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Hindu Religion Deniers try denying THIS:
These Near Death Experience accounts PROVE that Hinduism is true!
"Vasudev Pandey was interviewed in 1975 and again in 1976. He was
born in 1921 and had nearly died in his home of what he described as
"paratyphoid disease" when he was about 10 years old. Vasudev had been
considered dead and his body had actually been taken to the cremation
ground. However, some indications of life aroused attention, and Vasudev
was removed to the hospital where doctors tried to revive him, using
"injections," with eventual success. He remained unconscious for 3 days
and then became able to describe the following experience (as narrated
to us in 1975):
"Two persons caught me and took me with them. I felt tired after
walking some distance; they started to drag me. My feet became useless.
There was a man sitting up. He looked dreadful and was all black. He was
not wearing any clothes. He said in a rage [to the attendants who had
brought Vasudev] "I had asked you to bring Vasudev the gardener. Our
garden is drying up. You have brought Vasudev the student." When I
regained consciousness, Vasudev the gardener was standing in front of me
[apparently in the crowd of family and servants who had gathered around
the bed of the ostensibly dead Vasudev]. He was hale and hearty. People
started teasing him saying, "Now it is your turn." He seemed to sleep
well in the night, but the next morning he was dead."
In reply to questions about details, Vasudev said that the "black
man" had a club and used foul language. Vasudev identified him as
Yamraj, the Hindu god of the dead. He said that he was "brought back" by
the same two men who had taken him to Yamraj in the first place. "
"Durga Jatav, a man approximately 50 years old, was interviewed in
November, 1979, and again 3 months later. About 30 years before, he had
been ill for several weeks, suffering from what had been diagnosed as
typhoid. When his body "became cold" for a couple of hours, his family
thought he had died. He revived, however, and on the third day following
this he told his family he had been taken to another place by 10
people. He had tried to escape, but they had then cut off his legs at
the knees to prevent his escape. He was taken to a place where there
were tables and chairs and 40 or 50 people sitting. He recognized no
one. They looked at his "papers," saw that his name was not on their
list, and said, "Why have you brought him here? Take him back." To this
Durga had replied, "How can I go back? I don't have feet." He was then
shown several pairs of legs, he recognized his own, and they were
somehow reattached. He was then sent back with the instructions not to
"stretch" (bend?) his knees so that they could mend. (Durga's older
sister, who was also interviewed, corroborated his account of his
apparent death and revival.)
Durga's sister and a neighbor noticed a few days after he revived
that marks had appeared on his knees; there had previously been no such
marks there. These folds, or deep fissures, in the skin on the front of
Durga's knees were still visible in 1979. There was no bleeding or pain
in the knees other than the discomfort engendered by Durga's following
the "instructions" to keep his knees in a fixed position. X-ray
photographs that we had taken in 1981 showed no abnormality below the
surface of the skin.
Durga had not heard of such experiences before his own near-death
experience. He did not see his physical body from some other position in
space. He said that afterward the experience seemed like a dream;
nevertheless, he claimed that it had strengthened his faith in God."
"Chhajju Bania was interviewed in 1981, at which time he was about
40 years old. His near-death experience had occurred some 6 years
earlier. He became ill with fever and his condition deteriorated until
he was thought to have died, at which time his relatives began preparing
his body for cremation. However, he revived, and he gave the following
account of his experience as he remembered it afterward:
"Four black messengers came and held me. I asked, "Where are you
taking me?" They took me and seated me near the god. My body had become
small. There was an old lady sitting there. She had a pen in her hand,
and the clerks had a heap of books in front of them. I was summoned ...
One of the clerks said, "We don't need Chhajju Bania (trader). We had
asked for Chhajju Kumhar (potter). Push him back and bring the other
man. He (meaning Chhajju Bania) has some life remaining." I asked the
clerks to give me some work to do, but not to send me back. Yamraj was
there sitting on a high chair with a white beard and wearing yellow
clothes. He asked me, "What do you want?" I told him that I wanted to
stay there. He asked me to extend my hand. I don't remember whether he
gave me something or not. Then I was pushed down [and revived]."
Chhajju mentioned that he later learned that a person called
Chhajju Kumhar had died at about the same time that he (Chhajju Bania)
revived. He said that his behavior had changed following his near-death
experience, particularly in the direction of his becoming more honest."
