Get over it! If you don't want to have your male children circumcised, then don't do it! They could always elect to do it later if they chose to do so.
But why is it that right away you want to "ban" something or make a "law" against it? Why should YOU or anyone else make that decision for other people? It's been a Jewish tradition for centuries and it DOES have its advantages.
I suggest you stop worrying about the penises of my future children or grandchildren because I might happen to have opposite beliefs.
I'm sorry. I don't mean to be hard on you but it really irks me that because YOU don't want your kid circumcised you care about the sexual pleasure that my son will be denied. It's people like you who have screwed up America with your self righteous political correctness BS. Go jump on the abortion bandwagon! That's what I call mutilation.
Is Circumcision Male Genital Mutilation?
- February 10, 2010 09:00:00
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Circumcision. If I'm talking about female circumcision in the Western world, I'll rightly be met with gasps of horror. How could people think about cutting off the clitoris and labia of a healthy girl? If I'm talking about male circumcision, people react far more calmly, as if they're being offered full milk or half and half, as if the difference were purely cosmetic.
The fact that many parents elect to have their male children physically mutilated shortly after birth without anesthetic is a perfectly normal and indeed, legal, part of our society. Are we insane?
My own boyfriend casually mentioned one day that if we had a son, he would be circumcised. 'You'll have to go through me first,' I told him, and I was quite serious. Circumcision, even when done in hospitals, involves strapping a baby boy down, slicing his foreskin down the middle and then shearing it off with a clipping device.
At no time is any anesthetic given because it's not safe to drug a newborn, (though it is apparently quite safe to remove parts of his genitalia.) The baby, quite rightly, howls in pain the whole time. I can't imagine, as a mother, allowing someone to do that to my child. In fact, the idea alone fills me with a primal sort of protective rage and I don't even have a baby.
Circumcision is an ancient practice, and in ancient contexts it makes sense. I understand the tradition of circumcision if you're a member of a desert culture with little to no access to water for hygiene purposes. Circumcision at least makes some kind of practical sense in that scenario. But in a modern context? No. If your kid can manage to wipe his ass, he can learn to clean his genitals as well, it's not rocket science.
Then there is the cosmetic aspect of circumcision. Some people think a circumcised penis just looks better. Does it? And if it does, is that justification for performing hack and slash operations on infants who have no say in the matter? Many of us freely mocked Heidi Montag when she transformed her perfectly serviceable face into something resembling a porn-bot, but at least Heidi Montag made the choice of her own free will, and at least she wasn't conscious the entire time the operation was being carried out
The foreskin isn't just a useless floppy bit of skin. It has a purpose both in protecting the penis and in enhancing male pleasure. Scientists state that the foreskin is analogous to the female clitoris in that it contains many sensitive nerve endings which aid in male pleasure. As I mentioned at the beginning of the article, if you clipped the clitorises of newborn females, you'd be put in jail, but for some reason if you remove what would one day be an inch or two of pleasure inducing male flesh, people will toast your efforts and celebrate the event.
It's time to live up to all this equality we keep yammering on about between women and men and extend the same protections to male children as we do to females. It's not okay to forcibly remove a part of someone else's genitals, whether or not they happen to be your child. That should be a self evident truth, so why is male circumcision still legal?
The fact that many parents elect to have their male children physically mutilated shortly after birth without anesthetic is a perfectly normal and indeed, legal, part of our society. Are we insane?
My own boyfriend casually mentioned one day that if we had a son, he would be circumcised. 'You'll have to go through me first,' I told him, and I was quite serious. Circumcision, even when done in hospitals, involves strapping a baby boy down, slicing his foreskin down the middle and then shearing it off with a clipping device.
At no time is any anesthetic given because it's not safe to drug a newborn, (though it is apparently quite safe to remove parts of his genitalia.) The baby, quite rightly, howls in pain the whole time. I can't imagine, as a mother, allowing someone to do that to my child. In fact, the idea alone fills me with a primal sort of protective rage and I don't even have a baby.
Circumcision is an ancient practice, and in ancient contexts it makes sense. I understand the tradition of circumcision if you're a member of a desert culture with little to no access to water for hygiene purposes. Circumcision at least makes some kind of practical sense in that scenario. But in a modern context? No. If your kid can manage to wipe his ass, he can learn to clean his genitals as well, it's not rocket science.
