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How many Chinese abortions will you sponsor for Christmas?

Tea in the Harbor 2011/11/21 15:20:21
Just curious how many of you will think about who is going to profit this year from the economic orgy we are about to embark on to celebrate a man whose first requirement from his disciples was a vow of poverty.

We're all probably going to spend way too much again this year, but if we think about how we're spending it we might be able to do something good.

If you spend your money on things from China, you will be moving that money from our society to theirs. From a society that has reproductive choice to one that forces abortions against the will of the parents. I'm pro choice, and I'm just as pro choice for the Chinese as I am for Americans.

When you're out shopping for your loved ones, will you keep in mind that buying an Ipad is sponsoring state forced abortions in China?

Will the thought that the profit is going to a communist nation that is engaging in a massive military buildup and has manipulated the capital market for over two decades cross your mind?

Well it f#@kin should.

Merry Christmas :)

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  • Shae 2011/11/22 14:36:05
    Shae
    +3
    Christmas time becomes more and more stressfull every year.

    I'm not buying anything from China because I'm not buying anything.
    All my gifts this year are for things my family needs or uses regularly.

    My mom..... I'm renewing her gym membership.
    My dad ...... I'm getting his recliner fixed.
    My brother.. I'm paying his student loan payment and his car payment.
    The dog ..... Going for a long walk, eating a piece of bacon, and spending the day at the dog park, after visiting everyone at grandma's house (though with my family she'll probally end up with some bones, tennis balls and squeaky toys).

    Back in the 1800s Christmas was different.
    Everyone just got one gift, usually homemade, they all got together for a huge dinner and dancing, just being together..... That's a nice Christmas.

    Not:

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  • BystroffC 2011/12/21 04:07:36
    BystroffC
    Maybe state-forced abortions are better than the hell of overpopulation, for China....
  • SortingFictionfromTruth 2011/11/24 00:52:23
    SortingFictionfromTruth
    I wish it were as simple as you state. But it is not. Capitalism forces companies to attempt to achieve the highest profits, from the lowest costs. While not buying cheap products from China, is a good step, the ideal fix is to stop the tax breaks to companies which benefit from lower labor costs. And please believe me this is not Republican bashing, it is more anti-lobbyist bashing in general, after all who writes bills now anyway?

    GOP Blocks Bill to Punish Companies that Move Jobs Abroad

    Republicans, with help from a handful of Democrats, used a filibuster to block a measure that would have used the tax code to punish big companies that shut U.S. manufacturing plants and move the jobs overseas.

    The Senate voted 53-45 in favor of the procedural motion, but Democratic leaders needed 60 to take the bill up.

    Current tax law allows companies to benefit in a variety of ways when they move jobs overseas, including deducting the costs of closing American plants. The proposed bill would have raised taxes on companies that move manufacturing jobs out of the country and provide a tax incentive for companies that decide to bring them back.

    Senator Debbie Stabenow, D-MI, said it was an attempt to protect American workers and the bill "sends a simple message: stop shipping our jobs o...

    I wish it were as simple as you state. But it is not. Capitalism forces companies to attempt to achieve the highest profits, from the lowest costs. While not buying cheap products from China, is a good step, the ideal fix is to stop the tax breaks to companies which benefit from lower labor costs. And please believe me this is not Republican bashing, it is more anti-lobbyist bashing in general, after all who writes bills now anyway?

    GOP Blocks Bill to Punish Companies that Move Jobs Abroad

    Republicans, with help from a handful of Democrats, used a filibuster to block a measure that would have used the tax code to punish big companies that shut U.S. manufacturing plants and move the jobs overseas.

    The Senate voted 53-45 in favor of the procedural motion, but Democratic leaders needed 60 to take the bill up.

    Current tax law allows companies to benefit in a variety of ways when they move jobs overseas, including deducting the costs of closing American plants. The proposed bill would have raised taxes on companies that move manufacturing jobs out of the country and provide a tax incentive for companies that decide to bring them back.

    Senator Debbie Stabenow, D-MI, said it was an attempt to protect American workers and the bill "sends a simple message: stop shipping our jobs overseas."

