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Jersey Roze ♥Jwon's Cyar'ika ♥ 2012/06/11 11:11:03
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  • Bingo's Faddah 2012/06/11 12:42:15
    It doesn't hurt me...
    Bingo's Faddah
    +8
    I see you've come to understand the issue. Here's your cookie!

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    I'll never understand how some folks can insist on denying equal rights and benefits to those that do different things with their adult parts than they do. Senseless arrogance.

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  • rocat Barefoo... 2012/07/02 07:02:31
    rocat
    +2
    you gotta be kidding me???

    who taught you that crap???
  • Barefoo... rocat 2012/07/02 07:21:59
    Barefooted Nana ∞ijm♥∞AFCL
    +2
    History books.
  • beach bum 2012/06/12 03:19:41
    It doesn't hurt me...
    beach bum
    +2
    love is love
  • Odinsown 2012/06/12 02:16:20
    It hurts me because...
    Odinsown
    +2
    I am miserable and alone and gay marriage just reminds me, in fact all marriage does, make it all illegal please.
  • Jersey ... Odinsown 2012/06/12 11:14:06
    Jersey Roze ♥Jwon's Cyar'ika ♥
    That's selfish. You do know that, right?...
  • Odinsown Jersey ... 2012/06/12 12:47:12
    Odinsown
    +4
    It is also sarcastic
  • Jersey ... Odinsown 2012/06/12 13:53:43
    Jersey Roze ♥Jwon's Cyar'ika ♥
    Ah, okay...
  • Odinsown Jersey ... 2012/06/12 13:58:25
    Odinsown
    +3
    :) I am actually a vocal supporter, I don't think government should tell you who you can or can't marry.
  • JaknHarely 2012/06/12 01:52:28
    Other...
    JaknHarely
    +1
    I want to be clear that I support gay marraige. That being said, I understand the fears some might have. Some in congress are already talking about making marraige a contract you would have to renew and it seems like with the hate speech laws out there, should a priest refuse to "marry" a gay couple some one might eventually try to sue.
  • Rogue_Loner 2012/06/12 00:48:00
  • Ray the... Rogue_L... 2012/06/16 10:47:12
    Ray the Dog!
    +1
    Nice 'irony',, my friend!!
  • Red_Horse 2012/06/11 23:59:43
  • Dickens 2012/06/11 23:24:43
    It doesn't hurt me...
    Dickens
    +3
    ..gay marriage doesn't hurt me or anyone else...
  • Psyblade 2012/06/11 23:11:34
    It doesn't hurt me...
    Psyblade
    +3
    It doesn't hurt anyone.
  • Chase Martin 2012/06/11 22:19:39
    It doesn't hurt me...
    Chase Martin
    +1
    ...CAUSE NOTHING CAN HURT ME!!! ;)
  • the judgebigdogeagle 2012/06/11 21:04:21 (edited)
    It doesn't hurt me...
    the judgebigdogeagle
    +1
    Why does it hurt me. It can't Go do what you want to do. & I'll do the same.Looking at Bikini's in Padre'
  • Jack 2012/06/11 20:39:25
    It hurts me because...
    Jack
    +7
    It hurts us all indirectly, though, because it's another lowering of the moral standards of a nation. It also gives homosexual behaviour a respectability that it doesn't deserve, thereby encouraging people who might have been disgusted by the idea in the past to try it.
  • TheHush... Jack 2012/06/11 23:47:41
    TheHushedScreamer
    +4
    Technically, by default, the moral code of a nation and the world is to do good. Unless they're doing illegal things I don't see how this affects a nation's moral code.
    Why shouldn't homosexual behavior receive respectability? Every human being should be respected for who they are, because we all are equal. We all deserve the same respect.
    One cannot "try" to be homosexual. One just is. It isn't a decision.
  • Jack TheHush... 2012/06/12 00:07:08
    Jack
    +4
    A willingness to engage in that kind of behaviour is indicative of a total lack of moral fibre. You might as well legalise incest, and bestiality, if you're going to let people carry on like that. I don't see any one of those three being better than the other two.
    As far as 'trying' is concerned, I meant experimenting. In more decent times, when homosexuals were either ostracised or actually arrested, no decent human being would have considered it. But nowadays, it's portrayed as being no more harmful as smoking a cigarette or drinking a beer, which does encourage otherwise decent people to take part in obscene acts.
  • TheHush... Jack 2012/06/12 01:07:46
    TheHushedScreamer
    +4
    You say it's a lack of moral fiber engaging on a behavior which consists of loving someone?
    You cannot compare homosexuality with incest or bestiality because it isn't the same. In the only thing that they are similar is that they're all "types" of love.
    I really can't believe you said that a time in where humans were arrested or forced to leave their land (which meant a lot in those times) for loving who they love is considered by you decent. It's just absurd, and it really shows your true colors.
    It is portayed as being "no more harmful as smoking a cigarette or drinking a beer" because it IS NOT harmful. It never was, and it never will be.
    Are you saying that homosexuals are not decent because they love their same sex? That's just really low, offensive and ignorant of you to say so.
    Loving someone is an obscene act? Really? How do you explain this?
  • Jack TheHush... 2012/06/12 01:18:18
    Jack
    +3
    How is homosexual behaviour any better than incest or bestiality? I have never heard a lucid argument against that question!
    I'm glad my statement showed my true colours, by the way. If I wasn't proud of the values I have, I wouldn't have expressed them publicly.
    And as for the term 'love', which you keep using, the disgusting acts committed by those people have nothing to do with love, and everything to do with gratifying a sick perverted urge!
  • TheHush... Jack 2012/06/12 04:20:52 (edited)
    TheHushedScreamer
    +4
    There hasn't been "a lucid argument about the question" because no love is better than the other! Love is love; there is no better or worse. But since you ask for it, I think I'll give it to you: homosexuality could be considered better than incest or bestiality. Why? Well, first of all it could be considered better than bestiality because it's between two humans. It's completely consensual. Second, it could be considered better than incest because homosexuls can't procreate, while incest couples can and if they do the babies will be born with many complications and defects.
    There's nothing to be proud of. If anything, you should feel ashamed of the "values" you have, if you could even call them values. I feel sorry for you.

