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Is ADHD a Fictional Disease?

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Child neurologist Fred Baughman wrote a piece for The Mark accusing ADHD of being a fictional disease that was developed simply to market and sell bogus prescription medication to kids who don't even need it.

[I]t seems clear that in the ’50s, as the first psychiatric drugs came to market, that psychiatry – in cahoots with the pharmaceutical industry – came upon the market strategy of, “Well, we’ll call these things ‘diseases.’” And the prototypical invented disease was called ADHD.

Baughman prefers the term "behavior" when referring to ADHD, instead of disease, implying that it is something that should be addressed with therapy or discipline.

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  • Lee The Hybrid Snowflake 2011/05/27 04:24:58
    No
    Lee The Hybrid Snowflake
    +1
    No, however I think too many children are labeled as having ADD or ADHD that are just immature or have behavorial issues but I know it's real.
  • Myrle Hulme 2011/05/20 09:28:41
    No
    Myrle Hulme
    +1
    Unfortunately not, my grand son has it
  • NativeNH1 2011/05/20 03:34:29
    No
    NativeNH1
    +3
    My son has ADD (no hyperactivity) and one of my aides has ADHD. They are so much alike, it's funny. Having been around and lived with people who have ADD or ADHD, I KNOW it is real.
  • Suzy 2011/05/20 00:53:55
    Yes
    Suzy
    +1
    It's not a disease. It is a syndrome - but not a disease.
  • davidl Suzy 2011/05/20 21:24:04
    davidl
    Read this from the wikipedia write-up, that quotes the various AMA journals, but clearly genetic. Why do you think that drugs which increate levels of dopamine calm us all down and help us focus?

    The simple fact is that dopamine is too low, and stimulants raise dopamine to "normal" levels.
    This is why it helps us focus & concentrate, and quite frankly, is something like a sleeping pill for those of us who need it. If you have NORMAL dopamine levels, then you get high, you get addicted, and you go to jail for having them in your possession.


    =
    "Twin studies indicate that the disorder is highly heritable and that genetics are a factor in about 75 percent of all cases.[25] Hyperactivity also seems to be primarily a genetic condition; however, other causes do have an effect.[41]
    Researchers believe that a large majority of ADHD cases arise from a combination of various genes, many of which affect dopamine transporters. Candidate genes include α2A adrenergic receptor, dopamine transporter, dopamine receptors D2/D3,[42] dopamine beta-hydroxylase monoamine oxidase A, catecholamine-methyl transferase, serotonin transporter promoter (SLC6A4), 5HT2A receptor, 5HT1B receptor,[43] the 10-repeat allele of the DAT1 gene,[44] the 7-repeat allele of the DRD4 gene,[44] and the dopamine beta hydro...
    Read this from the wikipedia write-up, that quotes the various AMA journals, but clearly genetic. Why do you think that drugs which increate levels of dopamine calm us all down and help us focus?

    The simple fact is that dopamine is too low, and stimulants raise dopamine to "normal" levels.
    This is why it helps us focus & concentrate, and quite frankly, is something like a sleeping pill for those of us who need it. If you have NORMAL dopamine levels, then you get high, you get addicted, and you go to jail for having them in your possession.


