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If someone was burglarizing your home, would you kill them?

BobbyOdd 2012/06/10 13:41:06
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  • BackWoodsMike 2012/06/10 21:27:28
    yes
    BackWoodsMike
    +10
    Professional advice..

    If a individual (or individuals) enters a home, knowing that it is occupied, chances are that they are not there just to commit a common burglary.

    Although laws vary from State to State, most States have a “Castle Doctrine” that covers use of deadly force.

    In the State of TN we have the following.
    T.C.A. 39-11-611, or what we commonly refer to as the Castle Act.
    http://www.state.tn.us/sos/ac...

    Basically it states that in your own dwelling, if you feel threatened or you believe that anyone who is legally inside your dwelling, is being threatened to the point of fear of bodily harm, deadly force is justified.

    For those who believe they can some how subdue a subject until the Police get there, I can only tell you that most the time that is a fruitless effort (especially if that subject is high on drugs), and we usually end up arriving at scenes like these.

    Petit family, rape, murder
    http://topics.nytimes.com/top...

    Brutal home invasion & rape leads to 80 year old woman's death!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?...

    Woman raped and robed during home invasion
    http://www.nbcphiladelphia.co...

    We would much rather arrive on the scene where the family is safe, and the intruder is in need of EMS.
    Professional advice..

    If a individual (or individuals) enters a home, knowing that it is occupied, chances are that they are not there just to commit a common burglary.

    Although laws vary from State to State, most States have a “Castle Doctrine” that covers use of deadly force.

    In the State of TN we have the following.
    T.C.A. 39-11-611, or what we commonly refer to as the Castle Act.
    http://www.state.tn.us/sos/ac...

    Basically it states that in your own dwelling, if you feel threatened or you believe that anyone who is legally inside your dwelling, is being threatened to the point of fear of bodily harm, deadly force is justified.

    For those who believe they can some how subdue a subject until the Police get there, I can only tell you that most the time that is a fruitless effort (especially if that subject is high on drugs), and we usually end up arriving at scenes like these.

    Petit family, rape, murder
    http://topics.nytimes.com/top...

    Brutal home invasion & rape leads to 80 year old woman's death!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?...

    Woman raped and robed during home invasion
    http://www.nbcphiladelphia.co...

    We would much rather arrive on the scene where the family is safe, and the intruder is in need of EMS.
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  • DM Twin 2012/06/10 17:02:23
    yes
    DM Twin
    Intruder....inside my locked home.... stealing my posessions....dead , period .
  • La DM Twin 2012/06/10 23:59:59
    La
    You value the items you own over a human life? :/
  • DM Twin La 2012/06/11 01:31:52
  • Papillon 2012/06/10 17:00:23
    yes
    Papillon
    +1
    Nowadays, burglars are into the kill. Most of them are, anyway. I'm not gonna go out there and ask them if they would please just take all of my valuables and not kill me or my wife. I'm not gonna ask if they are the good burglars or the ones that want to kill me. I'm gonna shoot to kill. they brought this attitude on themselves.

    Maggot mutants want to turn their aggressiveness towards me are not in for a pleasant evening. And, not shooting to kill will give them a chance to either kill or sue me.

    Remember Bernie Goetz? He did time for killing and maiming the thugs that were threatening his life on the subway. Did they go to jail? NO. Bernie went to jail for defending himself, and was sued by the ones that survived.

    Seem fair to you? His life was ruined just because he defended himself. Tells me that the government isn't out to protect the citizens. So we need to protect ourselves. It's war, and we, not they, must survive.
  • starguide 2012/06/10 17:00:03
    other
    starguide
    +3
    no,,, unless its a life or death situation
  • Papillon starguide 2012/06/10 17:02:10
    Papillon
    +1
    Burglars in the house at 4am isn't a life or death situation?
  • starguide Papillon 2012/06/10 23:18:07
    starguide
    +1
    no... it could be a couple of teens taling a laptop or tv

    no reason to kill them
  • Papillon starguide 2012/06/11 00:29:12
  • urwutuis 2012/06/10 16:59:54
    other
    urwutuis
    +2
    The number of yes votes is an indication of our further decline into the madness created by our current system where things and the accumulation of personal wealth take precedence over people.
    I'd be willing to bet that most of them also claim to be pro life.
  • Papillon urwutuis 2012/06/10 17:10:21
    Papillon
    +1
    Well, according to your screen name, you are a self congratulating condescending son of a bi@tc#.