    But Republicans said they worried the bill could hurt the competitiveness of large American companies that still have a lot of American workers even if they do move some manufacturing plants to nations with cheaper labor. anti lobbying
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  • Shae Sorting... 2011/12/03 17:58:36
    Shae
    +1
    In the information age people can research and find out which companies outsource.
    Then can take it upon themselves to only purchase or conduct business with those companies that remain in the US.
    This would creat a market that would only be in the US because the demand for US goods would be high.... basic supply and demand economics.
  • Tea in ... Shae 2011/12/03 18:14:58
    Tea in the Harbor
    +2
    Here's a site I maintain to help people find American products, I hope you find it useful.
    http://politishopper.webs.com/
  • Shae Tea in ... 2011/12/03 18:19:33
    Shae
    +1
    thank u
  • seathanaich 2011/11/22 18:15:17
    seathanaich
    +1
    I hate buying Chinese crap. I try to buy products from Canada, but really, I'll pick anywhere over China.

    And I don't buy Christmas presents for anyone other than we buy a few for the kids that we are planning on getting them anyway. Christmas is about family and traditional food, not useless spending.
  • Shae 2011/11/22 14:36:05
    Shae
    +3
    Christmas time becomes more and more stressfull every year.

    I'm not buying anything from China because I'm not buying anything.
    All my gifts this year are for things my family needs or uses regularly.

    My mom..... I'm renewing her gym membership.
    My dad ...... I'm getting his recliner fixed.
    My brother.. I'm paying his student loan payment and his car payment.
    The dog ..... Going for a long walk, eating a piece of bacon, and spending the day at the dog park, after visiting everyone at grandma's house (though with my family she'll probally end up with some bones, tennis balls and squeaky toys).

    Back in the 1800s Christmas was different.
    Everyone just got one gift, usually homemade, they all got together for a huge dinner and dancing, just being together..... That's a nice Christmas.

    Not:

  • Gloria 2011/11/22 14:33:18
    Gloria
    +2
    I am only buying locally this year.
  • cant beleive walkers gov 2011/11/22 03:05:02
    cant beleive walkers gov
    +1
    its hard but you can find things not made in china
  • Embalmer 2011/11/22 02:28:16
    Embalmer
    +2
    Even if we are purchasing something made in the states, the manufacturer can still have plants for other products in China and they still pay Communist taxes.

    Here, how would anyone ever know?

    AT&T;
    Abercrombe & Fitch
    Abbott Laboratories
    Acer Electronics
    Ademco Security
    Adidas
    ADI Security
    AGI- American Gem Institute
    AIG Financial
    Agrilink Foods, Inc. (ProFac)
    Allergan Laboratories
    American Eagle Outfitters
    American Standard
    American Tourister
    Ames Tools
    Amphenol Corporation
    Amway Corporation
    Analog Devices, Inc.
    Apple Computer
    Armani
    Armour Meats
    Ashland Chemical
    Ashley Furniture
    Associated Grocers
    Audi Motors
    AudioVox
    AutoZone, Inc.
    Avon

    Banana Republic
    Bausch & Lomb, Inc.
    Baxter International
    Bed, Bath & Beyond
    Belkin Electronics
    Best Buy
    Best Foods
    Big 5 Sporting Goods
    Black & Decker
    Body Shop
    Borden Foods
    Briggs & Stratton

    Calrad Electric
    Campbell 's Soup
    Canon Electronics
    Carole Cable
    Casio Instrument
    Caterpillar, Inc.
    CBC America
    CCTV Outlet
    Checker Auto
    CitiCorp
    Cisco Systems
    Chiquita Brands International
    Claire's Boutique
    Cobra Electronics
    Coby Electronics
    Coca Cola Foods
    Colgate-Palmolive
    Colorado Spectrum
    ConAgra Foods
    Cooper Tire
    Corning, Inc.
    Coleman Sporting Goods
    Compaq
    Crabtree & Evelyn
    Cracker Barrel Stores
    Craftsman Tools (see Sears)
    Cummins, Inc.