"Mangal Singh was interviewed in March, 1983, when he was 79 years
old. He described his near-death experience, which had occurred
approximately 5 or 6 years earlier. Unlike most subjects who have had
near-death experiences, he was not ill at the time, or did not consider
himself to be so. He gave the following description of his experience:
"I was lying down on a cot when two people came, lifted me up, and
took me along. I heard a hissing sound, but I couldn't see anything.
Then I came to a gate. There was grass, and the ground seemed to be
sloping. A man was there, and he reprimanded the men who had brought me,
"Why have you brought the wrong person? Why have you not brought the
man you had been sent for?" The two men [who had brought Mangal] ran
away, and the senior man said, "You go back." Suddenly I saw two big
pots of boiling water, although there was no fire, no firewood, and no
fireplace. Then the man pushed me with his hand and said, "You had
better hurry up and go back." When he touched me, I suddenly became
aware of how hot his hand was. Then I realized why the pots were
boiling. The heat was coming from his hands. Suddenly I regained
consciousness, and I had a severe burning sensation in my left arm."
The area developed the appearance of a boil. Mangal showed it to a
doctor who applied some ointment. The area healed within 3 days but
left a residual mark on the left arm, which was examined."
These Near Death Experience accounts PROVE that Hinduism is true!
"Vasudev Pandey was interviewed in 1975 and again in 1976. He was
born in 1921 and had nearly died in his home of what he described as
"paratyphoid disease" when he was about 10 years old. Vasudev had been
considered dead and his body had actually been taken to the cremation
ground. However, some indications of life aroused attention, and Vasudev
was removed to the hospital where doctors tried to revive him, using
"injections," with eventual success. He remained unconscious for 3 days
and then became able to describe the following experience (as narrated
to us in 1975):
"Two persons caught me and took me with them. I felt tired after
walking some distance; they started to drag me. My feet became useless.
There was a man sitting up. He looked dreadful and was all black. He was
not wearing any clothes. He said in a rage [to the attendants who had
brought Vasudev] "I had asked you to bring Vasudev the gardener. Our
garden is drying up. You have brought Vasudev the student." When I
regained consciousness, Vasudev the gardener was standing in front of me
[apparently in the crowd of family and servants who had gathered around
the bed of the ostensibly dead Vasudev]. He was hale and hearty. People
started teasing him saying, "Now it is your turn." He seemed to sleep
well in the night, but the next morning he was dead."
In reply to questions about details, Vasudev said that the "black
man" had a club and used foul language. Vasudev identified him as
Yamraj, the Hindu god of the dead. He said that he was "brought back" by
the same two men who had taken him to Yamraj in the first place. "
"Durga Jatav, a man approximately 50 years old, was interviewed in
November, 1979, and again 3 months later. About 30 years before, he had
been ill for several weeks, suffering from what had been diagnosed as
typhoid. When his body "became cold" for a couple of hours, his family
thought he had died. He revived, however, and on the third day following
this he told his family he had been taken to another place by 10
people. He had tried to escape, but they had then cut off his legs at
the knees to prevent his escape. He was taken to a place where there
were tables and chairs and 40 or 50 people sitting. He recognized no
one. They looked at his "papers," saw that his name was not on their
list, and said, "Why have you brought him here? Take him back." To this
Durga had replied, "How can I go back? I don't have feet." He was then
shown several pairs of legs, he recognized his own, and they were
somehow reattached. He was then sent back with the instructions not to
"stretch" (bend?) his knees so that they could mend. (Durga's older
sister, who was also interviewed, corroborated his account of his
apparent death and revival.)
Durga's sister and a neighbor noticed a few days after he revived
that marks had appeared on his knees; there had previously been no such
marks there. These folds, or deep fissures, in the skin on the front of
Durga's knees were still visible in 1979. There was no bleeding or pain
in the knees other than the discomfort engendered by Durga's following
the "instructions" to keep his knees in a fixed position. X-ray
photographs that we had taken in 1981 showed no abnormality below the
surface of the skin.
Durga had not heard of such experiences before his own near-death
experience. He did not see his physical body from some other position in
space. He said that afterward the experience seemed like a dream;
nevertheless, he claimed that it had strengthened his faith in God."
