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He was once a staunch defender of the church,What changed him into a monster who beheaded wives?

Sister Jean 2012/08/21 16:48:45
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  • dick 2012/08/21 17:59:16
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    I believe that he was a Christian when it was convenient and a monster when it wasn't! henry the eighth

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  • Alexander T Steward 2012/08/31 14:23:46
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    If you spilt something on the floor you'd clean up the mess wouldn't you? That was the mentality of the British Monarchy in regards to failed marridges back then.
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  • Sister ... 3003573 2012/08/27 16:07:54
    Sister Jean
    dead wives
  • 3003573 Sister ... 2012/08/27 16:09:05
  • Sister ... 3003573 2012/08/27 16:10:02
    Sister Jean
    looking for a block??
  • 3003573 Sister ... 2012/08/27 16:12:18
  • moomoof 2012/08/27 03:58:43
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    Lack of knowing that he was at fault for not getting a son xD the irony is so .....funny yet sad for the women that died

    But he did give us Elizabeth the first something good came out of it
  • Queen Katherine 2012/08/27 03:48:12 (edited)
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    There are several theories as to why Henry VIII changed From the glorious golden king at the start of his reign to the monster that history remembers him as. One of the most dominate reasons is Henry's need for a legitimate male heir. After his wife suffered several miscarriages and having only one child that survived infancy that was a daughter Henry realized his wife at the time, Katherine of Aragon would probably never be able to give him a living son. So long story short he had himself created head of the Church of England to divorce Katherine and marry Anne Boleyn. So in that he basically had absolute power over church and state, and as the saying goes "Absolute power corrupts absolutely"
  • Butch 2012/08/22 19:35:45
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    Bath salts.
  • cjd 2012/08/22 02:19:45
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  • niki 2012/08/21 23:41:40
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    He wasn't granted an annulment and once he found out about the wealth of the Catholic Church in England that would be his, he changed his mind. It also had something to do with primogeniture and the English throne.
  • Chokmah 2012/08/21 22:07:17
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    Henry was a syphlitic monster, a psychopath who loved to torture and torment others... this creep was the founder and Head of the Church of England.
  • susan BN-0 2012/08/21 22:02:27
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    Lust
  • Burning Bright Embers 2012/08/21 21:40:58
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    The church refused to give him his divorces, he wanted what the country would consider a ligitimate male heir to the throne. Without a divorce, any heir by any woman other than his ligitiment wife would have been denied the throne.
  • Biki 2012/08/21 20:31:41
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    a typical leader who warped things to suit his own agenda. He needed that male heir and he thought he couldn't afford to waste much time on any woman who couldn't give him what he needed. I do believe that one of his wives (the first one?? Can't remember) did give him a son, but he was sickly and died. I've never looked in to his history because he was such a monster. Not sure what was up with his daughter Elizabeth either, why was she so set on not marrying at all to continue the line? She had to have been raised with that sense of duty. She was so power hungry herself that she was unwilling to marry and have someone else have any power over her or her country.
    She left the country to dwindle in to a state of chaos upon her death.
  • Jdogg 2012/08/21 19:17:55
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    Is it possible that non of his wives could give him a son?
  • lolo 2012/08/21 18:38:38
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    I think it was because he couldn't divorce his wives because divorce was not accepted by the church so he just killed them.
  • Sister ... lolo 2012/08/21 19:17:50
    Sister Jean
    half rght
  • rand 2012/08/21 18:05:38
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    ...it was the same Machiavellian approach to life that had him defending the church in the first place. He didn't change; he just became more corrupt in recognizing his "absolute" power.
  • Sister ... rand 2012/08/21 18:09:03
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    and he died a miserable death Karma
  • dick 2012/08/21 17:59:16
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    I believe that he was a Christian when it was convenient and a monster when it wasn't! henry the eighth
  • Sister ... dick 2012/08/21 18:02:40
    Sister Jean
    good way to put it
  • NightWish1976 2012/08/21 17:58:16
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    Syphilis drove him mad
  • Veritas 2012/08/21 17:44:27
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    LUST. He wanted to find a loophole in the Bible.
  • Huki68 2012/08/21 17:20:07
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    Depression, not known them what that really was, called blue days
  • Jackie G - Poker Playing Pa... 2012/08/21 17:18:10
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    Lust - nothing more
  • Sister ... Jackie ... 2012/08/21 17:35:00
  • Jimbo 2012/08/21 17:12:00
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    Divorce...I think
  • skroehr 2012/08/21 17:10:22
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    Leaving the Church, and forming his own, making himself essentially his own pope. He no longer fell under submission or humility to anyone at all. His power became absolute over both Christianity in Britain, and the Government. Never a good idea. It didn't work well when both the Government and Church were all in Rome either. But anyway, absolute power corrupts absolutely. He probably felt both governmentally and religiously justified in all of his actions even though to any observer, he had gone quite mad by the time he was shortening wives.
  • David 2012/08/21 17:09:50
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    I don't believe that he was ever really a staunch defender of the church, like Romney Henry did what ever was necessary to get what he wanted!

    The Pope refused to give a divorce so he broke away and set up the Anglican Church and granted himself one!

    Henry and his women all centred around his desire to produce a male heir to secure the succession!
  • Sister ... David 2012/08/21 17:35:51
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    He was as a young man.
  • David Sister ... 2012/08/21 17:39:13
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    We are all young women and men at the some time sister!

    So it okay to remove ones wife's head if we are young?
  • TasselLady 2012/08/21 17:05:51
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    For a few reasons:

    1. He was psychopath who held no value over human life unless it suited HIS purposes.
    2. The Catholic Church during that time period (and still some do it today), refused to grant a divorce even IF there was a good reason, like adultery or a believer yoked with a non-believer. It would have forced him into an annullment which is not easy to get through the Catholic Church.
    3. Since he couldn't outright murder his wives by his direct own hands, he made up excuses and accused his wives of doing things to try to justify his executing them.
    4. He wanted a male heir. When the male heirs never came, his sick twisted mind decided to murder his wives and then put other future wives under the same dark cloud. You would have though the future wives would have learned that BEFORE they married him. But then maybe they were forced to marry him. He could have very well threatened them if they didn't.

    If he started out a nice guy he eventually turned into a very evil, sick and twisted one.
  • Sister ... TasselLady 2012/08/21 17:36:22
  • TasselLady Sister ... 2012/08/21 18:03:27
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    I'm glad he didn't have any male heirs. Good chance they would have turned out to be another HIM. That scares me!
  • Platinum Fangs 2012/08/21 17:04:48
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    He believed god told him to do it.
  • w2xad 2012/08/21 17:01:01
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    syphilis
  • JMCC 2012/08/21 16:55:01
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    Hemophilia and politics.

    He was unable to bear sons because hemophilia ran in the Royal bloodlines of that time and there were many countries that wanted to expand their realms by taking a kingdom from a King with no heir.
  • me being me 2012/08/21 16:50:21
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    Male PMS?
  • Sister ... me bein... 2012/08/21 16:51:11
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    +2
    was this in FUN category?

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