Lakewood Cake Shop Refuses Wedding Cake To Gay Couple « CBS Denver: Should companies be free refuse service to gays?

or unhappy people, or anyone without shirt or shoes....

Is it a private establishment with private owners? If the answer is yes, then they have every right to refuse service to whomever they please.

. . .Eh, just as you have every right not to shop there.

they make cakes for them on other occasions...birthdays and what not,so they AREN'T refusing service to them,they are just refusing to make them a wedding cake and that's their choice. did anyone even bother reading the article? i don't think a business should be forced to do something if they don't believe in it.

As much as it pains me to say, business have a right to do business as they please (within legal limits). If that means they lose out on income for some misplaced ideals.... it's not my place to tell them to knock it off.

I just won't shop there. As easily as they can turn down money, I can just as easily not offer it to them.

If said company wished to limit it's profitability and scourn their PR with a large consumer market by all means if that is their prerogative they are more than free under the law to do so.

I'm sure there are twelve dozen other bakeries (in any given area) that would be more than happy to oblige and craft a super marvelous wedding cake without having any reservations about the matter.

If it is a privately owned business you have the right to refuse service to anyone.

it's wrong
but it's private busines

...otherwise we wouldn't be free to boycott their stores for personal reasons. Folks, why does anyone care? Seriously. Against gays, for gays, gay yourself. If you are gay and you go to a shop who refuses to do business with you, isn't that THEIR bad and not yours? If you're against gays and you opened up shop and refuse to do business with gay people, do you really care if they tell a bunch of people? As for me, I don't eat at Chic-fil-A anymore. Yeah, it's because of his stand on the side of hatred. But, he can go on verbally bashing gays all he likes. Gay people have been persecuted (ironically, much like the Christians and Jewish) long enough that a sandwich shop shouldn't dim their spirits. If you're really religious and your religion is against gays, then you already believe you're right and righteous... isn't that really the end of the story for you? If you're gay, do you really care to DO business with people who hate you for something so stupid? It seems like the sides are fairly neatly divided to avoid each other at all costs... seems a simple solution.

Seems silly to turn away business, but they have the right to do so.

If you own your own company you have the right to refuse service to anyone you please.

companies have the right to refuse service to anyone.

..it's called "equality"...

They should not be alowed to refuse services, but they should be allowed to refuse to support them. And Chick-fil-A said they would still serve them.

To me, it's as if they had a WHITE ONLY sign posted. Close 'em down and take their stuff.

they just don't want to make wedding cakes for gays,they aren't refusing service to them for other things.

Any business is free to deny anyone service without giving a reason.

However, if they publicly state that the reason is because they discriminate against gay couples, then they are free to pay the fines they will be liable for...

A private business can do whatever the hell they please. Sounds dumb though.

For the love of Pete! Ideally, a store owner should be allowed to refuse to do some things, like the bakery that refused to put a swastka on a cake for someone. It it's just a basic wedding cake, get over it.

The bible says nothing about refusing service to homosexuals, just that it's not right to be one. So this isn't covered by Freedom of Religion.

I've seen the reverse on more than one occasion.

As a small business owner I reserve the right to refuse my services to anyone for any reason. Don't like it too bad go suck an egg.

You may think you have that right, but you don't. We checked and can't find it anywhere.

It's as elusive as your brain.

Right. You can't find it either. Looks like you're in with your government in ignoring your Constitution. That's legal, for now.

All persons shall be entitled to the full and equal enjoyment of the goods, services, facilities, privileges, advantages, and accommodations of any place of public accommodation, as defined in this section, without discrimination or segregation on the ground of race, color, religion, or national origin.
And 42USC12182 protects those with disabilities:
quote:
No individual shall be discriminated against on the basis of disability in the full and equal enjoyment of the goods, services, facilities, privileges, advantages, or accommodations of any place of public accommodation by any person who owns, leases (or leases to), or operates a place of public accommodation.
Age and sex are not protected from discrimination in public accomodation under federal law to the best of my knowledge.
DOES NOT INCLUDE SEX, SEXUAL PREFERENCE OR AGE!!!!!!

Made ya look!



And you looked in the wrong place. It varies by state.

And anyone else they want...

I think that if you own a business you should have the right to refuse service to anyone, the government should stay out of it. But by doing this you could loose a lot of business and income which is not very smart when your in business to make money and you have employees to be concerned about.
But again as a person you have your own opnion, Chic-Fl-A president spoke out on how he felt but he didn't refuse to sell them chicken, it was only the way he thinks not the business.

That's a great point about Chic Fil A, but we can't find anything in your laws that states a business can refuse anyone for any reason.

As though merely creating a cake is encouraging this 'mortal sin'? I'm christian, and the fact is this: religious liberty is having the right to practice what your religion says, refusing a cake to a customer, that's just unprofessional. It's a business, not a home, therefore you cannot discriminate against anyone who hasn't done you harm.

Really? Don't discriminate against the movie shooter because he did YOU no harm? I don't care if folk want to be homosexual...but...it is physically an unhealthy lifestyle. Why promote it if you believe marriage is between one man and one woman.

The movie shooter went against the law, that's very different. But once he's done his sentence, and is let free, no, you can't discriminate against him.
But what makes you say that it's an unhealthy lifestyle? Aids, for instance, is actually more common amongst heterosexuals, and no one says being straight is unhealthy! Marriage, I think, is between two loving individuals, and gender, personally I don't think it matters. Even as a christian, and here's something else shocking: I don't think it's even a sin.

You've got a lot to learn if you don't think it's sin while professing to be a Christian.

Well first of all, I'm straight. So I don't do it, but nevertheless, it's not a sin. And you know what, I still think any sex outside of marriage is a sin. There isn't a real biblical basis to state it's a sin, and plenty scientific basis to state genes play a large role in determining your orientation (and there is no real scientific or biblical conflict, nor has there ever been). That pretty much sums up my position.

Ignore the people who try to put you down by saying that you aren't a real Christian by believing that. (Like keith down there...) I 100% agree, I was born and raised Christian and I'm bisexual. I get crap about it a lot on here, but I'm just here to say that there are others who agree with you! Most Christians I know actually support it though and don't find it to be a sin. It's just the extremists that come to light on this website... Have a nice day! (:

Thank you very much :) hope the same goes for you, but if it's any consolation, there's two massive groups where there are loads of people on here just like you.

Yup! (:

GSA, LGBT group. If you're bothered, why not join? :D

I might do that (: I like meeting people with similarities!