinous.

    2) Along the same lines as #1, a Mac is no more a staple of money than any other computer over $1000 is a staple of money. And buy stating such a thing, you are completely overlooking that many people receive Macs as GIFTS, or they are using these machines at school or work, or they splurged to purchase them, or they need it to keep themselves competitive in their career field. Apple only has about 10% of the personal computer market. That means that most of the 90% is Windows. I bet there are as many or more Windows users with computers that are expensive as Macs than Mac users. So, by that logic Windows users also deserve to pay more.

    3) If a rich person is buying a Mac to show off then there's no reason to think that a college student is also buying a Mac to show off. So, by your logic, why is it unfair to a college student but fair to a rich person?

    The point though that I was trying to make is that there are more Mac users than those you know and while some of the ones you know are "rich asses" there are apparently, going by your first statement, some that aren't. There are obviously many others that aren't that you *don't* know. Your analysis of the situation should be greater than the little bubble you live in and you should realize that this impacts more than the relatively view people you know that you've apparently stereotyped in your head. Therefore, your decision that this is fair because there are Mac users that are rich is ridiculous because this has the large potential of affecting the non-rich Mac users as well.

    People hate on Apple fan-boys, but there is a huge group of people who are just as absurd that are Apple-haters who like to stereotype people who buy Apple products. You people need to realize that, firstly, a personal purchase is none of anyone else's business but the buyer's, and, secondly, Macs have significantly more use and value than what people stereotype them as. I have had four laptops in my life and about three desktops. To compared apples to apples (no pun intended): My Dell XPS and Alienware laptops were both about $2000 *each*. All of my laptops were paid with school loans, which is the only way I could have afforded them, but by the logic of spending money, that would mean that my Windows machines are the ones that should be triggering the higher priced hotels, not my Mac.

    The Alienware was crap and died within 1.5 years. My Dell is awesome and I've had it for about 4-5 years. My Mac is about 2-3 years old I think and it's the machine I use the most. I prefer it for handling my photos and doing day to day activities on it. It's the computer I take to school with me because it has significantly better battery life than my Dell and is lighter and therefore more portable. I much more prefer the commands on my Mac, my scroll pad, the body and keys, the screen, the app market and app integration, etc compared to my Dell. My Dell however is a powerhouse and it handles my gaming, though my Mac can handle that okay too (and comes built in for me to video my game-play). Organizationally, my Dell is better and there are certain files that handle better on Windows than on Mac OS. Pros and cons to both machines but for my daily life, considering the time I spend on the computer, it is way worth paying the extra money for my Mac and enjoying the experience with the least amount of headache than saving a few hundred dollars and having to deal with a system that I don't find as easy to use.

    And in regards to pay for men and women, yes, on *average* men tend to get paid more than women, dollar per dollar. Much of that is due to non-discriminatory reasons, but in the end, men are still making more averagely: http://www.businessweek.com/a...
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  • Jay Rachel 2012/06/28 15:32:29
    Jay
    Woah, there. This is what we call verbal diarrhea. MY POINT: People who buy and use macs should be charged more. Reason: They have more money then other people. If they don't have more money they are trying to look like they do, they are designers, or just plain stupid. there is nothing a mac can do that a PC can't do better. However I'm sure your mac looks very pretty. I bet you believe that global warming is real,too. main message to you: chill out. In the end, you're just another MAC user. AKA the retard computer.
  • Rachel Jay 2012/06/28 19:52:40
    Rachel
    Your point is completely irrational and disgusting. Reason:

    1) Not all Mac users make more money. I personally make about $10/hr. My boyfriend, who is a Windows user, makes $20/hr. See the difference?

    2) Having more money doesn't mean you should be charged more. WTF is wrong with people who think this? Everyone should be charged the same for the same product. The websites, though, aren't charging more per room, they are just offering the more expensive hotels first in some situations.

    3) Owning a Mac doesn't mean you are trying to look like you have money. It means you either need the machine for a specific use, or you like it. You can like it for a variety of reasons that are COMPLETELY unrelated to trends/designs/Apple-koolaid/...

    4) Macs are the preferred machines for photo, video, and sound editing, for art and design, etc. My Windows machine cannot integrate applications as smoothly into my daily use as my Mac can. Even World of Warcraft, which my Windows machine does handle better, has the added bonus of having the video recording feature stock with the Mac. For my Dell, I'd have to download Fraps or another like program. I am also significantly less likely to get a virus, not necessarily because of the computer itself, but at least because it pays more for virus-creators ...

    Your point is completely irrational and disgusting. Reason:

    1) Not all Mac users make more money. I personally make about $10/hr. My boyfriend, who is a Windows user, makes $20/hr. See the difference?

