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Is the homosexual life Span shorter than the population at large?

Dan 2010/08/11 18:49:07
Related Topics: Cancer, Marriage, vehicle, AIDS

We have developed a quick and effective method for evaluating human customs and practices: what is their effect on human longevity? For example, smoking tobacco is frowned upon because a four-pack-a-day smoker loses about four years from his life expectancy as compared to non-smokers. This has been sufficient incentive for nationwide campaigns against smoking, against the advertising of tobacco products, and for the keeping of tobacco out of the hands of minors. The same general approach is taken toward alcoholism, the use of alcohol before operating a motor vehicle, and the use of drugs. In each instance the procedure condemned is considered both risky and life-shortening, and the weight of public opinion is brought to bear against it. Up until a few years ago, there was very little known about the life expectancy of homosexuals. It was taken for granted that it was the same as that of straight people of similar age and sex. Government agencies do not obtain the vital statistics of homosexual men and women and make no effort to find out what they are. This would be a waste of public money in view of the widely-held belief that these people are the same as anyone else, albeit with peculiar uses for their genital organs.



All of this changed in April, 1993, when Dr. Paul Cameron (Family Research Institute, Colorado Springs, CO 80962-2640) presented a paper to a meeting in Washington of the Eastern Psychological Association, entitled, "The Homosexual Lifespan."



Dr. Cameron was investigating a question of interest: do "married" homosexuals live longer than single ones? It is well known that while the present life expectancy of a 21 year old male who gets married is age 75; a man who never marries can expect to live to age 58. Similarly, a married female can expect to reach age 80, while an unmarried female can expect to reach 67 years. Marriage has a positive (good) effect on longevity. Does something similar hold true for homosexual men and women?



It occurred to Dr. Cameron that the obituary columns of periodic publications might yield a statistical basis for such an analysis. To test this hypothesis, he compiled the obituaries from 46 consecutive days of the Washington Post and 23 days of the Oregonian and found that 73 percent of the men and 80 percent of the women lived to age 65. Comparable census figures were 73 and 85 percent. He then started to collect newspapers and periodicals published by and for the homosexual community. It took three years to accumulate enough information to reach some conclusions. His organization has continued to collect information and analyze it since 1993, but no significant modifications to his published conclusions have been necessary. His paper is based on 6,383 death notices from sixteen journals over the preceding eight years. He obtained basic information on the age at time of death, occupation, whether or not there was a live-in companion, and cause of death. He found that the presence or absence of partners made no significant difference to the life expectancy.



About 15 percent of the obituaries were of people who did not die of AIDS. The life expectancy of such homosexual men was age 42 and nine percent lived to be 65. This compares with 75 percent of "straight", married males who reach age 65. The lesbian life expectancy was age 46 and 24 percent reached the age of 65 compared with 85 percent of married women. Subtract three years of longevity for AIDS sufferers. The male and female life expectancy of AIDS sufferers is 39 and 43 years, respectively. Of homosexual males with AIDS only one percent reached age 65, as compared to 73 percent of married males. Nine percent of AIDS-stricken lesbians reached age 65 as compared to 85 percent of married females.



Homosexual practices have serious side-effects other than an increase in illnesses and early death for the practitioners. First, most homosexuals contract the HIV virus. As early as July of 1987, Navy Surgeon General J.A. Zimble recommended reassigning flight-crew personnel who tested positive for HIV, because of HIV's apparent deleterious effect on the nervous system. We find interesting evidence in other statistics: death by motor vehicle accident is 18 times as likely for homosexual men as for white males; the death rate of homosexual men in other accidents is 10 times higher than it is for white males. The heart failure rate indicates both stress and the toll of disease on the cardiovascular systems of homosexual: the death rate was 22 times that of white males in the 25-54 age range. The suicide rates, homicide rates and rates of death from other causes were similarly elevated compared to statistics from any comparable group of the general public.



The likely explanation for many of these observations lies in the continual attacks on the immune system that is generated by homosexual practices. In addition, the person's physical system is grossly overstressed. These effects are intensified by use of drugs to increase the duration of erections and the stimulus produced by these efforts. The cumulative effects are an underlying, constant fatigue which results in poor judgment and loss of self-control. This is the condition that homosexuals of either sex find themselves in most of the time. Hence the high accident rate and high death rate.