    =
    "Twin studies indicate that the disorder is highly heritable and that genetics are a factor in about 75 percent of all cases.[25] Hyperactivity also seems to be primarily a genetic condition; however, other causes do have an effect.[41]
    Researchers believe that a large majority of ADHD cases arise from a combination of various genes, many of which affect dopamine transporters. Candidate genes include α2A adrenergic receptor, dopamine transporter, dopamine receptors D2/D3,[42] dopamine beta-hydroxylase monoamine oxidase A, catecholamine-methyl transferase, serotonin transporter promoter (SLC6A4), 5HT2A receptor, 5HT1B receptor,[43] the 10-repeat allele of the DAT1 gene,[44] the 7-repeat allele of the DRD4 gene,[44] and the dopamine beta hydroxylase gene (DBH TaqI).[45] A common variant of a gene called LPHN3 is estimated to be responsible for about 9% of the incidence of ADHD, and ADHD cases where this gene is present are particularly responsive to stimulant medication.[46]
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  • mm61675 davidl 2012/05/17 20:12:18
    mm61675
    wikipedia is NOT reliable
  • Tally Knighte 2011/05/20 00:15:15
    No
    Tally Knighte
    Some of my friends have it. Not positive if it is real, because my friends that ought to have it haven't been diagnosed with it. Seriously, this girl jumps around the room and sings at random. She stood up and walked in circles during class, and when the teacher asked why, she responded "I don't know" and giggled while sitting back at her desk. And she's not diagnosed. But the guy that's ADD only clicks pens and drums.
  • lisaokapi 2011/05/19 23:33:12
    No
    lisaokapi
    +2
    My daughter has ADD. She has never been on medication. One of the doctors I took her to was a doctor who studied with a neurologist. They came to the conclusion that ADHD and ADD stem from an under developed parts of the brain. My daughters attention and her posture would all change when stimulated visually. Very interesting research. It isnt fictional though.
  • Wonder ... lisaokapi 2011/05/19 23:46:54
  • lisaokapi Wonder ... 2011/05/20 01:05:11
    lisaokapi
    where did you learn this info? Books? Which ones? I would like to read them.
  • Wonder ... lisaokapi 2011/05/20 01:59:49
  • thegaln... lisaokapi 2011/05/20 17:06:14
    thegalnextdoor
    +1
    the tutor I hired for my daughter was able to find visual methods of teaching her and they work! Glad you did your research for your daughter.
  • amcsquizzy 2011/05/19 23:27:04
    No
    amcsquizzy
    +1
    i know pleanty of people who have it
  • . 2011/05/19 22:31:46
    No
    .
    +3
    who the heck said it wasn't that person must be a mega idiot.theres a big difference between ADHD and being just plain rude.
  • jubil8 BN-0 PON 2011/05/19 22:24:30
    No
    jubil8 BN-0 PON
    +4
    I normally don't answer SH polls that don't offer an undecided or neither option -- but this one doesn't need one.

    I have a friend with a daughter who's ADD whom I taught in an after-school class with 9 other kids this year (all 10-11 yo). The contrast between her ability to concentrate and ALL the other kids was incredible. She's also learning Hebrew with a friend of her grandmother's, and the friend said that the difference between her behavior on her meds and when she's forgotten to take them is unbelievable.

    This is not a spoiled child whose Mom lets her run amok, this is a girl with a condition.

    I totally agree that Big Pharma has done more damage to us than nearly anyone can imagine, but that doesn't mean that all the conditions it purports to be able to treat are unreal. It merely means that pills aren't necessarily the best line of defense.

