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How has it become that America has deteriorated into a no question allowed society?

Shark May 09, 2009 07:34:46

I was at a Starbucks today getting a coffee with a contractor friend. We started to talk about the US and fiscal dismay and we looked at each other, looked around the room, looked back at each other and busted out laughing.
'We realized at the same time we were thinking; The Walls have ears and THEY are listening.

In reality were had pretty serious looks on our faces and there was one guy typing away on his laptop and he kept looking over at us.

Amazing the America is now entering a communist styled zone where average people are becoming afraid to speak for fear of retaliation.

All my life I have voted and I have been in discussions about my votes and the votes of others. During the last 80 or so years I have had many a political debate and been on both sides of it. No matter the stance of the debaters or their political views which were quite often polar, we still had our discussions and always tried to learn more.
After all, we were Americans. Just because we wanted some different things, we at the same time wanted America itself. We did not ever take offense at another persons vote, choice or desire.

For the first time in the American History that I have personally been part of I have seen politics become hateful and verbally abusive. The supporters of the Democratic party are so damn sure of themselves that they want to destroy those that question. Destroy???? I have been a registered Democrat for most of my life. I just have, but I always voted for the candidate that I thought was best for the country.
Did I vote correctly? Did I vote wrong? Did I vote the way I was told to?
Why does it matter how I voted or you or anybody else. What matters is we voted. We made our personal choices. We did not sign up for a beating.

No debate allowed. Agree or get a beating. I remember being in Europe in the war and in Russia in the 50's and later. That was what is was like. No questioning allowed. Fear monitored the streets.
How has it become that America has deteriorated into a no questions allowed society for fear or reprisal? All of us know the turmoil the world is in. We all know the major players and conglomerates that dealt the dirty cards. We all do. For the most part, we all want a better America, a better world. So why have so much disdain for someone that may not have cast the same vote you did?
Shut up and sit in the corner while I change your mind.
American has changed because....
What's wrong, I don't see any problems.
Sshhh, the wall have ears, but ............
I think the political tenor in America is....
None of the above
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  • +3 Nairb May 10, 2009 14:35:19
    Nairb

    American has changed because....

    Because the schools were taken by the left without a fight. The radicals focused on the schools depending on the good nature and sense of fair play of the people with historical, American ideals.
    Free speech, debate, the market place of ideas.
    Once in they set about taking over. Limiting opposite views whenever possible. They create the high school and grade school teachers. They promote their own views not reason or thought.
    Howard Zinn is proclaimed a great historian by the left. If American history were a human body, and history professors were doctors. Then Howard Zinn is a proctologist and not a very good one.
    I heard him interviewed and debated by Dennis Prager, where Zinn admitted, he thought the world would have been better off if the U.S. of A. "had never come into being.".
    His history books are the most popular in every history course in the university system. Not by students but by teachers.
    Until these no accounts are removed there is no hope. END TENURE for any subjective discipline. And if it is granted the person must demonstrate that they are good at it by making a living in the free market for 5 to 10 years. If he or she can earn a living at it then they must be good. But in reality it is the rule, those that can't do, teach. Collages are used to funnel in...'
    Because the schools were taken by the left without a fight. The radicals focused on the schools depending on the good nature and sense of fair play of the people with historical, American ideals.
    Free speech, debate, the market place of ideas.
    Once in they set about taking over. Limiting opposite views whenever possible. They create the high school and grade school teachers. They promote their own views not reason or thought.
    Howard Zinn is proclaimed a great historian by the left. If American history were a human body, and history professors were doctors. Then Howard Zinn is a proctologist and not a very good one.
    I heard him interviewed and debated by Dennis Prager, where Zinn admitted, he thought the world would have been better off if the U.S. of A. "had never come into being.".
    His history books are the most popular in every history course in the university system. Not by students but by teachers.
    Until these no accounts are removed there is no hope. END TENURE for any subjective discipline. And if it is granted the person must demonstrate that they are good at it by making a living in the free market for 5 to 10 years. If he or she can earn a living at it then they must be good. But in reality it is the rule, those that can't do, teach. Collages are used to funnel income to ne'r do wells. that need money while they promote the destruction of good things and people. Look at all the paid lecturers that speak without any thing remotely in their history that qualifies them. Other than being big on the left.
    Tenure is so often granted to unqualified people just because the hate the U.S. of A. in the appropriate manner. Look to Ward Churchill.
    Take back the schools, from the tolitarian left. Restore Freedom of thought.
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  • +2
    Bear July 29, 2009 05:40:43 (edited)
    Bear

    American has changed because....

    The Frankfurt School, Gramscian Communism, the sec/hum athie agenda, and GREED, for both Money and POWER.
    F'get th' WHYLES.... Sayve th' SHAIRKS!
    sechum athie agenda greed money power fget whyles sayve shairks
  • +2
    History Teacher June 16, 2009 21:46:19
    History Teacher

    I think the political tenor in America is....

    is becoming less open-minded...which in essence is less American.