"Chhajju Bania was interviewed in 1981, at which time he was about
40 years old. His near-death experience had occurred some 6 years
earlier. He became ill with fever and his condition deteriorated until
he was thought to have died, at which time his relatives began preparing
his body for cremation. However, he revived, and he gave the following
account of his experience as he remembered it afterward:
"Four black messengers came and held me. I asked, "Where are you
taking me?" They took me and seated me near the god. My body had become
small. There was an old lady sitting there. She had a pen in her hand,
and the clerks had a heap of books in front of them. I was summoned ...
One of the clerks said, "We don't need Chhajju Bania (trader). We had
asked for Chhajju Kumhar (potter). Push him back and bring the other
man. He (meaning Chhajju Bania) has some life remaining." I asked the
clerks to give me some work to do, but not to send me back. Yamraj was
there sitting on a high chair with a white beard and wearing yellow
clothes. He asked me, "What do you want?" I told him that I wanted to
stay there. He asked me to extend my hand. I don't remember whether he
gave me something or not. Then I was pushed down [and revived]."
Chhajju mentioned that he later learned that a person called
Chhajju Kumhar had died at about the same time that he (Chhajju Bania)
revived. He said that his behavior had changed following his near-death
experience, particularly in the direction of his becoming more honest."
"Mangal Singh was interviewed in March, 1983, when he was 79 years
old. He described his near-death experience, which had occurred
approximately 5 or 6 years earlier. Unlike most subjects who have had
near-death experiences, he was not ill at the time, or did not consider
himself to be so. He gave the following description of his experience:
"I was lying down on a cot when two people came, lifted me up, and
took me along. I heard a hissing sound, but I couldn't see anything.
Then I came to a gate. There was grass, and the ground seemed to be
sloping. A man was there, and he reprimanded the men who had brought me,
"Why have you brought the wrong person? Why have you not brought the
man you had been sent for?" The two men [who had brought Mangal] ran
away, and the senior man said, "You go back." Suddenly I saw two big
pots of boiling water, although there was no fire, no firewood, and no
fireplace. Then the man pushed me with his hand and said, "You had
better hurry up and go back." When he touched me, I suddenly became
aware of how hot his hand was. Then I realized why the pots were
boiling. The heat was coming from his hands. Suddenly I regained
consciousness, and I had a severe burning sensation in my left arm."
The area developed the appearance of a boil. Mangal showed it to a
doctor who applied some ointment. The area healed within 3 days but
left a residual mark on the left arm, which was examined."
The Messianic Idea in Judaism
Belief in the eventual coming of the mashiach is a basic and fundamental part of traditional Judaism. It is part of Rambam's 13 Principles of Faith, the minimum requirements of Jewish belief. In the Shemoneh Esrei prayer, recited three times daily, we pray for all of the elements of the coming of the mashiach: ingathering of the exiles; restoration of the religious courts of justice; an end of wickedness, sin and heresy; reward to the righteous; rebuilding of Jerusalem; restoration of the line of King David; and restoration of Temple service.
Modern scholars suggest that the messianic concept was introduced later in the history of Judaism, during the age of the prophets. They note that the messianic concept is not explicitly mentioned anywhere in the Torah (the first five books of the Bible).
However, traditional Judaism maintains that the messianic idea has always been a part of Judaism. The mashiach is not mentioned explicitly in the Torah, because the Torah was written in terms that all people could understand, and the abstract concept of a distant, spiritual, future reward was beyond the comprehension of some people. However, the Torah contains several references to "the End of Days" (acharit ha-yamim), which is th...
The Messianic Idea in Judaism
Belief in the eventual coming of the mashiach is a basic and fundamental part of traditional Judaism. It is part of Rambam's 13 Principles of Faith, the minimum requirements of Jewish belief. In the Shemoneh Esrei prayer, recited three times daily, we pray for all of the elements of the coming of the mashiach: ingathering of the exiles; restoration of the religious courts of justice; an end of wickedness, sin and heresy; reward to the righteous; rebuilding of Jerusalem; restoration of the line of King David; and restoration of Temple service.
Modern scholars suggest that the messianic concept was introduced later in the history of Judaism, during the age of the prophets. They note that the messianic concept is not explicitly mentioned anywhere in the Torah (the first five books of the Bible).
