
Is the bible right about everything it says there?
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hapman 2012/08/17 15:56:55No+5just read some science. christianity's previous ideas about the structure of 'creation' were comprehensively dismantled by free, open inquiry. the bible is generally vague and ambiguous. it doesn't really say anything at all, leaving it open to any interpretation you want to put on it. and that's precisely what's happened. any number of different ideas on 'what god wants' all come out of the same book. amazing. what more conclusive proof do you need that religion is about what people want, not what a fictitious god wants. hard facts and real knowledge have clearly demonstrated that, when the bible does make a definitive statement, it's inaccurate or just wrong. belief in christian doctrine requires ignoring a whole lot of stuff that has actually been proven. christianity has a sum total of zero evidence to support it's position. they only thing it's ever proved is that it has no credibility. pope paul v and the inquisition charged galileo with contradicting the holy scriptures. as turned out, galileo was right. therefore the holy scriptures are wrong. therefore they can't be the word of god. nothing that christianity thinks or says can be trusted. it's been proved.



















Then the authors lied about who they were... then most of what they wrote was made up in their minds..Even in the bible it says lying is OK,,, It even says God will make people lie,,
When I say I know someone in a biblical sense, I mean that I don't believe a word they say.
hows that working out for you ?
found world peace and put and end to world hunger yet?
I dont claim to be god,,, however I do my share of helpeing people within my limits...
What has your God done for anyone???
have you ever considersided what Proverbs 6:6-13 really means if so share with me now what your understand of this Proverb. please do I am interested in your thoughts.
the scriptures used to compose the bible with came from serveral places. and just a note was it the Roman Catholic Chruch that produced the first version of the bible?
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Recently an ice core nearly two miles long has been extracted from the Greenland ice sheet. The first 110,000 annual layers of snow in that ice core (GISP2) have been visually counted and corroborated by two to three different and independent methods as well as by correlation with volcanic eruptions and other datable events. Since the ice sheet would have floated away in the event of a global flood, the ice core is strong evidence that there was no global flood any time in the last 110,000 years.
Geological effects of the flood:
• How were mountains formed? Many very tall mountains are composed of sedimentary rocks. (The summit of Everest is composed of deep-marine limestone, with fossils of ocean-bottom dwelling crinoids [Gansser, 1964].) If these were laid down during the flood, how did they reach their present height, and when were the valleys between them eroded away? Keep in mind that many valleys were clearly carved by glacial erosion, which is a slow process.
• How does a global flood explain angular unconformities, where one set of layers of sediments have been extensively modified (e.g., tilted) and eroded before a second set of ...
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Recently an ice core nearly two miles long has been extracted from the Greenland ice sheet. The first 110,000 annual layers of snow in that ice core (GISP2) have been visually counted and corroborated by two to three different and independent methods as well as by correlation with volcanic eruptions and other datable events. Since the ice sheet would have floated away in the event of a global flood, the ice core is strong evidence that there was no global flood any time in the last 110,000 years.
Geological effects of the flood:
• How were mountains formed? Many very tall mountains are composed of sedimentary rocks. (The summit of Everest is composed of deep-marine limestone, with fossils of ocean-bottom dwelling crinoids [Gansser, 1964].) If these were laid down during the flood, how did they reach their present height, and when were the valleys between them eroded away? Keep in mind that many valleys were clearly carved by glacial erosion, which is a slow process.
• How does a global flood explain angular unconformities, where one set of layers of sediments have been extensively modified (e.g., tilted) and eroded before a second set of layers were deposited on top? They thus seem to require at least two periods of deposition (more, where there is more than one unconformity) with long periods of time in between to account for the deformation, erosion, and weathering observed.
• When did granite batholiths form? Some of these are intruded into older sediments and have younger sediments on their eroded top surfaces. It takes a long time for magma to cool into granite, nor does granite erode very quickly. [For example, see Donohoe & Grantham, 1989, for locations of contact between the South Mountain Batholith and the Meugma Group of sediments, as well as some angular unconformities.]