    Who gave you the right to judge anyone? And what's the matter with being pro life? I guess you'd want to be counted amongst murderers. Child killers, no less. What does that make you?

    Do you know what u is? The question asked if you would defend yourself and yours with deadly force. It didn't ask you for your opinion of those that answered differently than you. Liberal...preach love and acceptance of everyone, but kill babies. Make sense? It probably does, to you.
  • urwutuis Papillon 2012/06/10 20:45:09
    urwutuis
    +1
    Well, excuse me for having an opinion and I didn't judge anyone except liars.
    Apparently you fall into that category if you say you're pro life but you're willing to indiscriminately take a life over material things that are probably insured anyway.

    That's pro life like supporting the war is. My guess is you have no problem with torture either.
    What you practice is pro prenatal life. Once they're out of the womb, screw 'em.

    I don't preach acceptance of everyone and where do you get killing babies from? There's a big difference between a baby and a fetus.
    I don't have to agree with a choice to support the right to have one just like I don't have to agree with someone's opinion to support free speech.

    I understand how difficult these concepts may be for you to grasp. After all, if you think my screen name is in any way self congratulating or condescending you have trouble grasping even the simplest of concepts.
  • Papillon urwutuis 2012/06/10 21:57:22
    Papillon
    I'm out of the office at this time. Leave your name and number and someone will get back to you shortly.
  • Papillon urwutuis 2012/06/10 22:10:58
    Papillon
    You're excused. I stopped reading right there. You blather too much. Run along now; off you go!
  • Papillon urwutuis 2012/06/10 22:16:57
    Papillon
    I read as far as 'excuse me'. You blather too much.

    Anyone that has to strengthen his position with a hundred four dollar words when 3 or 4 fifty cent words will do has a weak position.
  • La Papillon 2012/06/11 00:01:19
    La
    Lol, you replied to the chap THREE times in a row and said practically nothing yourself. Bit of a hypocrite.
  • Papillon La 2012/06/11 00:31:56
    Papillon
    If I'm not interested in their extensive writing, I won't abide it. Continued attempts garner senseless replies in hope that the individual will cease and desist.
  • urwutuis Papillon 2012/06/12 00:56:22
    urwutuis
    +1
    Let me get this straight. You post 3 senseless replies to part of 1 sentence and I blather too much?
    Have you considered that your limited vocabulary and short attention span may be the cause of your comprehension problem?
  • Papillon urwutuis 2012/06/13 16:44:05
    Papillon
    I don't have a comprehension problem. You have one. See my above answer to La.
  • urwutuis Papillon 2012/06/14 00:00:56
    urwutuis
    +1
    I see.
    So you make senseless replies like this to set an example
    Is that supposed to have some significance?

    You haven't made a sensible post in 4 tries

    If you only read the first few words does that comprehension come by osmossis?
  • Papillon urwutuis 2012/06/14 15:51:43
    Papillon
    Talk with you is futile. You are a dangerous breed; you have a 5 dollar vocabulary but the worldview of an illiterate. Go talk to someone that's interested in conversation with morons.
  • urwutuis Papillon 2012/06/14 17:28:11
    urwutuis
    The only exchange of ideas you've offered are the insults and personal attacks often resorted to by weak minded party hacks incapable of adult discussion
    Come back when you grow up
  • Papillon urwutuis 2012/06/22 00:03:05
    Papillon
    I'm crying my eyes out.
  • templer003 2012/06/10 16:56:59
    other
    templer003
    +2
    If they are armed....I'll show no mercy or give any quarter...
    If they are unarmed, they better follow orders to stop, or down they go.... the average responce time of 911
  • King An... templer003 2012/06/10 17:28:19
    King Anti-Christ 666
    +1
    love that quote !
  • Curmudgeon 2012/06/10 16:44:58
    other
    Curmudgeon
    +2
    Since I am in Canada if I do anything I might be charged with assault in court and have to pat damages to the person robbing me. So, I most I can do is detain the guy and wait for the police sadly.
  • Papillon Curmudgeon 2012/06/10 17:16:29
    Papillon
    +1
    You guys aren't allowed to protect your lives? And if you kill or maim an intruder that is threatening your life (anyone coming in your house uninvited has the potential of becoming your murderer) against the threat of death or dismemberment? And protecting that which you own is punishable by imprisonment, and you have to pay damages to the skell who came in your house? I'd revolt!! You get jail; he gets cocoa with marshmallows. Something's wrong with that picture!