Homosexual males and lesbians are seriously sick people, who are also fantastically accident-prone. They are sick with a vast variety of diseases most of which are transmissible. Some of these diseases are transmissible by air, many of which are resistant to the antibiotics currently in use. The hospitalization of a homosexual with drug-resistant tuberculosis is a crisis for the hospital administration and a life-threatening incident to those unfortunate enough to be in the hospital at that time. Air-conditioning systems readily distribute air-borne bacteria and put the entire body of patients and other personnel at risk.



Members of the armed forces who have to live and work in close contact with homosexuals are exposed to any and all of the diseases that they carry. In addition, in our submarines where bunks are always in use and the vessel is submerged for days at a time, the chances of transmitting a disease like pneumonia or tuberculosis from the homosexual crew member to the rest of the crew increase dramatically. The entire crew is needlessly at risk.



It is not just a matter of a man being able to do his job -- it is a matter of letting Typhoid Mary work in the kitchen, even if her performance is satisfactory. The banishing of homosexuals from the armed services does not bear on their civil rights -- the Constitution is not a suicide pact. Men do not volunteer for the armed services so that they may be subject to serious diseases because the services are not allowed to find and discharge disease-carriers.



By the secular definition of morality, outlined previously, homosexual practices, because they greatly reduce the life spans of the practitioners, are immoral. These practices produce deleterious effects not only upon the practitioners, but upon the general public and, in particular, the armed services.



Finally, there is the matter of recruitment for the homosexual community. Since there is no credible evidence that homosexuality is genetic, and homosexuals are known to have been married previously, and some have abandoned the practice to get married to a member of the other sex, we can conclude that it is a learned behavior. It is analogous to chronic alcoholism. Moreover, because of the high death rate, the homosexual community encourages its membership to continually recruit, "hit" on young people, even children. Not only do they get satisfaction for the immediate actions, but they start the victim on homosexual practices to replenish their community that is constantly being depleted by early deaths. Dr. Paul Cameron (The Gay Nineties, 1993, the Adroit Press) discusses these and other issues objectively and at great length.




c. 1996 Dr. Raphael G. Kazmann




Cameron, Paul E. 1993; Gay Nineties, Adroit Press, Franklin, TN.




Sexually transmitted diseases that cause proctitis include syphilis, gonorrhea, lymphogranuloma venereum, and amebiasis and as noted earlier the homosexual community has significant problems in regards to these illnesses.



http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/proctitis/DS00705/DSECTION=c...


http://www.umm.edu/ency/article/001139.htm


http://www.merck.com/mmhe/sec09/ch130/ch130f.html



Proctitis, syphilis, gonorrhea, lymphogranuloma venereum, and amebiasis are all maladies that are associated with gay bowel syndrome which why John G. Bartlett, M.D. stated at the Johns Hopkins HIV Guide website and at Medscape that gay bowel syndrome is still currently an issue.



http://www.hopkins-hivguide.org/literature_review/02-2004/new...


http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/470936_4




In relation to homosexuality and hepatitis, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) both Hepatitis A and Hepatitis B disproportionately affects men who have sex with men (MSM).



http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/diseases/hepatitis/msm/hav_msm_fact...


http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/diseases/hepatitis/msm/hbv_msm_fact...



"Hepatitis C virus (HCV) has not been thought to be efficiently transmitted through sexual contact. However, recent reports of outbreaks of acute hepatitis C among men who have sex with men (MSM) have changed this view. British researchers examined 7223 MSM who attended a single clinic in Brighton, United Kingdom, since 2000. The study investigators reported that highly risky sexual practices along with multiple sex partners explained the increase in episodes of acute HCV infection in this population."



http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/554156



WebMD, stated the following: "Men who have sex with men and women are a "significant bridge for HIV to women," the CDC's new data suggest."



http://www.webmd.com/sexual-conditions/guide/20061101/hiv-bis...



In relation to the closing of a San Diego homosexual bathhouse Peter LaBarbera stated the following:



There are hundreds of homosexual bathhouses across the United States. Men who frequent bathhouses contract deadly diseases which tragically cut short their own lives, the lives of their male sex partners, and the lives of girlfriends and wives. We hope this victory in San Diego will inspire many more citizens to complain and prompt prosecutors to enforce our laws."



http://americansfortruth.com/news/excellent-news-from-james-h...



