I'm not gay but I support gay rights because I believe in FREEDOM OF LOVE..... What you say?
Woman of many faces~ijm
2012/07/19 18:00:17
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bags the Indigenous Guru 2012/07/19 18:16:28
I am not for gay marriage.
Yes, to civil unions.
And you could very, very easily change "race" with "sexual orientation" and get the same case.
Besides, I was also talking about the over 1,000 benefits that married couples can get while others cannot. A committed gay couples and their family shouldn't be bereft of these things while heterosexuals get the privilege simply because they are the majority. Just google it if you want to know some of these benefits!
http://people.howstuffworks.c...
People can love each other regardless of gender already; however, what they want to be legally permissible is to have sex with each other and be afforded marriage entitlements.
I don't agree that gay sex should be legally acceptable and afforded traditional marriage entitlements which are built on being a family. It would change the family structure in drastic and needless ways. It would do all of this so gay people can have sex, violate the natural course of producing life, and to have all these entitlements through scientific advancements. I find this to be abusive and exploitative. However, that is me.
Everyone can believe and think whatever they want, just throwing my thoughts out there.
Take care,
When people argue against gay marriage, I've noticed that arguments generally amount to either, "God doesn't like it," or "It's unnatural and makes me uncomfortable". If you can't argue a morality issue (because that's what this is to religion, a morality issue) from a secular point of view, you can't justify forcing other's to abide by your religion's rules on it, not does it matter if it disgusts some people (If I'm disgusted by toenails, is that an argument to force everyone to wear socks with their sandals?) then you have no argument.
For example:
1. Petri-dish babies would become more prominent.
2. The family structure will be legally changed.
3. Their children will be subjected to a world where it's legally acceptable to have sex witth the same sex which will degrade their morality.
4. Creates division between the sexes by promoting self-love (loving similarities of your same sex over the differences of the other).
5. And so fourth: I can go on indefinitely about all of the ways which changing the family structure would change the world and all in it.
It's a moral issue without religion involved: No one is being harmed by it, so why can';t I do it: that is a moral dilemma.
Furthermore, I compare gay sex to bestiality, incest, pedophilia, and etc... Therefore, my argument would be that they are equally detrimental to society. It degrades our moral/spiritual foundation which effects all parts of our reality. I wouldn't wish to live in Rome which went down the same road.
Moreover, it being unnatural is a valid point: marriage is for union between man and women and to create an offspring. Gay sex circumvents this purpose, unnaturally so, yet wants to be afforded all the rights of m...
For example:
1. Petri-dish babies would become more prominent.
2. The family structure will be legally changed.
3. Their children will be subjected to a world where it's legally acceptable to have sex witth the same sex which will degrade their morality.
4. Creates division between the sexes by promoting self-love (loving similarities of your same sex over the differences of the other).
5. And so fourth: I can go on indefinitely about all of the ways which changing the family structure would change the world and all in it.
It's a moral issue without religion involved: No one is being harmed by it, so why can';t I do it: that is a moral dilemma.
Furthermore, I compare gay sex to bestiality, incest, pedophilia, and etc... Therefore, my argument would be that they are equally detrimental to society. It degrades our moral/spiritual foundation which effects all parts of our reality. I wouldn't wish to live in Rome which went down the same road.
Moreover, it being unnatural is a valid point: marriage is for union between man and women and to create an offspring. Gay sex circumvents this purpose, unnaturally so, yet wants to be afforded all the rights of marriage which consecrates a family. However, Gay people can love people without needing sex, sex which biologically is used for the creation of life and to join man and woman. Therefore, what entitlements do they have towards that effect? We should support the abuse of our biology and our family structure for lustful pleasure?
Take care,
1) What's wrong with petri-dish babies? Furthermore, gays are also very likely to adopt and give a loving home to a child who needs one.
2) The family structure changing isn't a bad thing. The family structure has changed a lot in the past hundred years alone-- women got proper rights and now a two working parent household is normal, and single parents are considered the norm.
3) Everyone knows it exists, and even though gay marriage is not legal, nobody is getting arrested on the streets for being gay. And it can't degrade their morality if it's not wrong-- your religion might say it is, and feel free to teach your kids that, but until you can prove that it's morally wrong from a secular standpoint...
4) Allow gays will not make children grow up to be gay, just like disallowing it won't make them straight.
Gay sex cannot be compared to bestiality or pedophilia because gay sex is between two consenting self-aware adults. Incest is in the grey area of that because while it can be between two consenting adults, it's wrong because any offspring you may produce is at high risk. There's a possibility that someone could suffer from the act. Furthermore, while it may happen between ...
1) What's wrong with petri-dish babies? Furthermore, gays are also very likely to adopt and give a loving home to a child who needs one.
2) The family structure changing isn't a bad thing. The family structure has changed a lot in the past hundred years alone-- women got proper rights and now a two working parent household is normal, and single parents are considered the norm.
3) Everyone knows it exists, and even though gay marriage is not legal, nobody is getting arrested on the streets for being gay. And it can't degrade their morality if it's not wrong-- your religion might say it is, and feel free to teach your kids that, but until you can prove that it's morally wrong from a secular standpoint...
4) Allow gays will not make children grow up to be gay, just like disallowing it won't make them straight.
Gay sex cannot be compared to bestiality or pedophilia because gay sex is between two consenting self-aware adults. Incest is in the grey area of that because while it can be between two consenting adults, it's wrong because any offspring you may produce is at high risk. There's a possibility that someone could suffer from the act. Furthermore, while it may happen between two consenting adults, considering the way humans work, it usually isn't between two sane, willing individuals.
Your argument about gay marriage not being able to produce a family (besides adoption and petri-dish babies, which are perfectly fine ways to have a family) does not level out. Should infertile couples not be allowed to get married either? What about an older woman remarrying after her husband passes who has already passed the age where she can reproduce? Should they not be allowed to abuse their biology? The thing that makes one gay is being sexually attracted to their own gender, so there's no point denying them that. They can't help it. What gay people do behind closed door has no affect on the families of the nation. And, furthermore, I don't see how you could consider something morally wrong because of that. It doesn't offend me that people express their love similar to how straight couples do and I don't see how it can offend anyone. If it just grosses you out and makes you uncomfortable... well, see my first post on why that's not a valid argument for denying them.
And claiming that there is no choice is pure crap.
I was a Supernumerary at OPUS DEI and an EDUCATOR at RETAMAR SCHOOL for THIRTY THREE years, the same age of CHRIST on EARTH and I support the HOMOSEXUAL RIGHTS, because I believe in LOVE that takes YOU to JUSTICE and then to PEACE at PERSONAL, COLLECTIVE, NATIONAL and INTERNATIONAL LEVELS. http://images.sodahead.com/pr... http://images.sodahead.com/pr...
we born to love in opposite sex....
like the magnetic theory said south pole to south pole repel... but opposite pole will attract
one more unrelated paralelle later...