Is attacking homosexuals, an act of terrorism?

I do not like the word "hate crime". The perps if found can be tried for murder. What worse crime is there than that?

As for terrorism, if the act was to install terror on a group then, by definition, it was an act of terror.

I searched for awhile on the net to find out if the perps or motives were found for the attack but came up empty.

It's a criminal act, but not a terrorist act. There is a difference, and trying to mix the two would dangerously undermine our ability to handle terrorist activities, both before and after the fact.

It's a hate crime.

It cause fear in people. So that is why I consider terrorist attack

Undoubtedly it is a hate crime and since many if not all terrorist acts seems to be hate crimes based on religious beliefs (often the basis for the gay hate crimes as well). Then logically they may also be considered hate crimes as well as acts of terror. It seems they are not considered Terrorist acts because gays are a minority.

Quote: "Terrorism is the systematic use of terror especially as a means of coercion."

If one examines the facts it is obvious that it is the homosexuals that attack those who oppose their agenda to become mainstream.

They have attacked church buildings, peoples homes, cars, and reputations, all because they have spoken out against homosexual "marriage" and or homosexuals being given special rights.

Judges, officials and ordinary citizens have been threatened with injury and death all because they oppose what the homosexual groups are trying to force on people and society.

When a heterosexual person speaks up and out the homosexual immediately screams "attack." In this way they are being oppressive and trying to deny free speech to all who do not agree with them.

We have laws on the books already that apply to all Americans, and if homosexuals cannot live under those laws without special treatment, then let them pack up and go to North Korea. Maybe then they will appreciate what they had here.

Homosexuals who physically attack and threaten others ARE the terrorists.

No, it's a hateful, bully attack. I've had more than enough of the power-drunk DHS classifying this public as terrorists/extremists already, thank you, very much.

"At present, there is no internationally agreed definition of terrorism."

This quote, about sums it up, and is also very profound in explaining how FUBAR so much has become.

Attacking anyone, regardless of orientation, ethnicity, or religion is heinous and it is time we start holding those in the justice system accountable for punishing those who commit violent acts.

We either believe we are all created equal or we don't. If we don't see to it that people are treated equally regardless of color, orientation, religion, or whatever other labels people are too wanton to adopt, then we only have ourselves to blame.

very well said.

Thank you.

No, a hate crime is just that. you dont see the millitary getting sent out over hate crimes in general. essentually we dont know for sure, unless they say ' i did it because i just dont like gays', if its a actual hate crime. maybe they just dont like the person in general. People just think everything that is done is because of the persons race, beliefs or what ever, when in fact it could be they are just an a** that someone got tierd of putting up with

There is no such thing as a hate crime - unless you can read peoples minds. If a white person kills a black person, it's murder and laws against murder are already on the books. To call the murder a hate crime, it would be necessary to read the murderers mind so that you can determine that his motivation was based on hatred for blacks. Has mind reading been perfected yet? I don't think so. Hate crime is a tool of the socialist / progressive agenda. Read Orwell's 1984 if you haven't already and you will understand

Finally someone who understands the facts!! Thank you Wesurroundthem88.

god made it women and man so no if we atack them were helping god out

That is the same argument extreme muslims make to attack Israel and the West. We are the great satan and they are doing God's work

Are you serious? What kind of God do you worship that you don't think he is more than capable of handling matters without the help of man?

You certainly do NOT represent Bible Christians. Your doctrine is perverted and NOT of God.
The Bible teaches that we live peaceably with all men as much as we are able. It also tells us that God will deal with the unrighteous.

Yours is not a doctrine of truth but of hate and there is a difference. I do not approve of homosexuality, and do not believe one can be a practicing homosexual and a Christian at the same time. My responsibility ends once I have spoken the truth of the word of God to the situation and in no way am I to "help God out."