We could go on and talk about homosexuality and cigarette smoking. lesbianism and obesity, homosexuality and anal cancer etc.. It is all there. One wonders why it is necessary for me to bring this out. Could it be because of the pro homosexual propaganda machine and the desire on the part of the left to choose political correctness over truth? I think so. Given the many diseases associated with homosexuality, the Bible prohibition against homosexuality is arguably one of the many examples where the Bible exhibited knowledge that was ahead of its time.


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  • medasanity 2012/06/06 12:35:15
    medasanity
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    It is always important to check the source of these studies. If you read about Paul Cameron you quickly realize he was strongly antii-gay before the "study" in 1983. His study has been panned repeatedly for methodology flaws and he was expelled from the American Psycology Association for refusing to cooperate with an ethics investigation. No one should be using this biased, flawed work as a basis for rational arguement.

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  • medasanity 2012/06/06 12:35:15
    medasanity
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    It is always important to check the source of these studies. If you read about Paul Cameron you quickly realize he was strongly antii-gay before the "study" in 1983. His study has been panned repeatedly for methodology flaws and he was expelled from the American Psycology Association for refusing to cooperate with an ethics investigation. No one should be using this biased, flawed work as a basis for rational arguement.
  • Lou Mus... medasanity 2012/11/16 03:45:23
    Lou Musumeci
    +3
    I agree and with a little common sense the "study" can be shown as crap in the first 2 minutes.First how many newspapers site a persons sexuality in the obits,either in the 80's 90's or today?Just the name of the group that funded it should give you a hint of its bias nature"Family Research Institute" AKA family research council the ones bringing us a more recent study out of Texas claming that children brought up by lesbian parents are like 10 or 15 times more likely to be touched sexually by a parent(or other adult) implying lesbians molest their kids 10 to 15 times more often then your average step dad...Yah right....B.S. I worked in a youth group home and spent a lot of time with many(way too many) children that had been touched sexually as a child and I can personaly tell you the offender was an adult straight male in 98% of the cases and the other 2% where NOT lesbian offenders.Even the men caught touching or more young boys where married to women so it could be said it was 100% straight men just 2% of them liked little boys too.In other words they wherent gay they where peodophiles,two totaly different things.Back to the first study how did he know if these people where gay?Could he have really found enough proof to know for sure.And how much detail into the cause of de...
    I agree and with a little common sense the "study" can be shown as crap in the first 2 minutes.First how many newspapers site a persons sexuality in the obits,either in the 80's 90's or today?Just the name of the group that funded it should give you a hint of its bias nature"Family Research Institute" AKA family research council the ones bringing us a more recent study out of Texas claming that children brought up by lesbian parents are like 10 or 15 times more likely to be touched sexually by a parent(or other adult) implying lesbians molest their kids 10 to 15 times more often then your average step dad...Yah right....B.S. I worked in a youth group home and spent a lot of time with many(way too many) children that had been touched sexually as a child and I can personaly tell you the offender was an adult straight male in 98% of the cases and the other 2% where NOT lesbian offenders.Even the men caught touching or more young boys where married to women so it could be said it was 100% straight men just 2% of them liked little boys too.In other words they wherent gay they where peodophiles,two totaly different things.Back to the first study how did he know if these people where gay?Could he have really found enough proof to know for sure.And how much detail into the cause of death could he have got,from what I remember usual cause of death from AIDS was infection and wasnt addressed in the obit.Plus how can you say Gays and lesbians on average only live to a certant age when most people over 60 in the 80's wouldnt feel comfortable telling their sexuality so how do you get a count.How many people had an aunt wilma that had a roommate that both lived to 100 but no one knew they where actually a couple for 70 yrs.These 2 studies I talk about along with 100 more are all made to make bigots feel justified in their life of hate.But they are starting to become out numbered.People are educating themselfs and learning to listen to their hearts.
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  • DFA 2011/07/12 03:20:21 (edited)
    DFA
    ... the font is too small
  • Dan DFA 2011/07/29 13:13:18
    Dan
    +1
    I cannot read the font on your avatar either.
  • The Sane One 2010/08/11 18:54:55
    The Sane One
    +1
    If you factor out most of the other stress-related factors, there is a SLIM possibility that being gay or lesbian might limit the quality of health during declining years-- but the now strong possibility of nationalized acceptance of gay marriage would nullify that.

