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Homeless Man Found With Weapons, List of Names: Do You Fear Copycat Killers?

Heisenberg 2012/08/03 21:00:00
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SANFRANCISCO.CBSLOCAL.COM reports:
San Francisco Police displayed an array of weapons and ammunition Wednesday that were found in a homeless man's car last month in Golden Gate Park.
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  • FPSRules 2012/08/04 07:56:00
    No
    FPSRules
    +6
    Not really. What I do fear somewhat is the 'zombie-like' stupid's who make up the 45% of the population still supporting premier Obama. That scares me!

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  • shadow76 marcuss... 2012/08/04 08:35:03
    shadow76
    +1
    I have an angel on my shoulder, I fear no lunatic.
  • Marek shadow76 2012/08/06 02:22:12
    Marek
    I would say it is better to have both, an angel and a gun just in case.
  • shadow76 Marek 2012/08/06 02:36:10
    shadow76
    True
  • Dale 2012/08/04 00:33:12
    No
    Dale
    +2
    I don't fear the copycat, those a person can take precautions against falling victim. It is the folk that come up with something out of the wild that gives a person cause to think. That, and the stray shots from the neighborhood gang-bangers.
  • ZenerSix 2012/08/04 00:14:01 (edited)
  • CAPISCE 2012/08/03 23:36:47
    No
    CAPISCE
    +3
    Nope, I'm a gun owner
  • Bill 2012/08/03 23:36:15
    Yes
    Bill
    +2
    Figures it's another psychotic liberal from San Francisco.
  • gregory... Bill 2012/08/04 04:20:02
    gregory.ditzler
    +1
    If he's a Liberal why would he want to hurt Obama like he planned to? Sounds to me like a tea party terrorist.
  • Bill gregory... 2012/08/04 04:42:06
    Bill
    Probably because he wasn't homeless before Obama destroyed his job.
  • shadow76 gregory... 2012/08/04 08:36:03
    shadow76
    Sounds like a set up to me!
  • Devil's Advocate 2012/08/03 23:27:28
    Yes
    Devil's Advocate
    I find any kind of killer to be frightening......
  • Koma Devil's... 2012/08/04 02:44:28
    Koma
    +1
    Who's the killer here?
    Did anyone even break the law?
    Then what are you afraid of?
  • Devil's... Koma 2012/08/04 02:50:27
    Devil's Advocate
    +1
    The question is immensely stupid.
    The question itself is- 'Do you fear copycat killers?' The answer to that is yes. If the question was 'Do you fear a homeless guy armed to the teeth?', Id say no. But Id be wary.
    In essence, the two parts of the question do not correlate at all, youre right. Why is there even any mention of copycat killers when that has nothing to do with the original point of police finding a homeless guy with guns. Depending on what premise you were responding to, the answer was always going to sound stupid.
  • FatherLiberty 2012/08/03 23:26:50
    No
    FatherLiberty
    +2
    So having some firearms and names is an arrestable offense? Better get rid of my contact list in my phone.... I might suddenly decide to hunt them all down.
  • I don't like Obama in office 2012/08/03 21:31:24
    No
    I don't like Obama in office
    If we in the United States could only our elected to understand how to work with the nra to understand what the framers meant by the The Leagues of common defense....and the NON Active Militia reserve was you and me... The Military was the Active paid side of it...



    The Dick Act of 1902 also known as the Efficiency of Militia Bill H.R. 11654, of June 28, 1902 invalidates all so-called gun-control laws. It also divides the militia into three distinct and separate entities,

    The Honorable William Gordon
    Congressional Record, House, Page 640 - 1917
    http://www.knowthelies.com/?q...
  • I don't... I don't... 2012/08/03 21:32:55
    I don't like Obama in office
    +1
    Story affirmed the right of self-defense by persons held illegally. In his own writings, he had admitted that ‘a situation could arise in which the checks-and-balances principle ceased to work and the various branches of government concurred in a gross usurpation.’ There would be no usual remedy by changing the law or passing an amendment to the Constitution, should the oppressed party be a minority. Story concluded, ‘If there be any remedy at all ... it is a remedy never provided for by human institutions.’ That was the ‘ultimate right of all human beings in extreme cases to resist oppression, and to apply force against ruinous injustice.’” (From Mutiny on the Amistad by Howard Jones, Oxford University Press, 1987, an account of the reading of the decision in the case by Justice Joseph Story of the Supreme Court.
    As for grounds for arrest: “The carrying of arms in a quiet, peaceable, and orderly manner, concealed on or about the person, is not a breach of the peace. Nor does such an act of itself, lead to a breach of the peace.” (Wharton’s Criminal and Civil Procedure, 12th Ed., Vol.2: Judy v. Lashley, 5 W. Va. 628, 41 S.E. 197)

    There are those that Act as Law Enforcement out side of the law , in such cases We do have a right to defend our self as a non Active militia rese...

