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If someone was burglarizing your home, would you kill them?

BobbyOdd 2012/06/10 13:41:06
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  • BackWoodsMike 2012/06/10 21:27:28
    yes
    BackWoodsMike
    +10
    Professional advice..

    If a individual (or individuals) enters a home, knowing that it is occupied, chances are that they are not there just to commit a common burglary.

    Although laws vary from State to State, most States have a “Castle Doctrine” that covers use of deadly force.

    In the State of TN we have the following.
    T.C.A. 39-11-611, or what we commonly refer to as the Castle Act.
    http://www.state.tn.us/sos/ac...

    Basically it states that in your own dwelling, if you feel threatened or you believe that anyone who is legally inside your dwelling, is being threatened to the point of fear of bodily harm, deadly force is justified.

    For those who believe they can some how subdue a subject until the Police get there, I can only tell you that most the time that is a fruitless effort (especially if that subject is high on drugs), and we usually end up arriving at scenes like these.

    Petit family, rape, murder
    http://topics.nytimes.com/top...

    Brutal home invasion & rape leads to 80 year old woman's death!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?...

    Woman raped and robed during home invasion
    http://www.nbcphiladelphia.co...

    We would much rather arrive on the scene where the family is safe, and the intruder is in need of EMS.
    Professional advice..

    If a individual (or individuals) enters a home, knowing that it is occupied, chances are that they are not there just to commit a common burglary.

    Although laws vary from State to State, most States have a “Castle Doctrine” that covers use of deadly force.

    In the State of TN we have the following.
    T.C.A. 39-11-611, or what we commonly refer to as the Castle Act.
    http://www.state.tn.us/sos/ac...

    Basically it states that in your own dwelling, if you feel threatened or you believe that anyone who is legally inside your dwelling, is being threatened to the point of fear of bodily harm, deadly force is justified.

    For those who believe they can some how subdue a subject until the Police get there, I can only tell you that most the time that is a fruitless effort (especially if that subject is high on drugs), and we usually end up arriving at scenes like these.

    Petit family, rape, murder
    http://topics.nytimes.com/top...

    Brutal home invasion & rape leads to 80 year old woman's death!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?...

    Woman raped and robed during home invasion
    http://www.nbcphiladelphia.co...

    We would much rather arrive on the scene where the family is safe, and the intruder is in need of EMS.
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  • Rich Ma... TheDead... 2012/06/10 19:17:44 (edited)
    Rich Matarese
    +1
    Pardon the cut-and-paste, but your comment effectively demands this:

    ===
    "Gun control" survives as an idea because most Americans believe one single myth:

    "You don’t need a gun because the police protect you from crime."

    If you don’t know exactly why that statement is a lie, then you cannot destroy "gun control."

    If you can’t effectively rebut that statement, then you cannot make the strongest positive case for private firearms ownership.

    Anti-gun lobbyists get away with proposing to completely disarm the citizens only because most citizens just assume the police will protect them. That assumption is false. The police cannot protect everyone -- in fact the police usually have no legal duty to protect anyone.

    [The JPFO's book] *Dial 911 and Die* proves this fact. For nearly every American state and territory, this book shows how the police owe no legal duty to protect individuals from crime. The police in most places do not even have to come when you call.

    Gun prohibitionist lobbyists, politicians and media have sold Americans the myth of police protection. Schools teach youngsters to "Dial 911." There was a television program with "911" in the title. That phone number is perhaps the best known in the country. A generation of Americans has come to trust a telephone number for self- de...






    Pardon the cut-and-paste, but your comment effectively demands this:

    ===
    "Gun control" survives as an idea because most Americans believe one single myth:

    "You don’t need a gun because the police protect you from crime."

    If you don’t know exactly why that statement is a lie, then you cannot destroy "gun control."

    If you can’t effectively rebut that statement, then you cannot make the strongest positive case for private firearms ownership.

    Anti-gun lobbyists get away with proposing to completely disarm the citizens only because most citizens just assume the police will protect them. That assumption is false. The police cannot protect everyone -- in fact the police usually have no legal duty to protect anyone.

    [The JPFO's book] *Dial 911 and Die* proves this fact. For nearly every American state and territory, this book shows how the police owe no legal duty to protect individuals from crime. The police in most places do not even have to come when you call.