    Dannon Foods
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    Even if we are purchasing something made in the states, the manufacturer can still have plants for other products in China and they still pay Communist taxes.

    Here, how would anyone ever know?

    AT&T;
    Abercrombe & Fitch
    Abbott Laboratories
    Acer Electronics
    Ademco Security
    Adidas
    ADI Security
    AGI- American Gem Institute
    AIG Financial
    Agrilink Foods, Inc. (ProFac)
    Allergan Laboratories
    American Eagle Outfitters
    American Standard
    American Tourister
    Ames Tools
    Amphenol Corporation
    Amway Corporation
    Analog Devices, Inc.
    Apple Computer
    Armani
    Armour Meats
    Ashland Chemical
    Ashley Furniture
    Associated Grocers
    Audi Motors
    AudioVox
    AutoZone, Inc.
    Avon

    Banana Republic
    Bausch & Lomb, Inc.
    Baxter International
    Bed, Bath & Beyond
    Belkin Electronics
    Best Buy
    Best Foods
    Big 5 Sporting Goods
    Black & Decker
    Body Shop
    Borden Foods
    Briggs & Stratton

    Calrad Electric
    Campbell 's Soup
    Canon Electronics
    Carole Cable
    Casio Instrument
    Caterpillar, Inc.
    CBC America
    CCTV Outlet
    Checker Auto
    CitiCorp
    Cisco Systems
    Chiquita Brands International
    Claire's Boutique
    Cobra Electronics
    Coby Electronics
    Coca Cola Foods
    Colgate-Palmolive
    Colorado Spectrum
    ConAgra Foods
    Cooper Tire
    Corning, Inc.
    Coleman Sporting Goods
    Compaq
    Crabtree & Evelyn
    Cracker Barrel Stores
    Craftsman Tools (see Sears)
    Cummins, Inc.

    Dannon Foods
    Dell Computer
    Del Monte Foods
    Dewalt Tools
    DHL
    Dial Corporation
    Diebold, Inc.
    Dillard's, Inc.
    Dodge-Phelps
    Dole Foods
    Dollar Tree Stores, Inc.
    Dow-Corning

    Eastman Kodak
    EchoStar
    Eclipse CCTV
    Edge Electronics Group
    Electric Vehicles USA, Inc.
    Eli Lilly Company
    Emerson Electric
    Enfamil
    Estee Lauder
    Eveready

    Family Dollar Stores
    FedEx
    Fisher Scientific
    Ford Motors
    Fossil
    Frito Lay
    Furniture Brands International

    GAP Stores
    Gateway Computer
    GE, General Electric
    General Foods International
    General Mills
    General Motors
    Gentek
    Gerber Foods
    Gillette Company
    Goodrich Company
    Goodyear Tire
    Google
    Gucci
    Guess?

    Haagen-Dazs
    Harley Davidson
    Hasbro Company
    Heinz Foods
    Hershey Foods
    Hitachi
    Hoffman-LaRoche
    Holt's Automotive Products
    Hormel Foods
    Home Depot
    Honda Motor
    Hoover Vacuum
    HP Computer
    Honda
    Honeywell
    Hubbell Inc.
    Huggies
    Hunts-Wesson Foods

    ICON Office Solutions
    IBM
    Ikea
    Intel Corporation

    J.C. Penny's
    J.M. Smucker Company
    John Deere
    Johnson Control
    Johnson & Johnson
    Johnstone Supply
    JVC Electronics

    KB Home
    Keebler Foods
    Kenwood Audio
    KFC, Kentucky Fried Chicken
    Kimberly Clark
    Knorr Foods
    K-Mart
    Kohler
    Kohl's Corporation
    Kraft Foods
    Kragen Auto

    Land's End
    Lee Kum Kee Foods
    Lexmark
    LG Electronics
    Lipton Foods
    L.L. Bean, Inc.
    Logitech
    Libby's Foods
    Linen & Things
    Lipo Chemicals, Inc.
    Lowe's Hardware
    Lucent Technologies
    Lufkin