    Story affirmed the right of self-defense by persons held illegally. In his own writings, he had admitted that ‘a situation could arise in which the checks-and-balances principle ceased to work and the various branches of government concurred in a gross usurpation.’ There would be no usual remedy by changing the law or passing an amendment to the Constitution, should the oppressed party be a minority. Story concluded, ‘If there be any remedy at all ... it is a remedy never provided for by human institutions.’ That was the ‘ultimate right of all human beings in extreme cases to resist oppression, and to apply force against ruinous injustice.’” (From Mutiny on the Amistad by Howard Jones, Oxford University Press, 1987, an account of the reading of the decision in the case by Justice Joseph Story of the Supreme Court.
    As for grounds for arrest: “The carrying of arms in a quiet, peaceable, and orderly manner, concealed on or about the person, is not a breach of the peace. Nor does such an act of itself, lead to a breach of the peace.” (Wharton’s Criminal and Civil Procedure, 12th Ed., Vol.2: Judy v. Lashley, 5 W. Va. 628, 41 S.E. 197)

    There are those that Act as Law Enforcement out side of the law , in such cases We do have a right to defend our self as a non Active militia reserve a equal part of the League of common defense. When they have not shown just warrants and or have not the legal backing of the Courts with such definded

    http://www.constitution.org/u...
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  • I don't... I don't... 2012/08/03 21:36:35 (edited)
    I don't like Obama in office
    +1
    To hold or arrest him on the Charge of Just having the Guns , is wrong. That would be seeking to conspire to deprive Civil rights Acts 1871 , A Act of Constructive treason such grounds for counter suit



    exaggerated false pretence
    http://www.law.cornell.edu/us...
    42 USC § 1986 - Action for neglect to prevent
    Every person who, having knowledge that any of the wrongs conspired to be done, and mentioned in section 1985 of this title, are about to be committed, and having power to prevent or aid in preventing the commission of the same, neglects or refuses so to do, if such wrongful act be committed, shall be liable to the party injured, or his legal representatives, for all damages caused by such wrongful act, which such person by reasonable diligence could have prevented; and such damages may be recovered in an action on the case; and any number of persons guilty of such wrongful neglect or refusal may be joined as defendants in the action; and if the death of any party be caused by any such wrongful act and neglect, the legal representatives of the deceased shall have such action therefor, and may recover not exceeding $5,000 damages therein, for the benefit of the widow of the deceased, if there be one, and if there be no widow, then for the benefit of the next of kin of ...
    To hold or arrest him on the Charge of Just having the Guns , is wrong. That would be seeking to conspire to deprive Civil rights Acts 1871 , A Act of Constructive treason such grounds for counter suit