    ...Okay. Now you just crossed the line.
    What's so disgusting baout two people kissing and LOVING Each other?! Huh?! It's no different than heterosexual love! Love is love! The "acts" the commit are not disgusting! They're not what's disgusting in the world, it's people like you! You're disgusting, and you're a disgrace to humanity. I don't know how you could live with such ignorance and stupidity.
    Tell me in what ways are they "gratifying a sick perverted urge"?! It's not unacceptable, and it's not wrong. Everything they do has to do with love! That's why...


    There hasn't been "a lucid argument about the question" because no love is better than the other! Love is love; there is no better or worse. But since you ask for it, I think I'll give it to you: homosexuality could be considered better than incest or bestiality. Why? Well, first of all it could be considered better than bestiality because it's between two humans. It's completely consensual. Second, it could be considered better than incest because homosexuls can't procreate, while incest couples can and if they do the babies will be born with many complications and defects.
    There's nothing to be proud of. If anything, you should feel ashamed of the "values" you have, if you could even call them values. I feel sorry for you.

    ...Okay. Now you just crossed the line.
    What's so disgusting baout two people kissing and LOVING Each other?! Huh?! It's no different than heterosexual love! Love is love! The "acts" the commit are not disgusting! They're not what's disgusting in the world, it's people like you! You're disgusting, and you're a disgrace to humanity. I don't know how you could live with such ignorance and stupidity.
    Tell me in what ways are they "gratifying a sick perverted urge"?! It's not unacceptable, and it's not wrong. Everything they do has to do with love! That's why everyone judges them! Because they love a different gender than others!
    You, sir, disgust me. You've almost made me believe that there is no hope for humanity. And, also, you've just proven Albert Einstein's quote to be true:
    "Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."
    You are existent proof of that being true; I guess human stupidity IS infinite.
    (more)
  • Jersey ... TheHush... 2012/06/12 19:55:13
    Jersey Roze ♥Jwon's Cyar'ika ♥
    +3
    *applause*...
  • Jack TheHush... 2012/06/12 19:56:32
    Jack
    +3
    So I'm stupid? That's funny. They must be letting stupid people into Mensa these days then.
    I didn't say 'lucid argument about', by the way, I said 'lucid argument against', because I was pointing out that no one could counter my question. And, looking at what you've written, still no one has. From what you're saying, then, incest is fine as long as contraception is used? And bestiality is fine, as long as the animal doesn't try to resist?
    Exactly. They're disgusting acts that have no basis in love - just like homosexual behaviour!
    Ironically, the views that you and others express give me just as little hope for humanity as mine give you. I may well not spend a great deal more time on here, to be honest, as it saddens and angers me that there are so many people around who share your twisted, brain-washed views on life.
  • TheHush... Jack 2012/06/12 20:10:01
    TheHushedScreamer
    +1
    Just because you have a high IQ doesn't mean you know about life, love, relationships, marriage and other things. Having a high IQ makes you "book smart" not "street smart". And, by the way, I also have an incredibly high IQ for my age and level of maturity, so don't feel so special.
    Fine. I made a mistake. Still, the argument I gave is acceptable.
    Yes, I believe incest is acceptable as long as they don't try to procreate. And yes, I believe beastiality is acceptable but I can honestly say that it's not for that reason.
    They're not disgusting acts.
    Why- because accepting others's differences and try to live with them and treating others as equal gives you little hope for humanity?
    Again, I say, it saddens and angers you that people here accept others's differences and try to live with them and treating others as equal?
    Twisted? Brain-washed? How so? Explain yourself.
