Homosexuals And Heterosexuals Have The Same Rights To Marriage?

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Homosexuals And Heterosexuals Have The Same Rights To Marriage?

Posted July 02, 2009 02:23:21
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I recently came across a truly brilliant person commenting on a news article concerning homosexuality. He claims that homosexuals have the same rights to marriage as heterosexuals do. He told me that homosexuals could marry a woman, just like a heterosexual man could. Heterosexuals could not marry someone of the same sex, just like any homosexual could not. And that was this person's justification for banning gay marriages: its still equal. Seriously?

It never ceases to amaze me how some people think. Sure, I see what he's saying, but its so wrong I just can't believe someone would actually think in this manner. Even in this sense homosexuals and heterosexuals do not have equality. For heterosexuals, this premise may be just fine. They are allowed to marry the person the love. The fact that they aren't allowed to marry someone of the same sex doesn't bother them at all because they have no sexual or romantic interest in the opposite sex anyway. For heterosexuals, the official recognition of love, and the legal rights that come with it, is all there for them to have with no problems.

The same cannot be said for homosexuals. For homosexuals, this premise is very invalid. Homosexuals are equal in that we can marry someone of the opposite sex just like a heterosexual man? Give me a break. Homosexuals have an attraction to the same sex. Whether you believe this comes about at birth, is a product of environmental conditions growing up, or are just plain in denial that it even exists, the fact still remains that homosexuals like the same sex. So why would we ever want marry someone of the same sex? There would not be the same type of love found in heterosexual marriages. Denying a group of people the official recognition of love and the rights that come with it is anything but equal. Its outright discrimination. Sure, homosexuals can love each other if they wanted to; no one can take the feeling of love from you. But denying a group of people the same rights another group has concerning the same matter is not something any of us should condone. We live in the land of equal opportunity, yet homosexuals clearly do not equal opportunities for marriage. Its a disgrace.

Conservatives don't want to redefine what marriage is, yet in essence are willing to say any man and woman can marry without love being a motivator? Sounds like you've already redefined marriage yourselves. What we need is not redefine what marriage is, but emphasize what a marriage is about: love.

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+17 raves lurx July 02, 2009 22:16:13

One question that is rarely asked is, why does the Christian religion have a monopoly on the institution of marriage? Doesn't the institution of marriage predate the Christian faith?
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Forum Cruiser July 13, 2009 01:24:21

Not looking for a fight and this is not an issue that I am all that passionate about but marriage is between a man and a woman and civil unions can be between anyone. I believe the big difference is in benefits. I

Should gays have the right to visit their significant others when they are in the hospital~~of course. Should businesses be forced to give gays health care benefits to their lovers~~no!
Aysohmay to Forum C... July 13, 2009 01:37:07

Why should gay couples be allowed to be on the same health care plan like a heterosexual couple? That screams of inequality
Forum C... to Aysohmay July 13, 2009 01:48:41 (edited)

It is inequality but if you note my point was that businessess should not be forced into this as they are with heterosexual couples. Homosexuals in our society already have a higher standard of living them any other group in our society and do not need the extra benefits afforded by traditional marriage.

http://www.thefreelibrary.com...

Do not hold me responsible for everything you see on that site but if a business wants to give prives to gays so be it but it should not be forced by law.
Aysohmay to Forum C... July 13, 2009 01:52:14

If a heterosexual couple gets certain benefits when they're married, so should homosexual couples, including these health benefits. SO what if we have a higher standard of living overall? That doesn't stop affluent heterosexual couples from having those rights. Like I said, when one group gets these benefits, and another group does not, its inequality, and I was under the impression we had moved away from that kind of thinking and had moved forward to where equality was something we'd defend. Apparently not.
Forum C... to Aysohmay July 13, 2009 01:59:22

We are referring to two different situations that in effect are not equal. A man and a woman being married is not equal to a man and a man which is why this is controversial. Traditional marriage has been between a man and woman and without a signficantly compelling argument I see no reason to change this. It is an established norm in our society that if changed merely adds an additional burden to our society!!

