How is abortion NOT murder?
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Why can I murder my own child, for no other reason but that I want to, but if you accidentally hit me with your car while I am pregnant and both me and the child die, you are charged with two counts of murder? \
If I can murder my own child and no one cares, why can't I murder you?
If I can murder my own child and no one cares, why can't I murder you?
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Gracie - Proud Conservative 2009/05/16 23:04:30
The only reason religions call abortion a sin is so they can win the population wars. They are about pushing their agenda through the strength of their numbers.
It's also interesting to me that the same people who cry out for freedom want to take away the freedom of choice. I guess their motto should be "freedom is only freedom if you agree with me"?
but never in a million years does that choice give any woman the right to change her mind and terminate a growing human being
this is not a sweater she knitted and wants to pull apart
this is not an out-house she built and wants to pull down
this is a human being starting out on life
you actually think women should have the freedom of choice to start AND terminate humans?
pathetic
My personal answers to the trolling questions are about like this:
* Road _accidents_ should not result in any murder charges, and actually I don't think unborn babies should be considered murderable in any case.
* I think society gets to choose what the laws are. One way of treating the above situation is to define a point at which a new person is considered a person rather than an incomplete bunch of cells. Birth seems the very earliest point that makes sense to my personal cosmology, spirituality, and morality, and you're wasting your breath trying to convince me otherwise. I might actually even set it at the point the ranking medical authority in charge of the child declares it a person (could be a doctor, midwife, or even the mother).
* I think there are many problems in terms of human suffering and ambiguity in defining life as beginning and having legal personhood before birth. Moreover, human suffering tends to be about disappointed expectations and sys...'
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My personal answers to the trolling questions are about like this:
* Road _accidents_ should not result in any murder charges, and actually I don't think unborn babies should be considered murderable in any case.
* I think society gets to choose what the laws are. One way of treating the above situation is to define a point at which a new person is considered a person rather than an incomplete bunch of cells. Birth seems the very earliest point that makes sense to my personal cosmology, spirituality, and morality, and you're wasting your breath trying to convince me otherwise. I might actually even set it at the point the ranking medical authority in charge of the child declares it a person (could be a doctor, midwife, or even the mother).
* I think there are many problems in terms of human suffering and ambiguity in defining life as beginning and having legal personhood before birth. Moreover, human suffering tends to be about disappointed expectations and systems of ideas, and people who haven't left the womb have essentially no knowledge or expectations - the mother will experience far more pain and anguish than a child being killed even in the most awful and slow abortion procedure, and the mother is the one to trust with the decision.
* People who disagree and insist life begins at some early foetal stage, or that there's some Biblical argument or whatever, have a major cultural disagreement with me, and I'd like them to live in their own anti-abortion jurisdiction, while I will choose to live in a pro-choice jurisdiction.
* There's land enough on this continent for plenty of different jurisdictions to support different opinions and lifestyles without us trying to force others to conform to one morality.
But on the other hand it's not, in that the life it's taking away isn't born, yet. Which is admittedly, confusing.
the act of birth is not the start of life but the necessity for that human being to continue growing as it has been doing since the first 2 cells
just because it does not look like a natural baby until around 15 weeks does not discount it as being a HUMAN !
an oak tree doesn't look anything like an oak tree to start with - just a small green shoot from a seed, but no-one would argue it wasn't an oak tree at any stage of development !
the deception in mankind today is astonishing
The right-to-life people are so consumed with trying to 'control' personal decisions of an individual they miss out on actually helping people - - their time would be better spent volunteering (soup kitchens; churches; senior centers; hospital; children centers, etc) and using their passion that way. You do not have the right to interfere in another's decision to make 'choices'. Simple as that - whether it's legal or not abortion will not stop, so that is why it needs to remain legal to keep women safe! It is NEVER an easy decision to make for the mother. No law in the land will make it easier.....
so call that new human being whatever pathetic name you like but you can never excuse away the termination of human being (otherwise known as murder)
I'm not talking about abstinence education - leave that for the parents and the religious institutions. But it's a well-documented fact that the rates of age at which teens have sexual intercourse, the number of partners, STDs and pregnancies are much lower where there is comprehensive sex education in the schools. That doesn't mean that a parent or religious institution can't emphasize the value of abstinence but to do so with an informed teen is far better than without (as shown by the abstinence plus program stats).
Reducing the number of unwanted pregnancies is certainly a worthy goal and has the added benefit of reducing the number of abortions.
My concern is for the unborn child once it is already here.
I heard my first child's heartbeat when he was only 8 weeks gestation old.
It is worth reading or watching if you haven't already.
The Newsmax link:
http://www.newsmax.com/inside...
The youtube video:
Take care.
The heart is beating at the earliest detection of pregnancy. Abortion is murder.
This country has it's values twisted around..
So sad...
God Bless all of you who fight to preserve the life of those who have no voice