If the Health Care Act is shot down in court will you be a burden on the tax payers by not having Health Insurance?
antiteaparty
2012/03/29 16:34:03
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Many people don't have Health Insurance and if ACA is ruled unconstitutional will you become a low life that won't have Insurance and when you need to go to the Hospital will the Tax Payers be stuck with your bill? Or will you end up going bankrupt because you can't pay your medical bills and again become a burden on the rest of us?
Yeah and don't say I have Health Care through my work so I will always be covered because you can't predict that the company you work for won't fire you or close the doors and that would leave you without Insurance and a burden on everyone... Also just imagine if you had a preexisting condition before you were let go and you can't get insurance with a new company...
No one in these times can say I will never get sick or injured... and when you do without insurance you then become a burden on everyone else!
Yeah and don't say I have Health Care through my work so I will always be covered because you can't predict that the company you work for won't fire you or close the doors and that would leave you without Insurance and a burden on everyone... Also just imagine if you had a preexisting condition before you were let go and you can't get insurance with a new company...
No one in these times can say I will never get sick or injured... and when you do without insurance you then become a burden on everyone else!
Top Opinion
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The Health Care Act will survive
+7HA! IF the cons are screaming now WAIT until they have to pay for the thousands and thousands that have or about to loose their insurance. They better PRAY it passes. http://indiedesign.typepad.co... http://weaselzippers.us/wp-co...
This bill is far from perfect but it's better than the current system...
Universal Health Care is what this country needs and needs now!
The Massachusetts law is a state law, which is not reliant upon the specific federal constitutional clauses under consideration by the SC, such as the Commerce Clause. I don't know that that necessarily makes Massachusetts' law constitutional though. I'm not a fan of mandates even statewide and would oppose them, too, but I do recognize the states have broader powers over their own citizens.
The ACA provision you mention to help the poor get health care potentially does soften the harshness of the individual mandate - I'd agree it makes it slightly less egregious. I also realize getting the American public on board with Universal Health Care is an uphill fight. I see mandates to buy private insurance as counterproductive to getting there, but I've also noted elsewhere that, should the mandate here, in this instance, be overturned, the fight for single-payer will be helped, not hurt. Fox News now agrees: http://www.foxnews.com/opinio...
Now for mandates... The Government mandates SS and Medicare payments and that's Consitutional.... They also once mandated Conscription and they mandates that all Men over the age of 18 registar for selective service.... So mandates by the Federal Government isn't unconstitutional...
A salution for this all is if this fails, Obama could expand Medicare to those that make under x amount of money and allow people to join it or not but if you don't have insurence then you can't declare bankruptcy for medical costs and make them collectable for life...
It's very clear that during the 2008 campaign and prior, Obama disliked the mandate concept (he said solving the health care problem by mandating people buy insurance made about as much sense as solving the housing problem by mandating that everybody buy a home), and here's a tape of him saying that, lest anyone think I'm making this up: http://nation.foxnews.com/hea... Our president made a concession - I'm not upset with him over it; it's politics, and it will still help a lot of people overall - but he made a concession to accept this Republican mandate idea, in order to get as much as he could that liberals wanted. (Inexplicably, once this was picked up by liberals, conservatives turned and decried it - that makes no sense to me either, but that's what happened.)
Whom I was referring to above when I mentioned the choice between food and health premiums some may have to make (and I probably could have been clearer ...
It's very clear that during the 2008 campaign and prior, Obama disliked the mandate concept (he said solving the health care problem by mandating people buy insurance made about as much sense as solving the housing problem by mandating that everybody buy a home), and here's a tape of him saying that, lest anyone think I'm making this up: http://nation.foxnews.com/hea... Our president made a concession - I'm not upset with him over it; it's politics, and it will still help a lot of people overall - but he made a concession to accept this Republican mandate idea, in order to get as much as he could that liberals wanted. (Inexplicably, once this was picked up by liberals, conservatives turned and decried it - that makes no sense to me either, but that's what happened.)
Whom I was referring to above when I mentioned the choice between food and health premiums some may have to make (and I probably could have been clearer - I apologize if I wasn't) was a) people who may be in transition, in pay, in job, in life circumstance, which the provisions in the Act may not have accounted for, and b) the much larger number of people - potentially - who could face hardship as premiums rise if (as per the author's premise) the mandate is struck down by the court.
I'm totally with you and the author in principle, I just don't like this mandate, and people seem to forget the mandate was the brainchild of the Heritage Foundation and that Gingrich had a hand in its conceptualization and selling to the American public. It's a conservative idea, in my mind, not a liberal one.
Avoiding therefore to slip into fine detail and complicated arguments;
The more people who believe that when they work that they also work for their country-the less problems and the higher the general quality of living for all.United we stand-divided we fall.
The German social security system covers unemployment, health, pension, sickness, and carer's insurance, as well as maternity benefits and child allowances and is funded by contributions from the employed, employers and self-employed as well as the state, in four insurance schemes:
* Health insurance (Krankenversicherung)
* Unemployment insurance (Arbeitslosenversicherung)
* Nursing care insurance (Pflegeversicherung)
* Pension insurance (Rentenversicherung)
The people covered are:
* Employed persons (including apprentices)
* Most self-employed persons
* Carers for children under the age of three
* Recipients of social benefits (for example unemployment benefit)
* Conscripted soldiers or those doing community service instead of military service.
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Notice Mel didn't provide proof....