    Mars Candy
    Martha Stewart Products
    Mattel
    McCormick Foods
    McDonald's
    McKesson Corporation
    Megellan GPS
    Memorex
    Merck & Company
    Michael's Stores
    Mitsubishi Electronics
    Mitsubishi Motors
    Mobile Oil
    Molex
    Motorola
    Motts Applesauce
    Multifoods Corporation

    Nabisco Foods
    National Semiconductor
    Nescafe
    Nestles Foods
    Nextar
    Nike
    Nikon
    Nivea Cosmetics
    Nokia Electronics
    Northrop Grumman Corporation
    NuSkin International
    Nutrilite (see Amway)
    Nvidia Corporation (G-Force)

    Office Depot
    Olin Corporation
    Old Navy
    Olympus Electronics
    Orion-Knight Electronics

    Pacific Sunwear, Inc.
    Pamper's
    Panasonic
    Pan Pacific Electronics
    Panvise
    Papa Johns
    Payless Shoesource
    Pelco
    Pentax Optics
    Pep Boy's
    Pepsico International
    PetsMart
    Petco
    Pfizer, Inc.
    Philips Electronics
    Phillip Morris Companies
    Pier 1 Imports
    Pierre Cardin
    Pillsbury Company
    Pioneer Electronics
    Pitney Bowes, Inc.
    Pizza Hut
    Plantronics
    PlaySchool Toys
    Polaris Industries
    Polaroid
    Polo (see Ralph Loren)
    Post Cereals
    Price-Pfister
    Pringles
    Praxair
    Proctor & Gamble
    PSS World Medical
    Pyle Audio

    Qualcomm
    Quest One

    Radio Shack
    Ralph Loren
    RCA
    Reebok International
    Reynolds Aluminum
    Revlon
    Rohm & Hass Company

    Samsonite
    Samsung
    Sanyo
    Shell Oil
    Schwinn Bike
    Sears-Craftsman
    Seven-Eleven (7-11)
    Sharp Electronics
    Sherwin-Williams
    Shure Electronics
    Sony
    Speco Technologies/Pro Video
    Shopko Stores
    Skechers Footwear
    SmartHome
    Smucker's (see J.M. Smucker's)
    Solar Power, Inc.
    Spencer Gifts
    Stanley Tools
    Staple's
    Starbucks Corporation
    Steelcase, Inc.
    STP Oil
    Sunkist Growers
    SunMaid Raisins
    Sunglass Hut
    Sunkist
    Subway Sandwiches
    Switchcraft Electronics
    SYSCO Foods
    Sylvania Electric

    3-M
    Tai Pan Trading Company
    Tamron Optics
    Target
    TDK
    Tektronix, Inc
    Texas Instruments
    Timex
    Timken Bearing
    TNT
    Tommy Hilfiger
    Toro
    Toshiba
    Tower Automotive
    Toyota
    Toy's R Us, Inc.
    Trader Joe's
    Tripp-lite
    True Value Hardware
    Tupper Ware
    Tyson Foods

    Uniden Electronics
    UPS

    Valspar Corporation
    Victoria 's Secret
    Vizio Electronics
    Volkswagen
    VTech

    Walgreen Company
    Walt Disney Company
    Walmart
    WD-40 Corporation
    Weller Electric Company
    Western Digital
    Westinghouse Electric
    Weyerhaeuser Company
    Whirlpool Corporation
    Wilson Sporting Goods
    Wrigley
    WW Grainger, Inc.
    Wyeth Laboratories

    X-10
    Xelite
    Xerox

    Yahoo
    Yamaha
    Yoplait Foods
    Yum Brands

    Zale Corporation
    _____________________________...

    SOURCE: Shipping database. US Customs database. Chinese government publications/database.

    http://www.jiesworld.com/inte...

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  • Sheila Embalmer 2011/11/25 06:44:03
    Sheila
    +1
    That's some impressive--and surprising-- research.
  • JP 2011/11/22 00:27:53
    JP
    +1
    I do my best not to buy anything from China or support politicians who have no answer other than borrow from China.
  • Gregaj7 2011/11/21 22:10:54
    Gregaj7
    "...celebrate a man whose first requirement from his disciples was a vow of poverty." Wherever did you get that idea? I'm one of the few Christians that does NOT celebrate Christmas.
  • Tea in ... Gregaj7 2011/11/21 23:11:10
    Tea in the Harbor
    He demanded not only a vow of poverty, (leaving their worldly goods behind) but also that they leave their families behind to whatever fate awaited them and follow him instead.