    Good observation Shark!
  • +2
    Shell May 28, 2009 03:42:55
    Shell

    American has changed because....

    We're losing our freedom of speech! It's a good thing to be able to vent on SodaHead though.


    american changed losing freedom speech vent sodahead
  • +1
    David P May 11, 2009 14:08:49
    David P

    Sshhh, the wall have ears, but ............

    IGNORANCE
  • +2
    Tawana- May 11, 2009 04:37:23
    Tawana-

    Shut up and sit in the corner while I change your mind.

    Because the leftists have taken over every aspect of our country, from schools and universities, to churches, to government offices, to labor unions, to media, etc. It starts with our so called President, his socialist wife, and the anti American, socialist, Marxist, globalist, CFR, and communist people he has put into various offices, as well as those holding offices in our States legislatures, and the turncoats in office who lie to their voters and sell out to the opposition.

    They have started to whittle away at our Constitution, and our rights in all areas. They will not stop until they have changed our Republic into a Marxist Social Democracy, and have destroyed Christianity.

    It filters into every aspect of our lives, and always into our pocketbooks. If your opinion differs, or you dare to stand up for what you believe, you are called out and railed at as being divisive, an instigator, a terrorist, etc., when nothing could be further from the truth.

    My mate and I have both been verbally attacked, just because we said we are republicans. Now we are always careful what we say at restaurants, movies, etc. so as not to be attacked. While we continue to remain hopeful, we don't rely on the good will of our government, or anyone else.

    Consequently, we have changed ...'''""
    Because the leftists have taken over every aspect of our country, from schools and universities, to churches, to government offices, to labor unions, to media, etc. It starts with our so called President, his socialist wife, and the anti American, socialist, Marxist, globalist, CFR, and communist people he has put into various offices, as well as those holding offices in our States legislatures, and the turncoats in office who lie to their voters and sell out to the opposition.

    They have started to whittle away at our Constitution, and our rights in all areas. They will not stop until they have changed our Republic into a Marxist Social Democracy, and have destroyed Christianity.

    It filters into every aspect of our lives, and always into our pocketbooks. If your opinion differs, or you dare to stand up for what you believe, you are called out and railed at as being divisive, an instigator, a terrorist, etc., when nothing could be further from the truth.

    My mate and I have both been verbally attacked, just because we said we are republicans. Now we are always careful what we say at restaurants, movies, etc. so as not to be attacked. While we continue to remain hopeful, we don't rely on the good will of our government, or anyone else.

    Consequently, we have changed our behaviors.
    We have changed vacation plans because we no longer want to go to certain places, or give our hard earned dollars to places who support the demise of our country's sovereignty. We are taking self defense classes and gun safety classes. We have stopped listening to the TV news media propaganda. We don't go to places that we would have previously gone to. We are careful what we purchase, so as not to support those in opposition to America's sovereignty. Our purchases are geared for emergencies and possible government law restrictions. We are purchasing bulk items, a generator, emergency supplies, etc. We support the people who stand up in the courts, and support our Constitution and American sovereignty, wherever we find them. We support true history, instead of revisionist history and leftist propaganda, wherever we find it.

    We leave our real conversations for home behind closed doors
    and in groups where we know we are safe. We make sure that our bumper stickers are affixed on the inside our vehicles, and are removable. We remove them when we go into known "leftist" areas, to keep our vehicles from being vandalized and ourselves from being attacked. We always remain aware of our surroundings and the type of people who are in our vicinity, and we take precautions. Paranoid - No. Very careful, and always at the ready - Yes.

    We hate what has happened to our precious Country, under Clinton, Bush and Obama. We no longer trust our government. We only barely trust a few local legislature. We will fight the leftist, pro illegal alien, progressive, Social Democracy/Socialist, Marxist, North American Union, New World Order, and Globalist agendas to our deaths.
    In order to do that, we need to remain safe and alive.

    We are currently helping people to escape from North Korea, to some semblance of safety, but certainly not to the USSA.
    safe alive helping people escape north korea semblance safety ussa safe alive helping people escape north korea semblance safety ussa
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  • +3
    Nairb May 10, 2009 14:35:19
    Nairb

    American has changed because....