    Your country is as beautiful as it gets, but your government doesn't have your health in mind!
  • Curmudgeon Papillon 2012/06/10 17:20:28
    Curmudgeon
    +1
    We had a case a while back where someone broke into a house, fell on the floor and sued the home owner and won. lol

    I would personally have this, silence it, go point blank, and take a page from the movie fargo.

    ruger mark 2
  • Rich Ma... Curmudgeon 2012/06/10 18:06:22
    Rich Matarese
    +1
    Ooh, icky.

    On the other hand, I understand that stuff is really pretty good if you spread it around the rhododendrons.
  • Maddog Curmudgeon 2012/06/10 18:39:12
    Maddog
    +1
    Hey, I have on of those! I mounted a Red Dot Scope on it and it's deadly accurate!
  • Rich Ma... Maddog 2012/06/10 19:50:18
    Rich Matarese
    +2
    A wood-chipper with a Red Dot scope mounted on it?

    Damn, but you take tree surgery a helluva lot more seriously than I've ever done.
  • Papillon Curmudgeon 2012/06/10 21:58:39
    Papillon
    Similar travesties have happened here. That's why I believe as I do.
  • BobbyOdd Curmudgeon 2012/06/19 10:16:19
    BobbyOdd
    this is fun to shoot. i have one too.
  • templer003 Papillon 2012/06/10 20:15:11
    templer003
    It is from Cali.....would you expect anything else from those bums ???
  • templer003 templer003 2012/06/10 20:16:37
    templer003
    Oops was referring to the idiot called urwurtuis...
  • mwg0735 2012/06/10 16:42:41
  • JOMO 2012/06/10 16:42:01
  • La JOMO 2012/06/11 00:02:58
    La
    What would you do if you were uneducated and homeless? You wouldn't break into homes, obviously. How would you keep yourself alive?
  • JOMO La 2012/06/11 00:38:51
    JOMO
    Sorry La.., I do not quite understand the nature of your question as it pertains to the original question posted or my posted response. JOMO
  • La JOMO 2012/06/16 00:45:24
  • JOMO La 2012/06/16 04:20:09
    JOMO
    Well in the first place you are completely correct.., you're way off topic.., but just for the hell of it I will participate in your little musical mind game.

    If someone broke into my home, in the first place I am not going to take the time to interview them to find out their background. I am sure that this information about this individual will come out once their body have been removed and the news reporters do their homework to discover who this person was.

    Now on the other hand if by some stroke of chance this information is presented to me before I decide to shoot him or her.., then I wont aim at their head.., but rest assured they will still get a cap popped in their ass.

    If by some chance you are trying to suggest that just because they had a difficult past they should be given a pass when they "CHOOSE" to try and make someone a victim as a result of their past..., SORRY...! as the ole saying goes..., "That Dog Don't Hunt".

    Here is my question to you..., what if once I catch this criminal breaking into my house and I choose not to bust a cap in their ass and out of their fear of going to jail they decide to kill me or my family or at least try. And as a result.., me or one of my family members gets hurt or killed because I choose to hesitate....?

    Nah......, I think I will ju...
    Well in the first place you are completely correct.., you're way off topic.., but just for the hell of it I will participate in your little musical mind game.

    If someone broke into my home, in the first place I am not going to take the time to interview them to find out their background. I am sure that this information about this individual will come out once their body have been removed and the news reporters do their homework to discover who this person was.

    Now on the other hand if by some stroke of chance this information is presented to me before I decide to shoot him or her.., then I wont aim at their head.., but rest assured they will still get a cap popped in their ass.

    If by some chance you are trying to suggest that just because they had a difficult past they should be given a pass when they "CHOOSE" to try and make someone a victim as a result of their past..., SORRY...! as the ole saying goes..., "That Dog Don't Hunt".

    Here is my question to you..., what if once I catch this criminal breaking into my house and I choose not to bust a cap in their ass and out of their fear of going to jail they decide to kill me or my family or at least try. And as a result.., me or one of my family members gets hurt or killed because I choose to hesitate....?

    Nah......, I think I will just bust a cap in their ass and move on.., you see.., it was not me that made them a victim.., it was them that chose out of all of the choices they could have chose from to force a pick and choose position onto an UNSUSPECTING VICTIM...! JOMO
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