    2) Having more money doesn't mean you should be charged more. WTF is wrong with people who think this? Everyone should be charged the same for the same product. The websites, though, aren't charging more per room, they are just offering the more expensive hotels first in some situations.

    3) Owning a Mac doesn't mean you are trying to look like you have money. It means you either need the machine for a specific use, or you like it. You can like it for a variety of reasons that are COMPLETELY unrelated to trends/designs/Apple-koolaid/...

    4) Macs are the preferred machines for photo, video, and sound editing, for art and design, etc. My Windows machine cannot integrate applications as smoothly into my daily use as my Mac can. Even World of Warcraft, which my Windows machine does handle better, has the added bonus of having the video recording feature stock with the Mac. For my Dell, I'd have to download Fraps or another like program. I am also significantly less likely to get a virus, not necessarily because of the computer itself, but at least because it pays more for virus-creators to focus on Windows machines than Macs. That is of course changing as more and more people switch to Macs. Controls on the Mac are easier to use, imo. Notice how Windows machines are more and more creating Mac-like controls for the newer computers, as well as Mac-like scroll pads and buttons? I can more seamlessly connect to some wireless devices than I can on my Windows machine. My Mac recognizes a printer, for example, automatically downloads the drivers, and voila! I can print with little hassle. Many Windows machines, or at least the many I've used throughout my life, require that the user find the drivers, install them themselves, in order to have access to the device. I have less heating issues as well. My Dell and Alienware both got incredibly hot to the point it was painful to touch. I don't have this issue with my Mac - they say it's partly because of the material that the case is made with, but I'm not sure. Plus, there's the bonus that it's one company making several types of devices (phone, tablet, music player, Apple TV, etc) and your computer seamlessly integrates and syncs with all of them and the Cloud. Etc, etc, etc.

    Each OS has its pros and cons. I like both for different uses, so I own both. I would never try to spend the money to get a competitive Mac gaming machine because I could buy a significantly better device with Windows for the same price. However, for daily use, I absolutely love my Mac, despite the price. I'm sorry though that you're biased and just another Apple-hater with generalizations and absolute statements mostly driving your arguments. I wasn't a fan of Apple at all until I gave it a try (school forced me to). Took me a while to get used to the difference in controls, but once I did, I ended up really enjoying it. /shrug
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  • Jay Rachel 2012/06/29 13:26:31
    Jay
    so..you're an art major? and you play word of warcraft..-_- enough said. There aren't as many viruses for Mac because the people who make viruses already feel sad enough for mac users. If you make so little money, maybe if you didn't waste the money on a mac you could afford more things that you really need. If your school made you buy a mac then your obviously on the wrong career path.
  • Rachel Jay 2012/06/29 15:46:23
    Rachel
    I'm not an art major. I'm a business and government major. And, yes, I do play WoW. Nothing wrong with that; it's a fun game. Do you do nothing but judge people?

    My school didn't make me buy a Mac. My school forced me to get used to one because the language labs I took, which are required for my majors, were held in a computer room that was Mac-only. I think one of my writing courses were also in a Mac-only computer room.

    "There aren't as many viruses for Mac because the people who make viruses already feel sad enough for mac users." Really? That was a retarded statement. Really shows your childishness.

    I used school loans to pay for my Mac, as I've said. Had I paid for it out of pocket, it wouldn't have detracted from anything I truly needed. I meet my bills and I already have everything I need materialistically. I simply wouldn't have been able to things I wanted to do for a while as I paid it off.

    Have fun with your small-world biased bubble. It's pathetic, truly, that you can be so hateful towards a brand that you can't see its many uses and that you must label the users/buyers in a way that makes you feel superior. Good job at acting like a 3 year-old, and have fun trolling.
  • Jay Rachel 2012/06/29 16:53:43
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  • dePSyChO 2012/06/27 12:09:13
    Fair
    dePSyChO
    +3
    If you're going to be smug and buy an expensive machine for the brand and the logo (there's nothing a Mac can do that a PC can't do better, or just as good), you can afford a pricier hotel.
  • Rachel dePSyChO 2012/06/27 14:18:04
    Rachel
    That's total BS. I have both a Windows machine, one that was twice the price of my Mac btw, and a 13" Mac. I prefer my mac for almost all things daily. I like the commands better, the app market and app integration, the battery life (cuz when I bought this Mac, finding a Windows machine with 7+ hours of battery life was hard), its weight (at the time only a few Windows machines were so light and they were closely priced to the Mac if I remember correctly), even the scroll pad. There are certain things my Dell is better for, but there are certain things, many things, that I just find easier on my Mac.