    Baughman also doesn't believe in depression. I have it; it's real. This makes me all the more willing to say that ADHD is real too.
  • NativeNH1 jubil8 ... 2011/05/20 03:37:29
    NativeNH1
    +1
    Great response! This guy doesn't believe in depression, either?? What a fool!
  • thegaln... jubil8 ... 2011/05/20 17:08:16
    thegalnextdoor
    +1
    thank you for a very well thought out answer.
  • JWoods0417 2011/05/19 21:57:11
    Yes
    JWoods0417
    I think so... But what the hell do I know? I just think that now days there's a diagnosis for every little thing, and I find it suspicious.
  • Sparky 2011/05/19 20:57:23
    No
    Sparky
    +1
    1 out of the 4 beautiful children i have has ADHD , and his whole little world is soo very different and hard to understand at times for him and anyone around him!
  • Wonder Woman 2011/05/19 20:55:47 (edited)
  • your fa... Wonder ... 2011/05/19 21:51:50 (edited)
    your favourite worst nightmare
    +3
    I have legit ADHD and I walked, read, and started school wayyy early. Thank you for sharing this information. It's really interesting and now I'm aware of several factors that may have contributed to my ADHD.
  • Wonder ... your fa... 2011/05/19 22:24:27
  • jubil8 ... Wonder ... 2011/05/19 22:04:58
    jubil8 BN-0 PON
    +1
    That's very interesting!
  • lisaokapi Wonder ... 2011/05/19 23:35:45
    lisaokapi
    +1
    wow read my post above we said the same thing! Amazing
  • NativeNH1 Wonder ... 2011/05/20 03:40:57
    NativeNH1
    Interesting. My son crawled plenty as an infant, however. There must be more to it than too little time spent crawling.
  • Wonder ... NativeNH1 2011/05/20 03:47:00 (edited)
  • NativeNH1 Wonder ... 2011/05/20 06:10:05 (edited)
    NativeNH1
    +1
    True. There can be many causes of a disorder or disease.
  • thegaln... Wonder ... 2011/05/20 17:12:55
    thegalnextdoor
    +1
    interesting that G-d forbade sexual relations during a woman's time.... he always has a reason for something and it just takes us a while to learn what that reason is....
  • Wonder ... thegaln... 2011/05/20 17:41:38
  • thegaln... Wonder ... 2011/05/20 17:10:42
    thegalnextdoor
    +1
    interesting research thanks.... my daughter didn't crawl but neither did I leave her in a car seat... she scooted....and she had access to the whole house.
  • Wonder ... thegaln... 2011/05/20 17:47:25
  • thegaln... Wonder ... 2011/05/21 04:49:49
    thegalnextdoor
    my daughter had dreams of bars of color falling on her when she was less than a year old.... I noticed her having night terrors and asked G-d to let me see what she was seeing and even I was terrified. She has a very quick mind but difficulty getting the information out...normal school - sit in your seat and be quiet just didn't work for her.
  • Wonder ... thegaln... 2011/05/21 05:13:04
  • thegaln... Wonder ... 2011/05/21 05:15:16
    thegalnextdoor
    +1
    thanks Michele -- her larger area right now is work relationships...and I encourage her as much as possible to remember that there's one in every place that will bug you... ya gotta work around it and try to ignore.
  • GrEtNa DRAGONS#62 2011/05/19 20:53:05 (edited)
    No
    GrEtNa DRAGONS#62
    +2
    NO NO NO NO NO NO NO!! My brother, who is 11 years old, has ADD, ADHD, and OCD. His main problem is the ADHD! For not only him but our family life has been a struggle with things, because he takes every small problem as if it were a huge crisis. He has major problems with his school work and doesn't get along with many people. To him, everything is his own little world and he will do whatever he wants with it. Lately he has been on some medication that has actually been helping him, but it doesn't work completely, because when he comes off that medicine it goes all down hill. Most people think of ADHD as the disease where people can't sit still. Well that is nothing but a big stereotype, and even though yes that does happen, it is not all that happens! ADHD is completely real! And I should know considering my brother and his ADHD! So i assure you that it is not fictional and is truly a disease.
  • NativeNH1 GrEtNa ... 2011/05/20 03:42:14
    NativeNH1
    +1
    Great reply! You explained ADHD very well.
  • thegaln... GrEtNa ... 2011/05/20 17:13:56
    thegalnextdoor
    sometimes the ADHD is not physical but auditory or visual... for sure.
  • Joanna the Great 2011/05/19 20:26:39
    No
    Joanna the Great
    +5
    it's way WAY over-diagnosed, but certainly not fictional. Anyone who meets my sister would never again doubt the existence of ADHD...
  • Keen Tojones 2011/05/19 20:22:25
    No
    Keen Tojones
    +2
    There are ways of reducing the intelligent to absolute freaks.
  • Dancingintherain---BN-0 2011/05/19 20:17:19
    No
    Dancingintherain---BN-0
    +3
    It's real, however, docters can be a little quick to diagnose it in patients.
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