    Gun prohibitionist lobbyists, politicians and media have sold Americans the myth of police protection. Schools teach youngsters to "Dial 911." There was a television program with "911" in the title. That phone number is perhaps the best known in the country. A generation of Americans has come to trust a telephone number for self- defense.

    Government authorities and media pundits never told Americans about the dark side of 911. Too many Americans have dialed 911 and died because the police did not or could not help them.
    ===

    The home page is a bit frenetic, but the Web pages of Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership (JPFO) comprise a very effective aggregation site for information on and support of the unalienable individual human right to keep and bear arms.

    See: http://jpfo.org/
    (more)
  • TheDead... Rich Ma... 2012/06/12 21:57:33
    TheDeadAreLiving
    I'm not sure what any of that has to do with anything
  • Kronan_1 TheDead... 2012/06/10 19:57:22
    Kronan_1
    cementary

    How many do you think died while wating for the cops to arrive?
  • TheDead... Kronan_1 2012/06/12 21:57:12
    TheDeadAreLiving
    That's not exactly my problem, now is it? Tons of things could've happened in the time they were waiting. I just know that I'm not gonna say "Yeah, if anyone broke into my house, you're damn right I'm gonna kill him!" because that would be a lie. What I said, that I would call the cops, isn't gonna change.
  • DianaXoGirl 2012/06/10 18:34:14
    yes
    DianaXoGirl
    +1
    Well actually maybe not kill but I would threaten to
  • Truth Matters 2012/06/10 18:29:36 (edited)
    other
    Truth Matters
    +3
    Probably not. Definitely not if it was just a kid. If it were a teenage kid I'de kick his ass and scare the hell out him. I'de let him think about dying.

    I would if it were an adult who became aggressive or seriously threatening, but even then I'de prefer to let him live.
  • melly~t... Truth M... 2012/06/10 19:01:11
    melly~thwarting Satan since 1971
    +6
    Looky there! We agree! happy girl
  • Truth M... melly~t... 2012/06/10 19:08:44
    Truth Matters
    +2
    Imagine that!
  • Rich Ma... melly~t... 2012/06/10 19:20:42
    Rich Matarese
    +2
    "Back off! I've got a cute little girl, and I'm not afraid to unleash her on you!"

    Knowing some of MY granddaughters, I'd pity the fool....
  • melly~t... Rich Ma... 2012/06/10 19:33:06
    melly~thwarting Satan since 1971
    +2
    I have no idea what you are talking about.
  • Rich Ma... melly~t... 2012/06/10 19:39:02
    Rich Matarese
    +2
    Ooh, you "have no idea."

    Big news flash.
  • melly~t... Rich Ma... 2012/06/10 20:08:31
    melly~thwarting Satan since 1971
    +3
    At least you're consistent. Yours must be really miniscule to be that angry. Pity.
  • Rich Ma... melly~t... 2012/06/10 20:12:43
    Rich Matarese
    "Yours must be really miniscule to be that angry."

    Nah. My youngest granddaughter just turned 7, and she's remarkably even-tempered and equitable, though I wouldn't risk crossing her.

    Tallest kid in her class, too. Wait a minute; I'm sure I've got her school picture somewhere here in my wallet....
  • La melly~t... 2012/06/10 23:53:37
    La
    +1
    I think he took your picture, the little girl gasping with joy and surprise, to be an example of "Definitely not if it was just a kid." in TM's comment. Not sure why.....it's pretty obvious what context you used the picture in.
  • melly~t... La 2012/06/11 01:54:15
    melly~thwarting Satan since 1971
    +2
    Ah! Thank you.
  • Smitten... melly~t... 2012/06/11 07:15:39
  • melly~t... Smitten... 2012/06/11 12:10:24
    melly~thwarting Satan since 1971
    +2
    That would be dreamy. A babble-to-English translator.
  • Smitten... melly~t... 2012/06/11 20:37:22
  • Kronan_1 Truth M... 2012/06/10 20:01:24
    Kronan_1
    then you would be here..... cementary
  • Truth M... Kronan_1 2012/06/10 20:32:57
    Truth Matters
    +1
    No, I'm no wussy. I can handle 99% of the idiots out there. I have choices between killing some punk and getting killed.
  • Jazzy 2012/06/10 18:29:02
    yes
    Jazzy
    +4
    I live in Texas. I have the right to shoot someone in my home without my permission. There is just one little catch to it. I will shoot to kill so they cant get better and sue me. LOL
  • Rich Ma... Jazzy 2012/06/10 18:46:32
    Rich Matarese
    +2
    "When in doubt, empty the magazine."