  • Jack TheHush... 2012/06/12 23:57:02
    Jack
    +3
    I think that when someone believes that incest and bestiality can be totally acceptable, twisted is the kindest word I could use! I'm not saying it to wind you up; just ask others how they feel about that.
    As for the 'brain-washed' part, well don't forget that, highly intelligent though you may be, you're still very young, and haven't had time to garner a lot of life experience. I don't say that to be patronising; it's just a valid point. Twenty years ago, the majority of people found homosexual behaviour revolting, but nowadays homosexuals have such a disproportionately large representation in film and TV that they're able to force their opinions on the general population on a daily basis. Hitler (who I'm not a fan of, by the way!!) once said that if you tell the public something enough times, eventually, they'll believe it. Evil though he was, he knew all about controlling public opinion.
  • TheHush... Jack 2012/06/13 00:18:51
    TheHushedScreamer
    +1
    A person who believes that incest and beastiality can be accepted is not twisted, but just plain accepting. I know we're all different, and that none of us is betterthan the other. I know I am in no position to judge others, unless they judge me unrighteously -which is still wrong but I have to defend myself and my views-. What makes you so sure YOU can judge others?
    Life experience does not only come with age. Believe me, I could easily and certainly say I've been through stuff most adults go through later on. So don't get fooled by age. Even though I'm young I'm still capable of forming an opinion with sustainable and valuable reasons, and it still counts as much as an adult's.
    Yeah. And up until the late 1800s slavery was considered a good thing. Just because years ago something was viewed as bad doesn't mean is actually was bad. As well as things viewed as good back then aren't necessarily good.
    Yes. Hitler, along with Osama, was an intelligent man. Evil, but inteligent. But only narrow and naive people can get swayed by nowadays. Besides, if that were the case then I would be totally against homosexuality, considering the country I live in is completely anti-LGBT.
  • mary E TheHush... 2012/06/14 11:42:58
    mary E
    +1
    Wow! You really do have a problem with another person disagreeing with you! Where is YOUR "love?"
  • TheHush... mary E 2012/06/14 12:44:58
    TheHushedScreamer
    +2
    Nope, I don't- as long as they have a reasonable explanation as to why they disgree, as well as I do when I disgree with them. When one enters an argument, one should explain and expose their opinion with logical reasons. Jack's reasons were illogical and absurd- and his reasons were based on facts that could be explained, and by explaining those facts one could still not see why he believed such absurd things. I don't really know if I made myself clear to you, but I sure hope so.
    The love I talk about is much greater than this. Besides, I only love those who love me. Jack, clearly, believes that I'm an abomination, that I'm disgusting. Why should I hold back if he isn't going to?
  • Belle mary E 2012/07/02 05:20:57
  • Jersey ... Jack 2012/06/11 23:51:05
    Jersey Roze ♥Jwon's Cyar'ika ♥
    +3
    Accidental rave. I'm disgusted by that comment. Its a shame...
  • Jack Jersey ... 2012/06/12 00:21:45
    Jack
    +2
    It's a shame that you feel that way. But then I'd already guessed that you were asking a rhetorical question.
  • Jersey ... Jack 2012/06/12 00:29:38
    Jersey Roze ♥Jwon's Cyar'ika ♥
    +3
    Oh, no, it wasn't a rhetorical question. I was just expecting logical answers...
  • mary E Jack 2012/06/14 11:53:27
    mary E
    +1
    Yes, Jack. A rhetorical question to lure posters into giving their opinion so they can go on the attack! The "attack" is the real objective, for they are empty shells void of any values.
  • Jersey ... mary E 2012/06/14 12:53:00
    Jersey Roze ♥Jwon's Cyar'ika ♥
    +1
    Lol! I have no values? Did you read any of the crap he's spewing?...
  • Psyblade Jack 2012/06/12 00:08:57
    Psyblade
    +3
    "the moral standards of a nation"
    -Not everyone has a moral issue with homosexuality.