By the way, how many profiles do you have on SH? I see you signed up 19 hours ago...

i'm really not sure. by what some people say that would mean that if some person goes and kills a hobo (which many hobo's have actually been targeted already [seriously!!! google it!!!]) in a homeless shelter, that would be terrorism.

as a person of the GLBT community and as an American Voting Adult - I honestly think since 9/11/01 the use of the word Terrorism has been overused and used wrongly in many situations

ANY act of violences is an act of terrorism.

Uh duh.

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and also act of stupidity and ignorance

It fills them with terror, so yes.

I'm a straight woman. Are you suggesting I would be filled with any less terror?

Well being that they attacked a homosexual community possibly.

I happened to have lived in a homosexual community on a couple of occasions when I lived on Esplanade Street in New Orleans as well as a section of the Marigny. I can tell you that I would be no less terrified if I were attacked than any of my neighbors or friends. There might have been, and most likely were, gay people who would have been less terrified than myself.

It is the act and the emotion elicited that is hateful and despicable. Our measure of fear is one that is personal and varied in range. I believe it is the rare soul who would feel less fear than anyone else when attacked. For the most part, all of us being human would have the same reaction under those circumstances.

I agree. To be honest I was not sure what your original comment was aimed at.

You're right. I was mistakenly vague before.

No problem :)
Be well!

Thank you. You too.

i hope I did not misconstrue your comment, but women also have to live in fear. They have to worry about walking down the street and not being harassed, raped or worst. Being a straight male this is something i never think of when walking down the street. But I have walked down streets of some developing countries that would make the worst streets in NY seem safe. Its a very uneasy feeling and I thank for the security we have here in the US.

But this is the feeling that I can only imagine that homosexuals have to go through. Worried about walking down a street and being attacked. Of course there are places, (San Fran, New Orleans, NY) where they feel more secure. But there are many other places where I imagine they do have to be cautious and walk down the street in fear. Fear is worst then death.

Can any homosexual express their feelings when they walk down a street where they are known to be gay?

Well, I am a woman and kind of figured that would go without saying. I have also walked many, many streets in New Orleans and know the feeling of looking over my shoulder.

I don't think that fear is limited to homosexuals as I explained down below.

I can't walk certain places with confidence in just about any town or city. I have to worry about whether someone wants to rape, rob me, con me. I refuse, always have, to let that fear rule me. Do you know why there are places such as those cities you listed and more where homosexuals can walk around without so much fear? Because they said, "Screw it! I am what I am." And, they support each other. It is actually a cue many people should consider.

Ignorance and hate aren't going anywhere so long as the rest of society doesn't take it upon themselves to stand up for their fellow citizen regardless of what walk of life he or she comes from. I don't think segregating the crimes will help matters, but perpetuate hate and strays from the point that we are all equal.

Being in NY during Sept. 11, 2001 I remember the constant fear afterwards that we could again be attacked. This was constantly reinforced by all the soldiers on the streets. I imagine this is how many Israeli's feel. Always worrying what may happen today. Is this how homosexual's feel when they leave the house everyday?

It is also felt by many of my friends who live in the projects, shrimpster. I have friends who won't take later than the 10 pm bus to get back home because they fear going back home. They will spend money for a taxi, that is one who that is willing to go to the projects, rather than save money by taking the bus.

I imagine Palestinians in Israel feel no less pressure or fear than those people in the homosexual community.

It is horrible for anyone to have to live with fear like that, constantly looking over your shoulder, wondering if today is going to be the day you get yours.

I don't know, nor am I arrogant enough to believe I could solve the problems in Israel if I did, but I do know we have plenty enough harassment and intolerance right here on our own homefront to deal with and it isn't restrictive to orientation, ethnicity, or religion.

Look at the intolerance on the political front amongst all walks of life. It is horrendous. And, it's destroying us. It seems to me when we hear of someone on the news who has been brutalized, communities should rally together and see justice in our court systems for the person as a fellow citizen, a fellow human being. Just like anything else, I suppose it takes one person to make things happen. Maybe, you, myself, and others here could decide to be that person.

why cant they be happy they are just people just like us

I don't understand what you mean. Too many pronouns to understand what you are saying about who.