Then there is the cosmetic aspect of circumcision. Some people think a circumcised penis just looks better. Does it? And if it does, is that justification for performing hack and slash operations on infants who have no say in the matter? Many of us freely mocked Heidi Montag when she transformed her perfectly serviceable face into something resembling a porn-bot, but at least Heidi Montag made the choice of her own free will, and at least she wasn't conscious the entire time the operation was being carried out
The foreskin isn't just a useless floppy bit of skin. It has a purpose both in protecting the penis and in enhancing male pleasure. Scientists state that the foreskin is analogous to the female clitoris in that it contains many sensitive nerve endings which aid in male pleasure. As I mentioned at the beginning of the article, if you clipped the clitorises of newborn females, you'd be put in jail, but for some reason if you remove what would one day be an inch or two of pleasure inducing male flesh, people will toast your efforts and celebrate the event.
It's time to live up to all this equality we keep yammering on about between women and men and extend the same protections to male children as we do to females. It's not okay to forcibly remove a part of someone else's genitals, whether or not they happen to be your child. That should be a self evident truth, so why is male circumcision still legal?
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But now male circumcision is being performed in a more serious way.
I agree noone should be forced in these matters.
Education is key.
All people want to do right...by the law
*Fine, if your culture dictates hacking up your offspring, then don't judge others' treatment of theirs'
“Prevention of UTI.” Oh man, if we only had antibiotics... “I said PREVENTION!” Okay... he might end up obese like his parents or other relatives: let's give his a gastrointestinal bypass now. Or cut his hands off, less he becomes a thief. “But, but studies show that it prevents HIV” Mmhmm, in HIV-rampant AFRICA. I dare-say that majority of us aren't in, from, or ever will raise a family in Africa. Besides: the results were for MEN...not boys.
“Well, he won't look the same as his father/me or other boys his age.” I don't know about your family, but in mine, male-bonding activities never involved whipping out our penises. Children tend to laugh at or be jealous of anything different. Height, weight, skin color, speech, ethnicity, how far above/below average he...
*Fine, if your culture dictates hacking up your offspring, then don't judge others' treatment of theirs'
“Prevention of UTI.” Oh man, if we only had antibiotics... “I said PREVENTION!” Okay... he might end up obese like his parents or other relatives: let's give his a gastrointestinal bypass now. Or cut his hands off, less he becomes a thief. “But, but studies show that it prevents HIV” Mmhmm, in HIV-rampant AFRICA. I dare-say that majority of us aren't in, from, or ever will raise a family in Africa. Besides: the results were for MEN...not boys.
“Well, he won't look the same as his father/me or other boys his age.” I don't know about your family, but in mine, male-bonding activities never involved whipping out our penises. Children tend to laugh at or be jealous of anything different. Height, weight, skin color, speech, ethnicity, how far above/below average he is in class...Given that many boys, including Americans, aren't getting circumcised and that going to the shower room or restroom doesn't occupy a big portion of the school day, this would happen very rarely if it all.
“It's just cleaner!” I suppose that if your son is an imbecile and can't wipe his ass or feed himself, then maybe a circumcision and for good measure, castration, are called for. Maybe the men who advocate circumcision on grounds of cleanliness are too lazy to wash down there. But I suppose it's a good reason IF 1)You live in a filthy country with inadequate clean water 2)amazingly, you had anesthetics, clean water, and antibiotics at the time of your son's circumcision but will never have that ever again
“okay, GOD said so!” Are you sure? Have you actually read your holy book or did you stop as soon as you read 'circumcise?' http://www.hebrew4christians.... I quote: “But if the question is whether a Christian should be circumcised in the physical sense, as a Rabbinical rite that is intended to symbolize inclusion into Israel (i.e., "conversion" to Judaism), the answer is a resounding "No!" If you have trusted in Yeshua as your Savior you have no need for any further conversion.” As for any other religions, I don't know.
But I don't have time to argue with each and every one of you. However, I'd like to address Louisa's "Get over it" comment.