    Especially if there is the concurrent drive to limit the sharing of needles between intravenous drug users (needle exchange programs) so that those junkies infected with HIV won't pass it along to non-infected people.
  • Dan The San... 2010/08/11 18:58:23
    Dan
    this does not comport with the facts of the study referenced above.
  • The San... Dan 2010/08/11 19:14:30
    The Sane One
    +1
    Well, the study can easily be refuted. Most homosexuals DON'T catch AIDS or contract the HIV virus; the growth in those infected can be attributed to intravenous drug use.

    Also, most homosexual males are NOT promiscuous (and therefore don't tend to spread the virus around to others.) Far from it, most gay males tend to latch onto someone who will accept them as a loving partner, because most of the rest of the world tends to shun them.

    Homosexuality is NOT a 'learned behavior'-- it is GENETIC, and recent studies have proven it. Nor do they 'recruit' from young people and children--- by far, the vast majority of pedophiles are HETEROSEXUAL.
  • Dan The San... 2010/08/11 19:42:18
    Dan
    Homosexuals are 9 times more likely to catch AIDS than the general public. Male homosexuals are very likely to get the virus which causes AIDS sometime in their life.

    Myth #1 "Also, most homosexual males are NOT promiscuous"

    This is false. A 2004 article by Michael Foust regarding homosexuality and promiscuity states the following:

    “ A new study by a group of University of Chicago researchers reveals a high level of promiscuity and unhealthy behavior among that city's homosexual male population.
    According to the researchers, 42.9 percent of homosexual men in Chicago's Shoreland area have had more than 60 sexual partners, while an additional 18.4 percent have had between 31 and 60 partners. All total, 61.3 percent of the area's homosexual men have had more than 30 partners, and 87.8 percent have had more than 15, the research found.

    As a result, 55.1 percent of homosexual males in Shoreland -- known as Chicago's "gay center" -- have at least one sexually transmitted disease, researchers said.

    The three-year study on the sexual habits of Chicago's citizens will appear in the upcoming book, "The Sexual Organization of The City" (University of Chicago Press),

    http://www.bpnews.net/bpnews....

    Myth #2: Homosexuality is NOT a 'learned behavior'-- it is GENETIC

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    Homosexuals are 9 times more likely to catch AIDS than the general public. Male homosexuals are very likely to get the virus which causes AIDS sometime in their life.

    Myth #1 "Also, most homosexual males are NOT promiscuous"

    This is false. A 2004 article by Michael Foust regarding homosexuality and promiscuity states the following:

    “ A new study by a group of University of Chicago researchers reveals a high level of promiscuity and unhealthy behavior among that city's homosexual male population.
    According to the researchers, 42.9 percent of homosexual men in Chicago's Shoreland area have had more than 60 sexual partners, while an additional 18.4 percent have had between 31 and 60 partners. All total, 61.3 percent of the area's homosexual men have had more than 30 partners, and 87.8 percent have had more than 15, the research found.

    As a result, 55.1 percent of homosexual males in Shoreland -- known as Chicago's "gay center" -- have at least one sexually transmitted disease, researchers said.

    The three-year study on the sexual habits of Chicago's citizens will appear in the upcoming book, "The Sexual Organization of The City" (University of Chicago Press),

    http://www.bpnews.net/bpnews....

    Myth #2: Homosexuality is NOT a 'learned behavior'-- it is GENETIC

    A common argument is that an inclination to homosexuality is inborn and immutable. It is widely believed that the public will become more accepting of homosexuality if they are convinced that it is inborn and immutable. For example, neuroscientist and homosexual Simon Levay stated: "...people who think that gays and lesbians are born that way are also more likely to support gay rights."

    http://www.icna.org/family/in... option=com_content&view=a...

    Research into the issue of the origins of homosexuality suggests that adoptive brothers are more likely to both be homosexuals than the biological brothers, who share half their genes which suggests that homosexuality is not genetically caused.