    -- Various sources
  • Jazzy Rich Ma... 2012/06/10 23:03:51
    Jazzy
    yeah but then I could get in trouble for using excessive force. AKA over kill LOL
  • Dave 2012/06/10 18:21:27
    no
    Dave
    +1
    Not if I could be sure they were no threat to my wife or me. Otherwise...
  • Kitty 2012/06/10 18:12:38
    no
    Kitty
    +2
    it's not my place to take a human life.

    (that's my opinion and your opinion can't change that, so save the annoying reply.)
  • melly~t... Kitty 2012/06/10 18:15:23
    melly~thwarting Satan since 1971
    +3
    Exactly! The bloodlust found in some of these responses is disturbing.
  • Kitty melly~t... 2012/06/10 18:24:49
  • Willy Kitty 2012/06/10 19:08:19
    Willy
    +1
    In other words, you would be ready to die, right?
  • melly~thwarting Satan since... 2012/06/10 18:03:39
    no
    melly~thwarting Satan since 1971
    +5
    A person's life for a friggin' TV???
  • Rich Ma... melly~t... 2012/06/10 18:36:07
    Rich Matarese
    +1
    Well, if it's a really NICE television... Sure!
  • melly~t... Rich Ma... 2012/06/10 18:55:21
    melly~thwarting Satan since 1971
    +5
    That's not funny in the slightest. Your cavalier attitude towards murder is disturbing. If you're so attached to your belongings that you think they are worth more than a person's life...you may want to examine your morality.
  • Rich Ma... melly~t... 2012/06/10 19:06:23
    Rich Matarese
    +2
    And you've got your head wedged ALL the way up your own ass, no "slightest" about it.

    Your idiot failure even to look up the definition of "murder" is wonderfully contemptible.

    God send that all the other enemies of our republic should be as incompetent, lazy, and stupid as you're proving yourself to be.
  • melly~t... Rich Ma... 2012/06/10 19:22:12
    melly~thwarting Satan since 1971
    +4
    And you place on value on human life. That's what's contemptible.

    I don't need to look up a word I understand perfectly well.

    The fact that you are trying to bully and hurt me through insipid insults only reaffirms your lack of character. That's all you have--to try to tear people down. That's beyond pathetic--so have at it. Your opinion means less than nothing.
  • Rich Ma... melly~t... 2012/06/10 19:30:44
  • melly~t... Rich Ma... 2012/06/10 20:15:33
    melly~thwarting Satan since 1971
    +3
    Thanks for the laugh. You really need to pump up your ego, don't you? Oooh! I was waiting for the erroneous and half-witted assumptions to come along. You simply can't fathom anything beyond your pig's eye view of the world. Everything must fit in little boxes or else your tiny mind cannot function. If you weren't boring as hell, I'd sooooo ask you to tell me more about your sad little constructs.

    I'm sure that this is the longest conversation you've ever had with a woman, but I must take leave of your company.

    "As for your idiot's noise about my assessment of your ludicrous presentation in this forum, I'm sorry you were incapable of appreciating the trenchant literacy and ingenuity of my writings. "
    Hilarious! Seriously--you are really over-compensating!
  • Rich Ma... melly~t... 2012/06/10 20:20:18 (edited)
    Rich Matarese
    +1
    It's nice to torture "Liberals."

    You can tell you've won the exchange when they abandon even the pretense of argument and do nothing but whine about how nasty you are.
  • melly~t... Rich Ma... 2012/06/10 20:27:24
    melly~thwarting Satan since 1971
    +2
    You've been whining and insulting since the beginning, punkin. By your own standards, you lost a long time ago. But you keep pretending--I know you need it. >pats your head<
  • Willy melly~t... 2012/06/10 19:10:19
    Willy
    +1
    The burglar must have thought the TV was worth more than his life.
  • Rich Ma... Willy 2012/06/10 19:22:34
    Rich Matarese
    +1
    Having treated some of these burglars who've been brought into the Emergency Department after their apprehension, I'd have to say that even an old-and-busted Trinitron is worth more than the average burglar's life.
  • melly~t... Willy 2012/06/10 19:23:18
    melly~thwarting Satan since 1971
    +2
    No--that would be the decision of the person who chose to murder someone over a TV set. I bet you both consider yourselves "pro-life", too.

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