    I don't remember any statement in the Bible as to what happened to those people, the traditions of the day would have had them sold into slavery to earn their keep, but the Bible really doesn't say does it?
  • Gregaj7 Tea in ... 2011/11/22 01:34:44
    Gregaj7
    It doesn't state what you think it does. Bring scripture or this dialog is over.
  • Tea in ... Gregaj7 2011/11/22 01:48:38
    Tea in the Harbor
    +2
    This thread is not about the failings of Christianity, it's about whether people are going to spend hundreds of billions of dollars this Christmas season enriching the people who fully intend to replace America as the leader of the world, and who are accomplishing that as we speak.
  • findthelight2000 2011/11/21 21:57:51
    findthelight2000
    +2
    Excellent question, well stated.
  • Diane 2011/11/21 20:10:19
    Diane
    +1
    This is very well thought out. Thank you for posting this- it makes me want to read your other posts/answers and get to know you. It sounds like you have a real handle on the world.
  • twocrows 2011/11/21 20:07:54
    twocrows
    +1
    going to: MJ Fashions and The Creative Branch for most of my stuff this year.
    there is, of course, my science-nerd brother who will receive a Klein Bottle [ a 3D mobius strip] hand blown in Colorado.
    klein bottle
    I'm just hoping the plane flight to his home doesn't prompt it to jump into the 4th dimension - in which case Don will come up empty this year.
  • morning40oz~mad as hell 2011/11/21 19:41:10
  • morning... morning... 2011/11/21 19:45:16
    morning40oz~mad as hell
    +4
    Sadly, as I read through the thread, it seems as though some people neglected to get the point of this message. God forbid you mention WALMART by name, it might be too obvious. God forbid you make it clear that by buying Chinese goods, it legitimizes the legislation--courtesy of GWH Bush, Bill Clinton, and Newt Gingrich-- that has outsourced our jobs and industry trading for crap goods imported from China.
  • moonchild morning... 2011/11/21 21:28:39
    moonchild
    Why limit your disgust to Walmart? If you look at designer clothes you'll see many are produced in sweat shops in China or other countries.. Large corporations (manufacturers) have been outsourcing and producing products overseas for decades now- Walmart is a retailer, and carry many of products produced worldwide- but to take issue with Walmart and not the manufacturer of the products is ridiculous to me. You're going to be hard pressed to find many retailers that don't carry products produced outside the USA.
  • morning... moonchild 2011/11/21 21:47:31
    morning40oz~mad as hell
    +1
    I don't limit my disgust to Walmart. It was an example.
  • Willie morning... 2011/11/23 04:27:46
    Willie
    +1
    Please don't forget Ronald Reagan, who started us down the path of trading America away to the Chinese in exchange for cheap tennis shoes.
  • morning... Willie 2011/11/23 05:04:22
    morning40oz~mad as hell
    How about YOU go back further to when we were truly sold out? The reason OWS is protesting, today, nearly a century too late.
  • kcandi 2011/11/21 19:40:51
    kcandi
    +1
    I try to buy all of my products made in the U.S.A. I don't buy anything from China. Not because I believe everything you said, but I do believe in supporting the U.S.
  • Jackie G - Poker Playing Pa... 2011/11/21 19:28:13
    Jackie G - Poker Playing Patriot
    +1
    No orgy here - I send food (honey baked hams!) to family and give food baskets to those in need!
  • John "By God" American 2011/11/21 19:03:36
    John "By God" American
    +2
    I see for some people it's ok to trade our sovereignty for cheap goods. Good post, Tea...
  • Pieter Joubert 2011/11/21 18:33:34
    Pieter Joubert
    What a load of crap, there is no forced abortions in China. Your information sucks.