    "It also gives homosexual behavior a respectability that it doesn't deserve."
    -Homosexuals don't deserve respect JUST because they like the same gender? That's ridiculous.

    "encouraging people who might have been disgusted by the idea in the past to try it."
    -If they were REALLY disgusted by it then they wouldn't want to try it. Sounds like closet-cases.
  • Jack Psyblade 2012/06/12 00:19:46
    Jack
    +3
    I'm not surprised that so many people disagree with what I said. It's symptomatic of a once-great nation that got where it was through conservative, right-wing ideals - as every successful nation has - and is now slowly being dragged into the abyss as liberal values start to dominate. Ask this question in the up-and-coming nations, which will soon overtake the liberal west i.e. China, India, Japan, and you'll find most people agreeing with my point of view.
  • Psyblade Jack 2012/06/12 00:25:42
    Psyblade
    +2
    People actually disagree with what you said because it's illogical and ridiculous. I mean you seriously think that allowing gay couples to get legally married will encourage people to try to "become" homosexual? Wow.
  • Jack Psyblade 2012/06/12 00:41:47
    Jack
    +4
    If you don't realise that, then you haven't thought it through. Until recent decades, everyone knew homosexual behaviour was wrong, and most of those who might have been tempted to engage in it were put off the idea, because they knew that, whatever urges they might have, it was wrong, just as incest, or bestiality, were wrong.
    Nowadays, mainly due to the disproportionate number of homosexuals in film and TV, we're constantly fed propaganda about how great that kind of behaviour is, which removes the boundaries of decency which previously held in check those who might have been tempted.
    As I said in my previous post, liberal, permissive countries sink without trace, and unless something changes, that will happen to all the current western powers.
  • Psyblade Jack 2012/06/12 00:58:23
    Psyblade
    +2
    .......This is so off base that I can't even begin to describe the fail.....so I'll do this.

    facepalm

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