    You assume many things and add to the stereotype of Mac users. My Mac was purchased for use at a time that Windows machine had difficulty providing the features I needed. Since then, I've fallen hard for Macs themselves and will continue to be a Mac user because I enjoy it. That does not mean however that I can afford pricier hotels merely because I own a Mac. By the price of my two machines (both purchased through school loans a couple of years apart btw), you should assume that I'm "rich" from my Dell, not my Mac. Regardless, should men, since they tend to make more than women, be assumed to be able to afford pricier hotels? What about whites? They make, on average, significantly more than blacks and hispanics. Making such assumptions is just heinous.
  • dePSyChO Rachel 2012/06/27 14:46:56
    dePSyChO
    +2
    With your talk of apps and the like, I'm going to assume that you're a pretty casual user - facebook, some apps, netflix, maybe angry birds. If that's what you do, then yeah, I bet your Mac works great. But when you get down to the nitty gritty and the like, a Windows machine that dual boots (with Mac and perhaps Linux as the other OS's) is much better. And sure, you like the "design" of the Mac better (the scrollpad sucks, in my opinion) but that doesn't make it better.

    I don't stereotype Mac users; every Mac user I know follows all of the stereotypes themselves. And generally, if you have 1000+ to throw down on an inferior computer, you probably do have enough money for a somewhat pricier hotel. As for the racial and gender issues - those go into bad territories. It'd be racist and sexist to discriminate that way. You can't be computer-ist.
  • Rachel dePSyChO 2012/06/27 22:13:12
    Rachel
    Apparently one can be computer-ist these days. When clients are treated differently by what computer they use, that's discrimination of some kind. It's as if someone walking with a Coach purse were given the higher priced options when someone without that purse were given the regular options. It's wrong. The travel agencies don't know the circumstances of why that person is using a Mac. Perhaps it was a gift, perhaps it was a school or work computer, perhaps it's a friend's computer, perhaps it was their one splurge in an otherwise simple life, perhaps it was a relatively necessary purchase for their career to keep the person competitive in their field. None of these things are taken into consideration when people label Mac users as either money-wasters or rich and were certainly not taken into consideration in these companies' change in policy.

    And yes I am a pretty casual user. I pretty much just Internet browse, use Office, organize, read, watch videos, listen to music, etc. My Dell is for gaming (specifically World of Warcraft, which I understand is not that intensive of a game), my Mac is for everyday simple stuff. "Better", though, is a very relative term. My Dell is the better machine spec-wise, but it also cost about double what my Mac did. For ease of use, imo of cours...

    Apparently one can be computer-ist these days. When clients are treated differently by what computer they use, that's discrimination of some kind. It's as if someone walking with a Coach purse were given the higher priced options when someone without that purse were given the regular options. It's wrong. The travel agencies don't know the circumstances of why that person is using a Mac. Perhaps it was a gift, perhaps it was a school or work computer, perhaps it's a friend's computer, perhaps it was their one splurge in an otherwise simple life, perhaps it was a relatively necessary purchase for their career to keep the person competitive in their field. None of these things are taken into consideration when people label Mac users as either money-wasters or rich and were certainly not taken into consideration in these companies' change in policy.

    And yes I am a pretty casual user. I pretty much just Internet browse, use Office, organize, read, watch videos, listen to music, etc. My Dell is for gaming (specifically World of Warcraft, which I understand is not that intensive of a game), my Mac is for everyday simple stuff. "Better", though, is a very relative term. My Dell is the better machine spec-wise, but it also cost about double what my Mac did. For ease of use, imo of course, in regards to the other things I listed that I like to do, my Mac tends to nicer to use. Plus, it's more portable and has the longer battery life, though nowadays Windows machines are much competitive in regards to those two features than they were a few years back when my Mac was purchased. I'm on my computer for hours and hours each day, so I would rather spend more on a machine that does what I want with less headache, then spend less on a machine that may have certain other capabilities, like dual-boot (which can be done, rather easily I've heard, on a Mac) that I would never use.

    Lastly, there are Windows computers that are hella expensive - most people I know who game for example have Windows machines and they are typically about as expensive as a Mac. So, dollar per dollar those people are just as likely to be able to afford those more expensive hotels, if the logic is based on wealth and computer costs.
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  • Gordon 2012/06/27 12:05:49
    Foul
    Gordon
    +2
    Profiling is illegal if used on blacks, so why would it be OK on Mac users?
  • Ruby De... Gordon 2012/06/27 13:27:26
  • Gordon Ruby De... 2012/06/27 13:55:01
    Gordon
    It is obvious from your vulgar language that you're unable to speak English very well. Very sad!
  • Ruby De... Gordon 2012/06/27 14:01:53
    Ruby Dear - The Fangirl of PHAET
    +1
    Why would it be sad if I spoke English poorly? It's one language in a world of many.