Look at it this way. If my 18 yo son want to remain under my health care but cannot because he is to old is that inequity because my 16 yo son can? They are not equal situations~~right? Inequity is the norm in our society, not the exception.
Aysohmay to Forum C... July 13, 2009 02:04:30

I see two people falling in love and wanting to get married as equal situations. It doesn't matter what the gender of the two who are in the couple is, what should matter is that they love each other enough to want to spend the rest of their lives together. While no one can stop them from doing that, denying homosexual couples the same opportunity to marriage is discrimination, and I for one won't sit back and allow discrimination to be institutionalized.
Forum C... to Aysohmay July 13, 2009 02:25:43

Institutionalized discrimination permeates every facet of our lives and it is up to the individual to determine how to pick their battles.

As I stated on the outset of this conversation~~this is not my passion.
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Jehnyahl~ Hope Not Hate July 05, 2009 15:24:38

Such ignorance would provide many hours of laughter if it didn't send chills down my spine.
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Leeaqua July 05, 2009 15:22:42

The only reason for marriage should be one humans love for another. No matter what else ! Hippocrits be gone !
steford July 05, 2009 14:25:10

It's just like free speech, there's a limit such as shouting FIRE in a crowded theatre. There are limits of just how much of your choice of perversion peopleare going to except and in my opinion you got it made now. The media adores you the celebs endorse you. Half the confused kids i the world wanna dress like you. There are people such as myself, who think you have way more rights than you should. We are the majority ,hence be happy with whatyou got andbe happy yo haven't got full blown AIDS (yet) + get right with the Lord before it's too late!
Aysohmay to steford July 05, 2009 14:35:29

Um, excuse me? Are you serious?

Yes, there are limits even in freedom, but marriage as a limit? I don't think so. YOu know why you can't scream "FIRE!" in a movie theater? It creates a clear and present danger. This cannot be said about homosexual marriages, whether you want to believe it or not.

So if the majority thinks the their treatment of minorities is ok, then we should accept it even if we don't agree with it? I don't think so. The minorities have a responsibility to have their voices heard just like anybody else. Furthermore, no one should sit back and relax as freedoms are taken away. Be happy with what you've got? We won't be happy until we're equal.
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Brosia July 05, 2009 01:14:23

They are trying to spread the unhappy marriages around. Their idea of equality is sexless marriages and sex with the mistress only.

I have always felt this way. That marriage is a symbol of love and health benefits. Gay people should have the right to both just like straight people.
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Aysohmay to Brosia July 05, 2009 01:59:44

I see marriage as a symbol of love too
Eliz July 05, 2009 00:53:37

So marriages conducted by the justice of the peace in a courtroom aren't legal?
Aysohmay to Eliz July 05, 2009 00:56:28

Justice of the peace?
Eliz to Aysohmay July 05, 2009 01:03:34

a local public officer, usually having jurisdiction to try and determine minor civil and criminal cases and to hold preliminary examinations of persons accused of more serious crimes, and having authority to administer oaths, solemnize marriages, etc.
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CopyrightAllInformation Ima... July 05, 2009 00:18:18

This should not even be an issue; this country is not a theocracy, and therefore those deemed to be legal adults, should have all the rights, as others. If you don't like it or believe it is evil, then fine, don't marry your same gender. I respect that, but leave homosexuals alone. If you are right about a higher power, then you made your case and tried to "save" your fellow man, and you should feel comfortable with that. To try to change laws, because you declare yourself the ultimate authority, on how others should live, goes against free will, and against "God", if he exists. Respect others and live your lives, and you'll be much happier.
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DavE to Copyrig... July 05, 2009 00:23:51

God has nothing to do with my disagreement with using the word "marriage" to describe homosexual unions.
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Copyrig... to DavE July 05, 2009 00:29:06 (edited)

Thanks for commenting. I read your posting. Do you believe that those whom cannot guarantee they will have children,whether by choice or otherwise, should not be allowed to marry then, or that their marriages should be disbanded, if they do not procreate? I am straight, but really do not understand what the issue is, with Gays being married. They are already entitled to much of the same rights, as would be derived with marriage, except, it's separate but equal status; I have an issue with that. *Grammar Edit*
Aysohmay to DavE July 05, 2009 00:32:56

For others though her comment does apply ^_^