    There are financial benefits offered for not having more than one kid. There are many disabled kids born in China, they are a burden on the system, if abortion was forced on people, why are those children allowed to be born??? You are such an ass for believing all the crap you read
  • Tea in ... Pieter ... 2011/11/21 19:48:26
    Tea in the Harbor
    +2
    No forced abortions in China?

    It has been the official policy of the Chinese government for over thirty years!!


    New Brutal Cases of Forced Abortions Documented in China

    by Steven Ertelt | Beijing, China | LifeNews.com | 9/26/11 5:44 PM

    Women’s Rights Without Frontiers has released a groundbreaking new report setting forth more than a dozen new cases of forced abortions and other human rights abuses associated with the one-child policy in China.

    The report includes thirteen new, documented cases of coercion: forced abortion (including one woman at eight months and another carrying twins at 8 ½ months), forced sterilization, forced contraception, the use of quotas, Family Planning Police, Family Planning jail cells, the demolition of homes, and the use of “implication” (detention, torture and fining of relatives of “violators”). Several of these cases are documented with extensive photographs as well.

    Women’s Rights Without Frontiers released this report at the Congressional Hearing on the One Child Policy, held September 22, 2011, before the House Committee on Foreign Affairs, Subcommittee on Africa, Global Health and Human Rights.

    Commenting on the report, Littlejohn stated, “We have chosen to release the names of the perpetrators of these crimes against humanity, so that they c...

















    No forced abortions in China?

    It has been the official policy of the Chinese government for over thirty years!!


    New Brutal Cases of Forced Abortions Documented in China

    by Steven Ertelt | Beijing, China | LifeNews.com | 9/26/11 5:44 PM

    Women’s Rights Without Frontiers has released a groundbreaking new report setting forth more than a dozen new cases of forced abortions and other human rights abuses associated with the one-child policy in China.

    The report includes thirteen new, documented cases of coercion: forced abortion (including one woman at eight months and another carrying twins at 8 ½ months), forced sterilization, forced contraception, the use of quotas, Family Planning Police, Family Planning jail cells, the demolition of homes, and the use of “implication” (detention, torture and fining of relatives of “violators”). Several of these cases are documented with extensive photographs as well.

    Women’s Rights Without Frontiers released this report at the Congressional Hearing on the One Child Policy, held September 22, 2011, before the House Committee on Foreign Affairs, Subcommittee on Africa, Global Health and Human Rights.

    Commenting on the report, Littlejohn stated, “We have chosen to release the names of the perpetrators of these crimes against humanity, so that they can be held accountable before the world.”

    In addition to violence against women, the report and testimony also document violence against men.

    Case Six of the report describes the practice of “Implication,” which means that if anyone breaks the family planning policy, their entire extended family is held responsible. Both men and women can be detained, fined and tortured.

    Case Seven gives the account of a couple with a second child in Henan Province. Family planning police smashed the father in the head with a bottle. He is now permanently disabled.

    In Case Twelve, in Jiangsu Province, Family Planning Officials beat a farmer to death because his son was suspected of having an extra child.

    In her testimony, Littlejohn also raised the case of blind activist, Chen Guangcheng, who was arrested in 2006 for helping to expose the Chinese government’s use of forced sterilization and abortions to enforce its “One Child Policy.” He has since been jailed, tortured and denied medical treatment. He is now languishing under house arrest, in poor health and cut off from the world.

    Littlejohn concluded, “In China, a woman’s body is not her own. It belongs to the state. For the Chinese Communist Party to act as ‘womb police’ and crush the life inside her is a heinous crime against humanity.”

    The report can be read at http://www.womensrightswithou...

    Forced abortion has been the official policy of China since 1979, a woman is allowed to have one child after having it approved by the government, all other pregnancies are terminated whenever they are discovered. This article, http://www.lifesitenews.com/n... says there are 35,000 government forced abortions per day.

    I'm sorry to see that anyone is unaware of this policy, it is only one of the human rights abuses China commits against it's people on a continuous basis.
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  • Pieter ... Tea in ... 2011/11/21 21:19:46
  • Tea in ... Pieter ... 2011/11/21 23:05:00
    Tea in the Harbor
    They do have forced abortions, it's been their stated national policy for over thirty years and you will find the laws requiring it on their books under the heading of the "One Child Policy."

