Hey.... HeyHeyHey... Hey you.. Hey.... Guess what? Did you know Christianity doesn't own marriage? I'm really tired of people acting like it does................

Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm assuming this is some "gay marriage" promotion.

Here in Japan, which has very few Christians, "gay marriage" isn't even being talked about. Most people see it as just too silly or insane to even consider.

So, obviously, it's not just a "Christian thing" to oppose "gay marriage."

Besides Japan, most of the world's countries are not even close to legalizing "gay marriage" -- and a great many of these countries are not predominantly Christian.

agreee agreee agreeeeeeeee

He shall never be caught!!................ and i dont think religion can own anything in the material world, and if your talking about those Christians that think they have a right to deny our free will then im with you!! god gave us free will the ability to chose him on our own and we have no right to deny the choices of other or forcefully try to change them!

i knew that

No matter what religion you are or atheist, you can be married.

Your many heys got me lmao ^-^ I had to answer.

it was around before and will be around after

It preceded Christianity, but that doesn't delegitimize Christian marriage.

Nah uh!?!? I'm just saying Christians shouldn't control who marries who because they don't have ownership of it.

With that I agree. As a philosophic Christian I have never wanted to deny marriage to anyone. In fact I don't even argue against polygamy.

Thank you!

It was very easy to verify, just check and you will find there is no copywrite on the word "Marriage".

Are there Christians arguing to the contrary? I've seen no evidence of Christians anywhere arguing that they own marriage or have a copyright on it.

Check the 31 states that voted the xtian view of marriage into their state constitutions. Each of them used the excuse, because the bible said so,...

That's the view held by mass-murdering dictators. Why would you want to agree with them?

It's the view of a lot of people. Not just them.

For the record, x = Christ.

I prefer to solve for x.

Ikr!! Christans think they can own people but they can't people can marry whoever they want

Does this mean that common law should accept the marriage of a cat and a telephone pole?

I'm pretty sure he's talking about two consenting adults, which is how marriage should be...

Marriage is not an issue of should. It's a matter of common law handed down through the ages, along with religious practice in parallel. The definition of marriage has never been attached to any relationship that wasn't heterosexual in nature; and it's never even been attached to all heterosexual relationships.

In contemplation of law, judges will often refer to "the dictionary definition," "the common meaning," or "the plain and natural meaning" of a term in resolving an issue. Marriage has had a definition for thousands of years, on all populated continents, across all languistic, cultural, and religious barriers.

Now, in the past several decades, a tiny demographic steps up the plate and demands that "marriage" include them. The salient question is: Do we set aside established definitions for whimsical purposes? The answer from a thousand years of British common law (incorporated wholesale into American common law by the founding forefathers) is No! We absolutely do not toss aside well-defined terms in common law for ANY reason. We never have. Rather, it's the law that adjusts to the plain meanings of words, not the other way around.

You might find this interesting. It's a 2010 FOX interview with Ted Olsen after California's law banning same-sex marriage was declared unconstitutional. Ted Olsen is a leading conservative lawyer, served as Assistant Attorney General from '81-'84, argued Bush vs. Gore before the Supreme Court in '00, and served as Solicitor General under George W. Bush. The interview sticks to the legal issues and the Constitution as they relate to this issue.

Ted Olson's arguments assume that there is no reason to adopt the plain meaning of a word as it exists in society, the dictionary, and in hundreds of years of common law.

I do not make that assumption.

I understood your point. (you stated it quite clearly)
I didn't post this interview in response to anything you wrote. I just thought you might find some of the other legal issues interesting.

Ok, thank you. Olson's arguments are about as good as they get in favor of gay marriage.

So you're going to let certain people be oppressed? It's called "change". It's not going to hurt anybody. We used to not be able to marry outside our race... That changed.

It's not a necessary change. The gay community can and should adopt a legal term created to accommodate and define gay marriage. The term is spoken for. And there are gays who agree with me. Surely you will not argue there are gays who want to oppress gays?

hahaha. I made that arguement with someone who asked the question "do you think gays should be allowed to marry". My point was "Marriage was envoked before christanity arose". It was for civility: to create names, created families, to basically to try to act more 'humane'. Marriage is an evolution above the cave days.

But they always being in the 'god' issue and say that is is about Adam & Eve. However, there is no marriage in Genesis

they also tend to forget that Adam was Married to Lilith before Eve and got no Divorce

if you want to know about Lilith I will explain you know me mr Walking Encyclopedia

I did not know about Lilith.. please explain.

Thanks for your knowledge as usually.
You are amazing

As a Teacher of Truth ( Pagan Minister ) my job is to Educate others on the Truth
but not Tell them what to believe simply Provide Truth and Evidence and let them decide for themselves

Education and knowledge are what will send mankind forward in his evolution to reach the stars

the Pagan Version of the Adam and Eve story is the Sumerian Adan and Evo story

Adan means Atom Evo means Evo Genesis the Sumerian word for Evolution
the Story talks about the Gods Creating mankind from the Atom and Evolution



(Genesis 1:26) The [Elohim] said, "Let us make humanity in our own image, in the likeness of ourselves, and let them be masters of the fish of the sea, the birds of heaven, the cattle, all the wild beasts and all the reptiles that crawl upon the earth." Elohim is a plural word, including male and female, and should properly be translated "Gods" or "Pantheon." (1: 27) The Gods created humanity in the image of themselves, In the image of the Gods they created them, Male and female they created them.

Elohim means GODS and Goddess

continued here more about
the legend of the people of Nod
http://paganafterlifeandsalva...

*nod, nod. They were just...together.

Governments do not own marriage either but they still insist they do.

No one owns marriage that's why no one should say who can or can not marry.... Ahem... Christians...

Pagans invented marriage centuries before Christianity.