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Have you read European history and is it relevent to America?

bobby 2012/07/02 00:57:16
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  • DavidSullivan 2012/07/03 13:57:37
    Yes and it is......
    DavidSullivan
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    It is relevant in the idea that we should learn from their mistakes not repeat them as we most surely are...
  • irish -liberty or death! 2012/07/03 13:52:04
    No and it is......
    irish -liberty or death!
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    more like roman history is relevant to america. we are following the same path. decline  and fall of roman  empire
  • oros 2012/07/03 13:48:17
    Yes and it is......
    oros
    +1
    History holds all the lessons, no matter where it happened in the world, we just think "we" and it will be different this time, working well not so.
    See the decline of any Civilisation the symptoms, indications and causes are the same and relevant to all.
  • mrdog 2012/07/02 09:50:52
    Yes and it is......
    mrdog
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    But history of the south is more important...bark
  • David William 2012/07/02 07:38:41
    No and it is......
    David William
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    I don't know anything but vague things from school, but it is where the puritans escaped from. Fun fact, they weren't leaving because they were persecuted in the dawning of a more secular age. They were leaving because their ability TO persecute was being muted.
  • bobby David W... 2012/07/02 12:51:26
    bobby
    Yes indeed,
    "They [the Pilgrim Fathers] believed in freedom of thought for themselves and for all other people who believed exactly as they did" - William Cuppy.
  • bobby David W... 2012/07/02 12:56:12
    bobby
    They were not tolerant types.
  • Kanaka Rican - Now's the ti... 2012/07/02 03:56:20
    Yes and it is......
    Kanaka Rican - Now's the time for ACTION
    +1
    It's all tied together....history repeats itself....it's happening right now!
  • bobby Kanaka ... 2012/07/02 12:53:34
    bobby
    This history, there is just no stopping it.
  • Nam Era Vet #1 DNA TLC 2012/07/02 03:34:05
    Yes and it is......
    Nam Era Vet #1 DNA TLC
    +1
    Shureee. It's the history of the invaders. LOL Joking. I'm Cherokee. :-)
  • Jeff Vader 2012/07/02 02:49:49
    Yes and it is......
    Jeff Vader
    +1
    In as much as the history of America itself is inexorably linked to the history of Europe. American history cannot be fully understood devoid of the essential part that Europe played in that history.

    From it's earliest days of Europe settlement, then independence, and in the influx of European settlers during the massive migrations to America all played a part in the formation of America itself. These migrations which spanned the 18th and 19th centuries due mostly to war and poverty in Europe were formative. They shaped American opinion and it's political system. The need for a new political system, different than the one that existed in Europe at the time.
  • bobby Jeff Vader 2012/07/02 12:58:55
    bobby
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    How do think the politics compare now, say between 18c America and modern Europe,or, between 18c Europe and modern America?
  • Jeff Vader bobby 2012/07/02 16:30:06 (edited)
    Jeff Vader
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    Modern Europe has evolved from what was in the the 18th century still intrinsically an undemocratic archaic hotch-potch of ancient kingdoms, duchies, and principalities. Into what is today a more or less centralist group of progressive governments. At least in the case of the democratic west after the second world war.

    America lead the way democratically for some considerable time, but America has never quite kept up with the times, or adapted at the same pace as other democracies have. It has, IMHO, been somewhat hobbled by it's what I would characterize as inflexible constitution and some might say overly adversarial type of government.

    America has a political system to which it appears that party loyalty plays a more important part in it's politics than negotiated consensus for the good of the whole. This is partly true of European governments as well, but not nearly to the same extent as in America. You only need to view the posts in the News and Politics section on SH to see that America today is a deeply divided nation.
  • bobby Jeff Vader 2012/07/02 19:23:28
    bobby
    +1
    I agree, thanks for the well thought out reply.
  • Linkums 2012/07/02 02:24:31
    No and it is......
    Linkums
    +1
    I probably did learn some at one point, but I'm horrible at remembering history for some reason.
    But yes, I think pretty much all history is relevant to all countries.
  • themadhare ~IJM 2012/07/02 02:15:44
    Yes and it is......
    themadhare ~IJM
    +1
    it's all world history
  • Vision of Verve 2012/07/02 02:14:25
  • Jbug799 2012/07/02 01:24:41
    Yes and it is......
    Jbug799
    +1
    and Yes it does!
  • NPC 2012/07/02 01:10:14
    Undecided
    NPC
    +1
    The United States came about because King George of England tried to be the King of America. The TEA Party, Paul Revere's ride and Concord The Shot Heard Round the World are very famous in American History. The Revolutionary War Victory or Give Me Death in America toppled the Brtitsh Monarchy and changed the entire World forever. July 4th is a celebration of the Declaration of Independence.
  • bobby NPC 2012/07/02 01:28:01
    bobby
    I'm not arguing. But I meant European history independent of America as well.
  • I. Car Rus 2012/07/02 01:07:12
    Yes and it is......
    I. Car Rus
    +1
    Pretty broad topic. Couldn't tell you much about the kings and potentates of the Balkans, but I've read a good deal of English, French, German, Russian history. Is it relevant to America, not sure in what sense you mean. But, in understanding how we got where we are today I would say: yes.
  • bobby I. Car Rus 2012/07/02 01:25:15
    bobby
    I sort of left it a bit vague on purpose, but then you zoomed straight in on that as a weakness. What can I say? Then you saved it at the end.
    I would like not just pre American European history to be considered but all, right up to the second world war and since.
  • Sister Jean 2012/07/02 01:00:38
    Yes and it is......
    Sister Jean
  • bobby Sister ... 2012/07/02 01:03:59
    bobby
    +1
    Thank you.

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