    Because the schools were taken by the left without a fight. The radicals focused on the schools depending on the good nature and sense of fair play of the people with historical, American ideals.
    Free speech, debate, the market place of ideas.
    Once in they set about taking over. Limiting opposite views whenever possible. They create the high school and grade school teachers. They promote their own views not reason or thought.
    Howard Zinn is proclaimed a great historian by the left. If American history were a human body, and history professors were doctors. Then Howard Zinn is a proctologist and not a very good one.
    I heard him interviewed and debated by Dennis Prager, where Zinn admitted, he thought the world would have been better off if the U.S. of A. "had never come into being.".
    His history books are the most popular in every history course in the university system. Not by students but by teachers.
    Until these no accounts are removed there is no hope. END TENURE for any subjective discipline. And if it is granted the person must demonstrate that they are good at it by making a living in the free market for 5 to 10 years. If he or she can earn a living at it then they must be good. But in reality it is the rule, those that can't do, teach. Collages are used to funnel in...'
    Because the schools were taken by the left without a fight. The radicals focused on the schools depending on the good nature and sense of fair play of the people with historical, American ideals.
    Free speech, debate, the market place of ideas.
    Once in they set about taking over. Limiting opposite views whenever possible. They create the high school and grade school teachers. They promote their own views not reason or thought.
    Howard Zinn is proclaimed a great historian by the left. If American history were a human body, and history professors were doctors. Then Howard Zinn is a proctologist and not a very good one.
    I heard him interviewed and debated by Dennis Prager, where Zinn admitted, he thought the world would have been better off if the U.S. of A. "had never come into being.".
    His history books are the most popular in every history course in the university system. Not by students but by teachers.
    Until these no accounts are removed there is no hope. END TENURE for any subjective discipline. And if it is granted the person must demonstrate that they are good at it by making a living in the free market for 5 to 10 years. If he or she can earn a living at it then they must be good. But in reality it is the rule, those that can't do, teach. Collages are used to funnel income to ne'r do wells. that need money while they promote the destruction of good things and people. Look at all the paid lecturers that speak without any thing remotely in their history that qualifies them. Other than being big on the left.
    Tenure is so often granted to unqualified people just because the hate the U.S. of A. in the appropriate manner. Look to Ward Churchill.
    Take back the schools, from the tolitarian left. Restore Freedom of thought.
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  • +1
    Shark Nairb May 10, 2009 18:56:46
    Shark
    It's nice to hear from real thinkers.
    Thank you

    Would be interesting to hear from some of these weak minded teachers that spew failure to our children. How does one defend ignorance, except for their own fear of loosing their jobs for telling the truth. I have talked with many teachers that say straight out that is the reason.
    They systematically destroy the minds and the future of the country that brought their own families to this point where they feel somehow obligated to destroy it and defend the destructors to their core.
  • +2
    Bourne May 10, 2009 01:56:19
    Bourne

    None of the above

    I am a potential Domestic Terrorist for multiple reasons
  • Shark Bourne May 10, 2009 04:24:58
    Shark
  • +2
    kormster May 09, 2009 14:13:01
    kormster

    Sshhh, the wall have ears, but ............

    The most honest and open president the US ever had. BULL SHITE. But Bush was plotting against the enemies of the US. BO is plotting against his enemies in the US.
  • +2
    Mike May 09, 2009 08:52:47
    Mike

    Shut up and sit in the corner while I change your mind.

    moderated...
  • ubiquitous_tergiversation May 09, 2009 08:19:02 (edited)
    ubiquitous_tergiversation

    Shut up and sit in the corner while I change your mind.

    You sound paranoid. Some guy was typing on a laptop at a cafe, therefore the government is listening and will crush you if they don't like what you say? I don't follow. Yes the government has all kinds of fucked up surveillance set up, much of which was instituted under the Bush administration... but you are being paranoid. Say whatever you want at the coffee shop, nobody cares as long as you aren't in a position of political power.
  • +2
    Shark ubiquit... May 09, 2009 19:02:11
    Shark
    You missed that part where I said we were laughing.
    That said, I am not alone by a long shot in the number of people that feel they can not speak up without reprisal and not the friendly kind.

    Every President used listening devices from George Washington's horse back letter carries to our Current President. That is nothing new and not a complaint or a paranoid rant.
    What is new is the verbal abuse rendered to those that question the government.
    I mean what so wrong with questioning the government.
    They are not God's. They are people and people make mistakes, often.
    But question our government now and it ass kicking time.
    That's Paranoid and Delusional.
    It's ok to be a zealot for your president or Governmental Principals but it's not OK to coherence other into believing yours is the only choice and to attack or disparage their beliefs as if it was a personal attack.

    So, paranoid? NO.
    Seeing People act poorly: Yes.
    Talking about in Public: Yes
    Problem with that: None.
    Problem instilled into by others: Lets see.
  • +2
    Voyager May 09, 2009 07:51:24
    Voyager

    American has changed because....

    Apathy has replaced ambition, let the other folks take care of the problem syndrome. Drugs may well have alot to do with it, money is better than comfort and freedom? Don't earn it, steal it? Gather up the bedsheets folks, soon we won't need fashionable clothing!
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