However, traditional Judaism maintains that the messianic idea has always been a part of Judaism. The mashiach is not mentioned explicitly in the Torah, because the Torah was written in terms that all people could understand, and the abstract concept of a distant, spiritual, future reward was beyond the comprehension of some people. However, the Torah contains several references to "the End of Days" (acharit ha-yamim), which is the time of the mashiach; thus, the concept of mashiach was known in the most ancient times.
The term "mashiach" literally means "the anointed one," and refers to the ancient practice of anointing kings with oil when they took the throne. The mashiach is the one who will be anointed as king in the End of Days.
The word "mashiach" does not mean "savior." The notion of an innocent, divine or semi-divine being who will sacrifice himself to save us from the consequences of our own sins is a purely Christian concept that has no basis in Jewish thought. Unfortunately, this Christian concept has become so deeply ingrained in the English word "messiah" that this English word can no longer be used to refer to the Jewish concept. The word "mashiach" will be used throughout this page.
Some gentiles have told me that the term "mashiach" is related to the Hebrew term "moshiah" (savior) because they sound similar, but the similarity is not as strong as it appears to one unfamiliar with Hebrew. The Hebrew word "mashiach" comes from the root Mem-Shin-Chet, which means to paint, smear, or annoint. The word "moshiah" comes from the root Yod-Shin-Ayin, which means to help or save. The only letter these roots have in common is Shin, the most common letter in the Hebrew language. The "m" sound at the beginning of the word moshiah (savior) is a common prefix used to turn a verb into a noun. For example, the verb tzavah (to command) becomes mitzvah (commandment). Saying that "mashiach" is related to "moshiah" is a bit like saying that ring is related to surfing because they both end in "ing."
The Mashiach
The mashiach will be a great political leader descended from King David (Jeremiah 23:5). The mashiach is often referred to as "mashiach ben David" (mashiach, son of David). He will be well-versed in Jewish law, and observant of its commandments (Isaiah 11:2-5). He will be a charismatic leader, inspiring others to follow his example. He will be a great military leader, who will win battles for Israel. He will be a great judge, who makes righteous decisions (Jeremiah 33:15). But above all, he will be a human being, not a god, demi-god or other supernatural being.
It has been said that in every generation, a person is born with the potential to be the mashiach. If the time is right for the messianic age within that person's lifetime, then that person will be the mashiach. But if that person dies before he completes the mission of the mashiach, then that person is not the mashiach.
When Will the Mashiach Come?
There are a wide variety of opinions on the subject of when the mashiach will come. Some of Judaism's greatest minds have cursed those who try to predict the time of the mashiach's coming, because errors in such predictions could cause people to lose faith in the messianic idea or in Judaism itself. This actually happened in the 17th century, when Shabbatai Tzvi claimed to be the mashiach. When Tzvi converted to Islam under threat of death, many Jews converted with him. Nevertheless, this prohibition has not stopped anyone from speculating about the time when the mashiach will come.
Although some scholars believed that G-d has set aside a specific date for the coming of the mashiach, most authority suggests that the conduct of mankind will determine the time of the mashiach's coming. In general, it is believed that the mashiach will come in a time when he is most needed (because the world is so sinful), or in a time when he is most deserved (because the world is so good). For example, each of the following has been suggested as the time when the mashiach will come:
if Israel repented a single day;
if Israel observed a single Shabbat properly;
if Israel observed two Shabbats in a row properly;
in a generation that is totally innocent or totally guilty;
in a generation that loses hope;
in a generation where children are totally disrespectful towards their parents and elders;
What Will the Mashiach Do?
Before the time of the mashiach, there shall be war and suffering (Ezekiel 38:16)
The mashiach will bring about the political and spiritual redemption of the Jewish people by bringing us back to Israel and restoring Jerusalem (Isaiah 11:11-12; Jeremiah 23:8; 30:3; Hosea 3:4-5). He will establish a government in Israel that will be the center of all world government, both for Jews and gentiles (Isaiah 2:2-4; 11:10; 42:1). He will rebuild the Temple and re-establish its worship (Jeremiah 33:18). He will restore the religious court system of Israel and establish Jewish law as the law of the land (Jeremiah 33:15).