    Science, Vol. 262, page 2063, December 24, 1993

    This data prompted the journal Science to report "this . . . suggests that there is no genetic component, but rather an environmental component shared in families".

    http://www.cwfa.org/images/co...

    However, in regards to psychosocial and biological theories in regards to the origin of homosexuality, Columbia University psychiatry professors Drs. William Byrne and Bruce Parsons stated in 1994: "There is no evidence that at present to substantiate a biological theory. [T]he appeal of current biological explanations for sexual orientation may derive more from dissatisfaction with the present status of psychosocial explanations than from a substantiating body of experimental data".

    http://www.cwfa.org/images/co...

    Myth #3 Nor do they 'recruit' from young people and children

    GLSEN targets children for recruitment into the homosexual lifestyle...through GLSEN chapters that sponsor hundreds of Gay Straight Alliance (GSA) clubs on junior high and high school campuses across the United States.
    GLSEN gets into schools by claiming that "homosexual" and "transgender" students need to feel safe and encouraged; and that so-called "homosexual/transgender" teens have high rates of suicide and need a support group. When this tactic fails, GLSEN then threatens legal action against school districts that refuse to allow these recruitment clubs on campus. The American Civil Liberties Union has volunteered to serve as the enforcement arm of GLSEN to impose a homosexual agenda on the nation's public schools.

    http://glsen.traditionalvalue...

    Thanks for offering many of the homosexual lobby myths!
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  • The San... Dan 2010/08/11 19:49:12
    The Sane One
    +1
    Ok, now see how many heterosexuals have had as many partners and have also had sexually transmitted diseases. In order for your point to be valid, you have to have the data on hand to compare.

    Secondly, try using a study done in THIS century-- we've discovered that there actually IS a genetic cause for sexual attraction.

    Thirdly, there is a very strong difference between groups advocating tolerance and active recruitment into a homosexual relationship.

    I wonder if you thought that your biology teacher was trying to 'recruit' you into a heterosexual relationship with her-- or was she merely teaching you HOW the reproductive system worked?
  • Dan The San... 2010/08/12 03:04:22
    Dan
    I have looked it up and heterosexual promiscuity is much less than homosexual. In reference to male homosexuality, consider that males need much less warm up time before sex than females. Females like to get to know a person prior to sex and feel loved. Males much less so. As such,, a quick stop at a gay bar, bath house or walk in the right park nearly guarantees 'getting lucky'.

    "we've discovered that there actually IS a genetic cause for sexual attraction."

    Myth: there are no studies, recent or old, which demonstrate genetic causality for homosexuality. Actually, the opposite is the case. Environmental factors are the most important.

    My biology teacher was male and my coach. He did very little teaching but his female assistant was hot! I have a degree in biology, and taught the subject for 7 years in public high schools. I know the different between offering information and recruiting a young person to a poor lifestyle choice.
  • The San... Dan 2010/08/12 18:24:34
  • Dan The San... 2010/08/13 12:47:33
    Dan
    citing the bragging of a rockstar or basketball champion does not represent a statistic for the general public. Are you really that clueless? I note you failed to mention Magic Johnson. Heterosexuals are, on average, FAR less promiscous. Are there notable exceptions, of course! And those who are will suffer the consequences of their foolishness. Yet even promiscous heterosexual men are less likely to get some types of diseases which homosexuals do, especially if they do not indulge in anal sex and especially with other men.
  • The San... Dan 2010/08/13 17:07:56
    The Sane One
    +1
    Wrong... promiscuous heterosexual men ARE actually more likely to pick up diseases, especially if they use intravenous drugs.