• How was the fossil record sorted in an order convenient for evolution? Ecological zonation and hydrodynamic sorting fail to explain:
1. the extremely good sorting observed. Why didn't at least one dinosaur make it to the high ground with the elephants?
2. the relative positions of plants and other non-motile life. (Yun, 1989, describes beautifully preserved algae from Late Precambrian sediments. Why don't any modern-looking plants appear that low in the geological column?)
3. why some groups of organisms, such as mollusks, are found in many geologic strata.
4. why organisms (such as brachiopods) which are very similar hydrodynamically (all nearly the same size, shape, and weight) are still perfectly sorted.
5. why extinct animals which lived in the same niches as present animals didn't survive as well. Why did no pterodons make it to high ground?
6. how coral reefs hundreds of feet thick and miles long were preserved intact with other fossils below them.
7. why small organisms dominate the lower strata, whereas fluid mechanics says they would sink slower and thus end up in upper strata.
• How can a single flood be responsible for such extensively detailed layering? One formation is six kilometers thick. If we grant 400 days for this to settle, and ignore possible compaction since the flood, we still have 15 meters of sediment settling *per day*. And yet despite this, the chemical properties of the rock are neatly layered, with great changes (e.g.) in percent carbonate occurring within a few centimeters in the vertical direction. How does such a neat sorting process occur in the violent context of a universal flood dropping 15 meters of sediment per day? How can you explain a thin layer of high carbonate sediment being deposited over an area of ten thousand square kilometers for some thirty minutes, followed by thirty minutes of low carbonate deposition, followed by thirty minutes more of .... well, I think you get the picture. [From: Bill Hyde; see also Kent & Olsen, 1992]
• How do you explain the formation of varves? The Green River formation in Wyoming contains 20,000,000 annual layers, or varves, identical to those being laid down today in certain lakes. The sediments are so fine that each layer would have required over a month to settle. [From: bill@bessel.as.utexas.edu (William H. Jefferys)]
• How do you explain worldwide agreement between "apparent" geological eras and several different (independent) radiometric and nonradiometric dating methods? [Short et. al., 1991]
• Why is there no evidence of a flood in ice core series? A worldwide flood would be expected to leave a layer of sediments, noticeable changes in salinity and oxygen isotope ratios, fractures from buoyancy and thermal stresses, a hiatus in trapped air bubbles, and probably other evidence. All such evidence is lacking in annual layers dating back 40,000 years.
• How were limestone deposits formed? Limestone is made of the skeletons of zillions of microscopic sea animals. Some deposits are thousands of meters thick. Were all those animals alive when the flood started? If not, how do you explain the well-ordered sequence of fossils in the deposits?
• How could a flood have deposited chalk? Chalk is largely made up of the bodies of planktonic animals 700 to 1000 angstroms in diameter [Bignot, 1985]. Objects this small settle at a rate of .0000154 mm/sec. [Twenhofel, 1961] In a year of the flood, they could have settled about half a meter. [From xdegrm@oryx.com (glenn r morton)]
• Deep in the geologic column there are formations which could have originated only on the surface, such as:
o rain drops;
o river channels;
o wind-blown dunes [Kocurek & Dott, 1981; Clemmenson & Abrahamsen, 1983; Hubert & Mertz, 1984];
o beaches;
o glacial deposits [Eyles & Miall, 1984];
o burrows;
o in-place trees [Cristie & McMillan, 1991];
o soil [Reinhardt & Sigleo, 1989; Wright, 1994];
o dessication cracks;
o footprints. [Gore, 1993, has a photograph (p. 16-17) showing dinosaur footprints in one layer with water ripples in layers above and below it. Gilette & Lockley, 1989, have several more examples, including dinosaur footprints on top of a coal seam (p. 361-366).]
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