Olam Ha-Ba: The Messianic Age
The world after the messiah comes is often referred to in Jewish literature as Olam Ha-Ba (oh-LAHM hah-BAH), the World to Come. This term can cause some confusion, because it is also used to refer to a spiritual afterlife. In English, we commonly use the term "messianic age" to refer specifically to the time of the messiah.
Olam Ha-Ba will be characterized by the peaceful co-existence of all people (Isaiah 2:4). Hatred, intolerance and war will cease to exist. Some authorities suggest that the laws of nature will change, so that predatory beasts will no longer seek prey and agriculture will bring forth supernatural abundance (Isaiah 11:6-11:9). Others, however, say that these statements are merely an allegory for peace and prosperity.
All of the Jewish people will return from their exile among the nations to their home in Israel (Isaiah 11:11-12; Jeremiah 23:8; 30:3; Hosea 3:4-5). The law of the Jubilee will be reinstated.
In the Olam Ha-Ba, the whole world will recognize the Jewish G-d as the only true G-d, and the Jewish religion as the only true religion (Isaiah 2:3; 11:10; Micah 4:2-3; Zechariah 14:9). There will be no murder, robbery, competition or jealousy. There will be no sin (Zephaniah 3:13). Sacrifices will continue to be brought in the Temple, but these will be limited to thanksgiving offerings, because there will be no further need for expiatory offerings.
Some gentiles have tried to put an ugly spin on this theology, claiming that Jews plan to force people to convert to our religion, perhaps based on their own religion's history of doing exactly the same thing. That is not at all how Jews understand the messianic age. We believe that in that future time, everyone will simply know what the truth is, in the same way that we know that 2+2=4, and there will no longer be any reason to argue about it. It is much like a situation I witnessed at work once: two computer programmers were arguing loudly and at length about whether it was possible for a user to input data at a certain point in a program. Finally someone pressed a key and they all saw that nothing happened. Now they knew the truth, end of argument. When mashiach comes, theological truths will be equally obvious to mankind, and there will be no reason to argue about it.
What About Jesus?
Jews do not believe that Jesus was the mashiach. Assuming that he existed, and assuming that the Christian scriptures are accurate in describing him (both matters that are debatable), he simply did not fulfill the mission of the mashiach as it is described in the biblical passages cited above. Jesus did not do any of the things that the scriptures said the messiah would do.
On the contrary, another Jew born about a century later came far closer to fulfilling the messianic ideal than Jesus did. His name was Shimeon ben Kosiba, known as Bar Kokhba (son of a star), and he was a charismatic, brilliant, but brutal warlord. Rabbi Akiba, one of the greatest scholars in Jewish history, believed that Bar Kokhba was the mashiach. Bar Kokhba fought a war against the Roman Empire, catching the Tenth Legion by surprise and retaking Jerusalem. He resumed sacrifices at the site of the Temple and made plans to rebuild the Temple. He established a provisional government and began to issue coins in its name. This is what the Jewish people were looking for in a mashiach; Jesus clearly does not fit into this mold. Ultimately, however, the Roman Empire crushed his revolt and killed Bar Kokhba. After his death, all acknowledged that he was not the mashiach.
Throughout Jewish history, there have been many people who have claimed to be the mashiach, or whose followers have claimed that they were the mashiach: Shimeon Bar Kokhba, Shabbatai Tzvi, Jesus, and many others too numerous to name. Leo Rosten reports some very entertaining accounts under the entry for meshiekh in The New Joys of Yiddish. But all of these people died without fulfilling the mission of the mashiach; therefore, none of them were the mashiach. The mashiach and the Olam Ha-Ba lie in the future, not in the past.
Biblical Passages Referring to the Mashiach
The following passages in the Jewish scriptures are the ones that Jews consider to be messianic in nature or relating to the end of days. These are the ones that we rely upon in developing our messianic concept:
Isaiah 2, 11, 42; 59:20
Jeremiah 23, 30, 33; 48:47; 49:39
Ezekiel 38:16
Hosea 3:4-3:5
Micah 4
Zephaniah 3:9
Zechariah 14:9
Daniel 10:14
The brain can hallucinate for a number of reason and it is easily done by lack of food, water, oxygen and it can produce very vivid images that appear to be very real. Any person can interpret them any way the chose to and religion is a frequent theme.