    And while there are SOME homosexuals who are promiscuous, the VAST majority of them have had less than 10 sexual partners throughout their entire lives. Only a very small percentage of them use bath houses-- just as only a small percentage of heterosexual men use brothels.
  • Dan The San... 2010/08/21 22:00:52
  • Anto Dan 2011/09/07 23:58:23
    Anto
    +1
    Many straight people do anal sex, how many of them pick HIV? So many without condoms so much less with it, the same with gay people. Also not promiscuous gay are safe. The only possible reason of increased risk among them is not using protection. There are also old 90 years old gays, as well as straight people. Not alway male means promiscuous "pig". :-) What a bad conception of males.
  • Gianni ... Dan 2012/01/17 21:47:20
    Gianni Crivello
    Such a poor lifestyle choice.. Thank you for the information.
  • Anto Gianni ... 2013/05/01 16:17:50
    Anto
    We can't talk about a single lifestyle, they are individuals :).
  • kevracer 2010/08/11 18:52:29
    kevracer
    +2
    what a load of homophobic crap.
  • Dan kevracer 2010/08/11 18:59:16
    Dan
    please elaborate.
  • kevracer Dan 2010/08/11 19:12:05
    kevracer
    +1
    "Finally, there is the matter of recruitment for the homosexual community. Since there is no credible evidence that homosexuality is genetic, and homosexuals are known to have been married previously, and some have abandoned the practice to get married to a member of the other sex, we can conclude that it is a learned behavior." Not supported by FACTS

    http://www.skeptictank.org/ga...
    http://mental-health.families...
    http://drphil.com/articles/ar...
  • Dan kevracer 2010/08/11 19:43:22
    Dan
    Myth #1 "Also, most homosexual males are NOT promiscuous"

    This is false. A 2004 article by Michael Foust regarding homosexuality and promiscuity states the following:

    “ A new study by a group of University of Chicago researchers reveals a high level of promiscuity and unhealthy behavior among that city's homosexual male population.
    According to the researchers, 42.9 percent of homosexual men in Chicago's Shoreland area have had more than 60 sexual partners, while an additional 18.4 percent have had between 31 and 60 partners. All total, 61.3 percent of the area's homosexual men have had more than 30 partners, and 87.8 percent have had more than 15, the research found.

    As a result, 55.1 percent of homosexual males in Shoreland -- known as Chicago's "gay center" -- have at least one sexually transmitted disease, researchers said.

    The three-year study on the sexual habits of Chicago's citizens will appear in the upcoming book, "The Sexual Organization of The City" (University of Chicago Press),

    http://www.bpnews.net/bpnews....

    Myth #2: Homosexuality is NOT a 'learned behavior'-- it is GENETIC

    A common argument is that an inclination to homosexuality is inborn and immutable. It is widely believed that the public will become more accepting of homosexuality if they ar...

    &




















    Myth #1 "Also, most homosexual males are NOT promiscuous"

    This is false. A 2004 article by Michael Foust regarding homosexuality and promiscuity states the following:

    “ A new study by a group of University of Chicago researchers reveals a high level of promiscuity and unhealthy behavior among that city's homosexual male population.
    According to the researchers, 42.9 percent of homosexual men in Chicago's Shoreland area have had more than 60 sexual partners, while an additional 18.4 percent have had between 31 and 60 partners. All total, 61.3 percent of the area's homosexual men have had more than 30 partners, and 87.8 percent have had more than 15, the research found.

    As a result, 55.1 percent of homosexual males in Shoreland -- known as Chicago's "gay center" -- have at least one sexually transmitted disease, researchers said.

    The three-year study on the sexual habits of Chicago's citizens will appear in the upcoming book, "The Sexual Organization of The City" (University of Chicago Press),

    http://www.bpnews.net/bpnews....

    Myth #2: Homosexuality is NOT a 'learned behavior'-- it is GENETIC

    A common argument is that an inclination to homosexuality is inborn and immutable. It is widely believed that the public will become more accepting of homosexuality if they are convinced that it is inborn and immutable. For example, neuroscientist and homosexual Simon Levay stated: "...people who think that gays and lesbians are born that way are also more likely to support gay rights."

    http://www.icna.org/family/in... option=com_content&view=a...

    Research into the issue of the origins of homosexuality suggests that adoptive brothers are more likely to both be homosexuals than the biological brothers, who share half their genes which suggests that homosexuality is not genetically caused.

    Science, Vol. 262, page 2063, December 24, 1993

    This data prompted the journal Science to report "this . . . suggests that there is no genetic component, but rather an environmental component shared in families".

    http://www.cwfa.org/images/co...

    However, in regards to psychosocial and biological theories in regards to the origin of homosexuality, Columbia University psychiatry professors Drs. William Byrne and Bruce Parsons stated in 1994: "There is no evidence that at present to substantiate a biological theory. [T]he appeal of current biological explanations for sexual orientation may derive more from dissatisfaction with the present status of psychosocial explanations than from a substantiating body of experimental data".

    http://www.cwfa.org/images/co...