    They have a massive government agency with no other purpose than to approve or deny children. The dozen cases documented are for purposes of evidence, so that chronic liars such as you appear to be can't deny that it is happening.
  • Pieter ... Tea in ... 2011/11/22 09:23:18
    Pieter Joubert
    +1
    I visited many families in the rural areas who had 3-4 chidren so they maybe can read the law. You are so influenced by FOX that you will believe the sky is black if they say so.
  • Tea in ... Pieter ... 2011/11/22 15:33:12
    Tea in the Harbor
    I don't watch Fox, at least not for anything other than humor. If you had bothered to read the the links you'd know that the policy is enforced in urban areas, but not in rural areas.

    I wrote this article focusing on abortion policy because I wanted to reach conservatives, many of whom think China is an acceptable business partner because they have become an economic powerhouse and they seem to think that's all that matters. They overlook the fact that China does so well in commerce because they maintain near slavery labor laws and the fact that they have combined capitalism and communism in a way that weakens countries who respect human rights in world markets. We are, with our buying patterns, empowering the most repressive major nation on earth. Abortion is a hot button issue with them, so I thought it might wake a few of them up.
  • Singerar Tea in ... 2011/11/21 22:13:32
    Singerar
    There are NO forced abortions in China. They will tax the crap out of you for extra children but NO forced abortions. Since their health care is in a better position now, policies are changing as well. The "One Child" proposal is now becoming weak. They will tax you more though.
  • Tea in ... Singerar 2011/11/21 23:05:30
    Tea in the Harbor
    They do have forced abortions, it's been their stated national policy for over thirty years and you will find the laws requiring it on their books under the heading of the "One Child Policy."

    They have a massive government agency with no other purpose than to approve or deny children. The dozen cases documented are for purposes of evidence, so that chronic liars such as you appear to be can't deny that it is happening.
  • Singerar Tea in ... 2011/11/22 00:30:01
  • Tea in ... Singerar 2011/11/22 01:40:26 (edited)
    Tea in the Harbor
    You just researched it? You didn't happen to bring a link to any evidence did you? Like the link I supplied above detailing congressional testimony on the subject or like the other link I supplied making the claim that 35,000 government forced abortions happen per day in China?

    Of course you didn't, because they do not exist. China freely admits to both the policy and the actions and has for thirty three years. Here's another article reviewing the policy, http://factsanddetails.com/ch... and here's another, http://geography.about.com/od... and another, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... and here's one about Fox News attacking VP Biden for not objecting loudly enough to the policy last year. http://www.foxnews.com/politi...

    That's six separate confirmations that what I say is true, do you have any at all saying that China doesn't engage in these practices? Of course you don't, it's an irrefutable fact and has been for decades.

    When you buy anything that is made in China, you are paying for forced abortions, forced abortions that the Chinese government says have prevented 300,000,000 births.
    You just researched it? You didn't happen to bring a link to any evidence did you? Like the link I supplied above detailing congressional testimony on the subject or like the other link I supplied making the claim that 35,000 government forced abortions happen per day in China?

    Of course you didn't, because they do not exist. China freely admits to both the policy and the actions and has for thirty three years. Here's another article reviewing the policy, http://factsanddetails.com/ch... and here's another, http://geography.about.com/od... and another, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... and here's one about Fox News attacking VP Biden for not objecting loudly enough to the policy last year. http://www.foxnews.com/politi...

    That's six separate confirmations that what I say is true, do you have any at all saying that China doesn't engage in these practices? Of course you don't, it's an irrefutable fact and has been for decades.

    When you buy anything that is made in China, you are paying for forced abortions, forced abortions that the Chinese government says have prevented 300,000,000 births.
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  • cant be... Singerar 2011/11/22 03:12:05
    cant beleive walkers gov
    +1
    seems you need to do a little reading and research before you spout off at the mouth.
  • John "B... Singerar 2011/11/22 14:06:49
    John "By God" American
    What do you do for living. Just curious...

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