Louisa, I doubt very seriously that you'd oppose a law against deflowering girls in infancy, nor would you accept the arguments that "She'll heal with only minor scarring" or that "She won't remember the pain when she grows up." You would consider any such act to be rape. In fact, chances are that you would consider it to be a crime if anyone so much as touched a baby's privates without a legitimate reason.
Nor would you oppose a law against cutting off a baby's earlobes. Sure, the baby wil be just fine without earlobes, but you would consider that to be mutilation nonetheless.
So why the defense of cutting off part of a baby's penis? Is it a crime to cut off any other part of the body, or even to touch his penis without a legitimate reason, but perfectly OK to cut off part of his penis? How do you justify this?
I have met several men who were permanently deformed as a result of botched circumcisions. How would you like to walk around for your whole life with permanently deformed genitalia?
And then there...
But I don't have time to argue with each and every one of you. However, I'd like to address Louisa's "Get over it" comment.
Louisa, I doubt very seriously that you'd oppose a law against deflowering girls in infancy, nor would you accept the arguments that "She'll heal with only minor scarring" or that "She won't remember the pain when she grows up." You would consider any such act to be rape. In fact, chances are that you would consider it to be a crime if anyone so much as touched a baby's privates without a legitimate reason.
Nor would you oppose a law against cutting off a baby's earlobes. Sure, the baby wil be just fine without earlobes, but you would consider that to be mutilation nonetheless.
So why the defense of cutting off part of a baby's penis? Is it a crime to cut off any other part of the body, or even to touch his penis without a legitimate reason, but perfectly OK to cut off part of his penis? How do you justify this?
I have met several men who were permanently deformed as a result of botched circumcisions. How would you like to walk around for your whole life with permanently deformed genitalia?
And then there are the risks of infection, particularly staph. Not all circumcisions are without complications, and in some cases they can be life-threatening.
If you think circumcision is harmless, then I challenge you to examine the evidence presented in the following articles. (Warning: Content is graphic and nauseating.)
http://www.catholicsagainstci...
http://www.cirp.org/library/c...
http://www.cirp.org/library/c...
The foreskin is a part of the human body. It is something you are deciding to cut off of a defenseless infant before it can make the choice for itself. That is a violation of human rights, and THAT is forcing YOUR beliefs on someone else.
The author is expressing her desire for protection of infants and children until they can decide to make the choice for themselves. Preventing others from forcing their view and beliefs on the infant at the expense of that infants body part.
Without a doubt. It's an atrocity.
Way to Go Louisa for sounding like a typical Over bearing religious women spouting nonsense based on your own opinion as well.
Were SO sorry for worrying about circumcising because YOU feel differently.
Get your head out of your a**! We all have our own opinions. We all are stubborn and want to be heard, but there's NO reason to tell some what to shut it because YOUfeel otherwise.
Get over yourself!
If African Americans were still slaves and I was blogging about how we should all be treated equally you'd be one of those people attacking my opinion solely based on your beliefs; beliefs based on your religion.
So your right in one part.
"They could always elect to do it later if they chose to do so. "
So why is it such a big deal to make a law making it illegal in the states? Cause you're so bent on circumcising your child and you know there's no way in hell he would chose to do so later knowing how ridiculously painful it'd be, and for what, because it's a practice, because it's the religions tradition?
If you had a penis I highly doubt you'd go through with circumcising yourself
RELIGIOUS OR NOT THERE IS JUST AS MUCH SCIENTIFIC INFO TO SUPPORT CIRCUMSISIONS AS THERE IS SAYING IT IS BENIGN... FACT still remains I know 3 people that have has circumsisions perscribed by doctors! all healthy clean people that got urinary track infections. furhtermore if papalomavirus is such a problem why not take dirty d1cks out of the equasion?
Religious or not I can prove that uncircumsized is dirtier! spreads more dieseas! and that on the 7th day a childs Vitimin K level is the highest.
How the fuk would anyone have known that 4000 years ago. People have been circumsizing their children since the days of Abraham! and just now the gooberment is trying to force us to imunize teen girls agains papaloma virus!
Maybe your not as smart as God...
Thank you for blogging about this
blessed be
lildevilx
Keep trying! One day maybe you'll learn to communicate a thought.
The question of whether you'll ever have a thought worth communicating remains doubtful, however...
"blessed be
lildevilx"
get a clue dumbass she is the devil....