High-Taxing Empire State Loses 3.4 Million Residents in 10 Years?

People have been leaving CA in droves too ! The socialism welfare state continues to fail. People have feet and move to lower tax areas. I live in WI and it is a struggle with the liberals but we are holding our own. I used to think that there was no hope for this state but now we have a very strong conservative base here. we will have a budget surplus and our rankings in the business community have improved dramatically. we are no longer losing jobs.

It's amazing that anyone with half a brain can see the major differences between the socialist welfare state and a state that uses conservative/libertarian principles that our country was founded on and yet the liberals continue their crap !

my father left Italy in 1957 because he wanted opportunity and to work. socialism wasn't working too well back then and they have changed very little since then. he comes here and he votes for the same crap. he is a big Democrat. you can't take the big government mentality out of some people !

I'm one of those people who left New York for greener pastures.

I'm in Nevada now, which has no state income tax and a hell of a lot fewer restrictions on personal freedoms. Now, that I've tasted something closer to freedom, I won't go back.

NYS used to be great. Now, it's hollowing out. Upstate is in a terrible decline. It's sad to those of us with roots there. And, I blame the government. It calls NYS the Empire State and it means it. Soon it's "Empire" will be welfare recipients, state workers & people who can't leave for whatever reason.

prosper, when you lived in New York state, were you a conservative voter?

Libertarian/conservative mostly.

I was liberal until I got my 1st adult job, in a food stamp office. That taught me a lot.

I can just imagine the hell you caught from your neighbors and coworkers. Glad you escaped to what little remains of the country.

Thanks,

Actually, I'm from upstate, there aren't too many liberals there & most of them tend to be blue dogs, which I can deal with. But, I am glad to be out of there for many reasons.

I can just imagine the hell you received from neighbors and coworkers. I'm glad you escaped to what little remains of the country

I'll bet California has gotcha beat.

The number of people leaving California for another state outstripped the number moving in from another state during the year ending on July 1, 2008. California lost a net total of 144,000 people during that period — more than any other state, according to census estimates. That is about equal to the population of Syracuse, N.Y.

The state with the next-highest net loss through migration between states was New York, which lost just over 126,000 residents.

High tax states are failing like crazy, as they should.

Doesn't surprise me. It also would not surprise me that many of those who moved in are on the welfare rolls by now.

I know that NYC was sending people to upstate cities that were struggling to keep their population high enough to remain cities.

It wouldn't surprise me if other states were sending people to NY.

Yeah, Maybe they are. Wouldn't that be a riot?

The good news for the rest of us is fewer liberal Rep. in Congress from New York. I know that some will say that the New Yorkers that left will just help elect more liberals from other parts of the country but I don't think so. Most who leave have realized what cost of a liberal, nanny state really is.

Liberals who left California have turned other areas (Nevada, Montana, Colorado) into liberal bastions. When millions of liberals flee a heavily populated states for sparsely populated ones they can change the political landscape pretty quickly. Liberals didn't learn anything in a nanny state environment; they still think it's the future.

Funny that. They leave an area because it's now too expensive to live in. Then they try to impose the same policies that ruined the first place.

my father left Italy in 1957 because he wanted opportunity and to work. socialism wasn't working too well back then and they have changed very little since then. he comes here and he votes for the same crap. he is a big Democrat. you can't take the big government mentality out of some people ! we get along fine until we dicuss politics. he simply cannot understand.

I can't help but believe at least some of those people comprehended why they left and what caused it. I may be optimistic. Hopefully someone who has left will read this and comment.

you are overly optimistic. liberals are not able to comprehend that it was their own policies that made them want to leave. they will believe in the welfare state until the day that they die. actually I have met some people who are on the fringe and they are able to understand.

my father left Italy in 1957 because he wanted opportunity and to work. socialism wasn't working too well back then and they have changed very little since then. he comes here and he votes for the same crap. he is a big Democrat. you can't take the big government mentality out of some people !

Tax 'em and they will leave. And the poor(er) will pick up the tab. Does not make a whole lot of sense to me.

As I see it,

tax'em and they will leave, then taxes will increase even more on who is left to prop up the parasites sucking off of the nanny state teat.

When will governments figure it out?

Yep, it leads to the situation that you have in Greece. The tax base won't support the spending the state is doing. So, they borrow the difference until the credit becomes unsustainable. Then you need a bailout from a larger entity. But, what happens when the largest entities run out of money?

"what happens when the largest entities run out of money?"


I think that we are seeing the answer to that in Greece and Spain. Sooner or later the largest entities are unwilling or unable to lend and a meltdown takes place.

I don't know how much longer it will take place here in our country but we need to get a handle on it or it will handle us.

exactly.