    I used no vulgar language. I used a jpeg with vulgar language. How exactly does a picture say anything about my vocabulary?
  • Gordon Ruby De... 2012/06/28 16:37:31
    Gordon
    You selected the picture that contained vulgar language. Do you take responsability for your actions?

    What languages do you speak, read & write fluently?
  • Ruby De... Gordon 2012/06/28 16:56:22
    Ruby Dear - The Fangirl of PHAET
    Sure I do. And I speak English. I also speak a fair bit of Maori and Samoan, but not fluently.
  • Gordon Ruby De... 2012/06/28 16:59:02
    Gordon
    You selected the picture that contained vulgar language. Do you take responsability for your actions?
  • U Mad Bro? Gordon 2012/06/27 13:35:34
  • Jay U Mad Bro? 2012/06/29 16:55:58
    Jay
    well since jesus isn't real, that doesn't say much. but anyways, cool story bro.
  • U Mad Bro? Jay 2012/06/30 00:16:26
  • Jay U Mad Bro? 2012/06/30 02:09:20 (edited)
    Jay
    U mad? Normally I get called a gurl then I get called a girl, then I get can I have your stuff
  • BattleB... Gordon 2012/06/27 13:40:17
  • Kat Gordon 2012/06/27 13:40:49
    Kat
    +1
    True, there are some real jerks answering here. Just because you have a Mac you should be ripped off, if it was something they owned they would have a different opinion of it.
  • Ruby De... Kat 2012/06/27 13:42:20
    Ruby Dear - The Fangirl of PHAET
    +2
    No one's being ripped off. If you can't work out how to search by price, it's your own fault if you pay more.
  • Kat Ruby De... 2012/06/27 13:45:35
    Kat
    If they are getting the same options and picking pricier rooms it's different, if they aren't given the option of the cheaper rooms, they are being ripped off. Without the full story it's hard to say what their options are or even why it's an issue if there isn't something shady going on.
  • Ruby De... Kat 2012/06/27 13:48:52
    Ruby Dear - The Fangirl of PHAET
    +1
    It's just an over-hyped story. Everyone's getting the same options, mac users will just have the more expensive results at the top. There is still an option to list by least to most expensive.
  • Kat Ruby De... 2012/06/27 13:52:00
    Kat
    +1
    Then it's really a waste of everybody's time story. A lot of them out there now.
  • Ruby De... Kat 2012/06/27 13:58:27
    Ruby Dear - The Fangirl of PHAET
    +1
    Sure is.
  • U Mad Bro? Kat 2012/06/30 00:48:33
    U Mad Bro?
    Cry me a river
  • luke 2012/06/27 11:38:44 (edited)
    Fair
    luke
    +2
    If you're daft enough to buy a computer that is no better than any other computer yet costs three times as much, you deserve to be played for a fool. So if a website exploits your ineptitude for more profit, maybe you should gain some intelligence. Just a thought.
  • Bibliop... luke 2012/06/27 23:51:31
    Bibliophilic
    That's your opinion. You claim that windows users are more intelligent in order to refute your lack or funds or inferiority-complex. One's choice of computer has nothing to do with true intelligence.
  • the fuze 2012/06/27 11:20:51
    Foul
    the fuze
    +2
    I use Mac because I prefer it... not because I'm all that well-off.
  • BlackwinterG36C 2012/06/27 10:18:37
    Fair
    BlackwinterG36C
    +2
    HA HA thats what you get for being an apple worshiper.
  • Bibliop... Blackwi... 2012/06/27 23:50:24
    Bibliophilic
    Yes, using a mac clearly means that one worships apple.
  • aneed2know 2012/06/27 09:09:52
    Fair
    aneed2know
    +1
    why not free market at work isn't it?
  • KingdomNow 2012/06/27 08:46:44
    Fair
    KingdomNow
    +2
    There's a sucker born every minute.


    ...and they don't know how to work a PC.
  • U-Dog 2012/06/27 08:31:46 (edited)
    Fair
    U-Dog
    If you are still ignorant enough to not get the fact that MAC and some others are totally built upon a special government force permitted PROPRIETARY concept you deserve what you get.
  • Wolverineland 2012/06/27 08:20:58
    Fair
    Wolverineland
    +1
    I don't like Apple and never did. I guess they figure if you'll pay a few hundred more for a computer then you'll do the same on a hotel.
  • MOMMA THOMAS 2012/06/27 08:11:26
    Foul
    MOMMA THOMAS
    +2
    THAT'S WRONG!

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