    exaggerated false pretence
    http://www.law.cornell.edu/us...
    42 USC § 1986 - Action for neglect to prevent
    Every person who, having knowledge that any of the wrongs conspired to be done, and mentioned in section 1985 of this title, are about to be committed, and having power to prevent or aid in preventing the commission of the same, neglects or refuses so to do, if such wrongful act be committed, shall be liable to the party injured, or his legal representatives, for all damages caused by such wrongful act, which such person by reasonable diligence could have prevented; and such damages may be recovered in an action on the case; and any number of persons guilty of such wrongful neglect or refusal may be joined as defendants in the action; and if the death of any party be caused by any such wrongful act and neglect, the legal representatives of the deceased shall have such action therefor, and may recover not exceeding $5,000 damages therein, for the benefit of the widow of the deceased, if there be one, and if there be no widow, then for the benefit of the next of kin of the deceased. But no action under the provisions of this section shall be sustained which is not commenced within one year after the cause of action has accrued.
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  • Lefty 2012/08/03 21:10:22
    No
    Lefty
    Don't fear anything, but do for others!
  • kobidob... Lefty 2012/08/24 01:15:53 (edited)
    kobidobidog
    People that don't give fear have perfect love doing good to others. That is Very good Brian^^.
  • Elz 2012/08/03 20:18:18
    Yes
    Elz
    i fear any kind of killer there is.
  • Mog of War 2012/08/03 19:45:16
    No
    Mog of War
    +3
    This man had his means of self-defense taken from him because he has no home to keep his guns in. The perversion here is 100 guns are cheaper than the most deplorable house a person can buy... But this man didn't have 100 guns, he didn't even have 10. He just had enough weapons defend himself or barter for FOOD! The deal is they took his weapons from him, but the didn't take him off the street. If he's not safe to be on the streets with the weapons, he's not safe to have on the streets without them.
  • I don't... Mog of War 2012/08/03 21:48:22 (edited)
    I don't like Obama in office
    +2
    From what I have read from the days of the old west and still on the Books, when you was released from jail not only did you get your fire arms so back if in fact it was {lost} One then couLd so buy one to so repleace such as well 4 you was to be given a gold piece and so a horse OR THE EQUAL RESPECT OF so one would not be defense less & A destitute vagrant... thus was to be or have been apart of the history behind the 8th Amendment , Fifth Amendment – due process, double jeopardy, self-incrimination, eminent domain.
    No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation , http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
  • firelooker 2012/08/03 19:07:39
    No
    firelooker
    +2
    This was in SF? How can that be doesn't CA have some of the toughest gun control laws? No id on't worry about copy cat killers, I worry about the libs who want to disarm law abiding citizens so we can't defend ourselves against these idiots.
  • Kronan_1 2012/08/03 18:42:52
    No
    Kronan_1
    +2
    What this misleading report failed to do was state what actual crime ,if any, this man commited. The commie pigs confiscate his weapons and arrest him for what? As far as I see he has commited no crime and should be left alone.
  • Tim Upham 2012/08/03 18:21:22
    No
    Tim Upham
    +3
    No because the Manson Family Murders were never replicated. Neither was Jeffrey Dahmer's cannibalistic murders. There are sick people out there, but how many are willing to go though the mechanics of committing these types of murders.
  • Michael 2012/08/03 18:09:14
    Yes
    Michael
    +2
    Deranged persons do deranged things, and are sometimes NOT original!
  • ACE BOO... Michael 2012/08/04 00:05:52
    ACE BOONE COONE
    +1
    But a deranged person is going to do deranged things regardless if its with a gun, knife, club, or just strangle some one. What is important is us good people being able to protect ourselves and others. They will never disarm the criminals anymore effectively than they have stripped them of drugs, and they have been trying to do that for over a hundred years, and there are more drugs on the street now than ever. This proves that the criminals will always have guns. And it proves we should have one to for protection.
  • Sailor ... Michael 2012/08/04 08:33:40
    Sailor Jerry
    +1
    fear not the psychopath, but do fear the politician.
  • tdterry1999 2012/08/03 17:59:25
    No
    tdterry1999
    +2
    Coming from SANFRANCISCO.CBSLOCAL.COM reports:
    I would have to really check this story out.Just to make sure it's true.
  • Ken 2012/08/03 17:49:41
    Yes
    Ken
    +2
    The news media glorifies them.
  • Freeranger 2012/08/03 17:42:07
    No
    Freeranger
    +3
    I don't. However, copycatters are a recognized phenomena. If only the average joe can draw his carry concealed weapon and shoot a few, the rest might reconsider......
  • mustangluver 2012/08/03 16:46:38
    Yes
    mustangluver
    +2
    Ppl don't seem to realize that homeless doesn't mean possesionless. There was a guy that was standing by our supermarket begging money and he wasn't homeless at all, as a matter of fact, he owned a beautiful house.
  • firelooker mustang... 2012/08/03 19:10:19
    firelooker
    +2
    Sounds like a plan, why work if you can beg! He probably was getting welfare and foodstamps and free health care at our expense too!
  • mustang... firelooker 2012/08/08 02:31:06
    mustangluver
    Yes he was.
  • firelooker mustang... 2012/08/08 20:31:03
    firelooker
    +1
    I see them all the time. Last week a young couple was standing outside Albertsons asking for gas money, later I saw them get into a newer model car w/ some others, their car was a hell of a lot newer than either one of mine.
  • mustang... firelooker 2012/08/09 05:58:40
    mustangluver
    There are tons of grifters and scammers out there now.
  • ID51 2012/08/03 16:44:08
    No
    ID51
    +2
    No, but I do fear nutcases, and there seems to be a lot of them!
  • Michael=Constitution & Liberty 2012/08/03 16:43:24
    No
    Michael=Constitution & Liberty
    +5
    not in anyway, shape or form...
    media BS scares me more!
  • firelooker Michael... 2012/08/03 19:11:28
    firelooker
    +3
    Yep especially the lamestream liberal media. Even Fox is becoming lamestream.
  • Mimosa 2012/08/03 16:42:34
    No
    Mimosa
    +1
    Society has made victims out of millions, rendering them homeless. Perhaps this man had vidication in mind. One should find out the motives before making judgments.

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