    Myth #3 Nor do they 'recruit' from young people and children

    GLSEN targets children for recruitment into the homosexual lifestyle...through GLSEN chapters that sponsor hundreds of Gay Straight Alliance (GSA) clubs on junior high and high school campuses across the United States.
    GLSEN gets into schools by claiming that "homosexual" and "transgender" students need to feel safe and encouraged; and that so-called "homosexual/transgender" teens have high rates of suicide and need a support group. When this tactic fails, GLSEN then threatens legal action against school districts that refuse to allow these recruitment clubs on campus. The American Civil Liberties Union has volunteered to serve as the enforcement arm of GLSEN to impose a homosexual agenda on the nation's public schools.

    http://glsen.traditionalvalue...

    Thanks for offering many of the homosexual lobby myths!
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  • kevracer Dan 2010/08/11 20:47:13
    kevracer
    so which is it: Are you scared of being "recruited" or are you just angry that no one has tried to recruit you?
  • Dan kevracer 2010/08/12 03:06:35
    Dan
    neither, i am a satisfied heterosexual, married for 20 years, 10 children, with no homosexual urges. And I have had several offers in my youth from homosexuals, all rejected.
  • kevracer Dan 2010/08/12 15:43:12
    kevracer
    so you condemn it without having tried it? seems hypocrtical to me
  • Dan kevracer 2010/08/13 12:48:26
    Dan
    yeah, I condemn serial killing also without trying it. I am funny that way. What ignorant ass would rave a stupid idiotic comment like that?
  • kevracer Dan 2010/08/13 15:16:00
    kevracer
    you have no sense of humor obviously
  • Dan kevracer 2011/07/29 13:12:30
    Dan
    no, I do not have your dark sense of humor obviously
  • Anto Dan 2011/09/08 00:02:21
    Anto
    wow!
  • Gianni ... Dan 2012/01/18 05:10:29
    Gianni Crivello
    Nor a sense of common respect! All of your words are meaningful in the eyes of the Lord, Dan.
  • Anto Dan 2011/09/08 00:01:37
    Anto
    No lobby, many animals are gay and even change involuntarily swapping from gay to straigh during their life. This number is and will always be a fixed minority, predisposition to this change is mostly (i may agree not totally) genetic.
  • Gianni ... Anto 2012/01/18 05:11:05
    Gianni Crivello
    Doesn't matter, bad lifestyle choice for humans. Many have shown that it is not too difficult to un-gay oneself, given a lack of environmental stressors.
  • Anto Gianni ... 2012/01/19 00:36:46
    Anto
    Everything can be bad if abused. That is a bad lifestyle is a matter of opinion, though.
  • Gianni ... Anto 2012/01/19 23:28:01
    Gianni Crivello
    It's my opinion that I've seen enough and understood enough to claim it is fact.

    It is a scientists opinion that he's put together the right information to make his theory correct.

    The difference is, a scientist's opinion is corroborated by enough sources of external reality to be considered valid. As far as I have been shown, my opinion is correct: homosexuals should not pursue a homosexual lifestyle.
  • Anto Gianni ... 2012/01/22 12:31:05 (edited)
    Anto
    Yes, but there are very elder people even among gay. This is also a fact. It suffice being informed on the risk and how to overcome them, taking the available precaution. I'm not involved myself, as I'm straight, be it clear.
    Intolerant people should not pursue intolerant lifestyle ;).
  • Gianni ... Anto 2012/01/26 23:01:25
    Gianni Crivello
    There are always outliers in any statistical frame of reference, it does not refute the causality established by the study.
    They shouldn't! I consider myself to be pretty tolerant, I hope my fervor for the dispersion of truths does not put off an air of disgust for the men. I simply don't agree with their lifestyle, that's just about all.
  • Anto Gianni ... 2012/01/28 16:53:12
    Anto
    It depends on how the causality is established by the study if it's about the diseases I have already answered about it, but I can't find other relevent reasons.
    And we don't have to share every lifestyle existing of the world. I'm straight but there are religious lifestyles I don't agree with, but as long as they don't impose them to me I'm fair with it.That I agree with their lifestyle or not is and must be irrilevant. And not all gays have the same lifestyle.

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