... When did I ever say that? I said I read the bible when I'm discussing the bible. If I didn't read the bible when I'm discussing it, how would I know what I was talking about?
I never mentioned at any time in that post that I used the bible to validate the bible.
Actually, the bible is not its own enemy, the people trying to pretend it's an historical account are their own worst enemies.
The bible was originally written as fiction, a Christian spin on Homer's Odyssey. Believers made it into a holy book, which was their first big mistake.
I have read the KJV. Know Jesus who is God who gives all good things from above not persecuting anyone. I have a lot to say, even more than this.
Know that the devil is the accuser.;Have anyone say anything bad against God ,and ether they will have Satan in them saying it or they will be repealed from Satan thinking it is God in religoins not representing Jesus in his character. Anyone who knows Jesus knows that Jesus would not attack anyone. Anyone who thinks so automatically is a servant of the devil being an accuser. God is the saver the requester. He looks to see who are loving like he is, and saves therm./ If he had not done that there would be no life at all. Jesus could have exacted revenge that was complete because he is God, but he did not. Had a fallen person have such power he would have used it. History tells us that. God is good, and loving beyond compare.
The people wanting worse are the people outside lots house. Genesis 19: 9, now will we deal worse with thee, than with them,The people against the Pedo, zoo, gay, people growing pot, baseball payers who put what they want in their body, and against whoever in the legal sytem are acting like the oppressive sodomites, and the religions that wanted to do worse to Jesus, and Lazarus dead. Mark 14:1:9 KJV, John, ...
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I have read the KJV. Know Jesus who is God who gives all good things from above not persecuting anyone. I have a lot to say, even more than this.
Know that the devil is the accuser.;Have anyone say anything bad against God ,and ether they will have Satan in them saying it or they will be repealed from Satan thinking it is God in religoins not representing Jesus in his character. Anyone who knows Jesus knows that Jesus would not attack anyone. Anyone who thinks so automatically is a servant of the devil being an accuser. God is the saver the requester. He looks to see who are loving like he is, and saves therm./ If he had not done that there would be no life at all. Jesus could have exacted revenge that was complete because he is God, but he did not. Had a fallen person have such power he would have used it. History tells us that. God is good, and loving beyond compare.
The people wanting worse are the people outside lots house. Genesis 19: 9, now will we deal worse with thee, than with them,The people against the Pedo, zoo, gay, people growing pot, baseball payers who put what they want in their body, and against whoever in the legal sytem are acting like the oppressive sodomites, and the religions that wanted to do worse to Jesus, and Lazarus dead. Mark 14:1:9 KJV, John, 12:10.
Hell is Gods light seen to the human that kills or hates not being like Jesus is like it was fire. KJV 1 John 1;5, God is light. Heb; 12:29; God is a consuming fire. James 1:17, Father of lights, Hell is the glorified face of God Moses could not look at or become ashes. That light makes the earth to have no more sea making the elements melt, and consumes the wicked around the city of God rev, 20. Hell is not a place. No lost no lake of fire. Gods light is good to those that love to do good.
Wicked are burned up. No one will be traversing back, and forth to, and from the city of God through fire seeing burning bodies or hearing agonizing screams all through eternity around the city of God. People have been bamboozled by devils in humans for a long time. Heaven,and hell is not life- life. It is eternal life or eternal death.
Satan is not what is depicted in religions either. The devil is the master of confusion the father of lies. Showing up like he is depicted will fool no one. Satan can look like God in his shining glory not having the rich loving Character of Jesus.
The coming of Jesus is not property depicted in any video. Anyone who knows this will not believe anyone saying I am Christ.
Isaiah 13 9Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, cruel both with wrath and fierce anger, to lay the land desolate: and he shall destroy the sinners thereof out of it.
10For the stars of heaven and the constellations thereof shall not give their light: the sun shall be darkened in his going forth, and the moon shall not cause her light to shine.
Isaiah 40 >>4Every valley shall be exalted, and every mountain and hill shall be made low: and the crooked shall be made straight, and the rough places plain:
King James Version
Matthew 24 >> 31And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
King James Version
2 Peter 3:10 >10But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
Revelation 6 > 14And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places. 15And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; 16And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: 17For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?
King James Version.
The wrath is the brilliant light the wicked see as Gods wrath. T Hose that give fire now doing bad to people will see Gods light as wrath.
People are beasts to God. KJV.Ecc18-20that God might manifest them, and that they might see that they themselves are beasts. For that which befalleth the sons of men befalleth beasts; even one thing befalleth them: as the one dieth, so dieth the other; yea, they have all one breath; so that a man hath no preeminence above a beast: Manifest is to leave no doubt. No permanence is being no better than.
People make themselves vulnerable to Gods light putting on the garment of hate wanting to do bad will see Gods face as hell. KJV: 1 John 1,5, God is light. Heb: 12:29, God is a consuming fire. James 1,17, Father of lights, Gods glorified face Moses could not look at. That light makes the earth to have no more sea making the elements melt, and consumes the wicked around the city of God Rev: 20. Hell is not a place. No lost no lake of fire. Gods light is good to those that love to do good.
Abomination, perversion, and defiled are not what religions say either year in, and year out. i am here to show you your error. Change to save your soul teaching others.
Perversion in not any kind of sex. Prov 17 :23A wicked man taketh a gift out of the bosom to pervert the ways of judgment. Pro 15 4A wholesome tongue is a tree of life: but perverseness therein is a breach in the spirit. Pro 19 1Better is The poor that walketh in his integrity, than he that is perverse in his lips,and is a fool, Pro 4 24,Put away from thee a froward mouth, and perverse lips put far from thee
KJV, Proverbs 3, 32For the froward is abomination to the LORD,not gay sex sex with other species or sex when the age spread is wide.
Pro 12; 22Lying lips are abomination
Proverbs 20 :10Divers weights, and divers measures, both of them are alike abomination to the LORD .
looky here 7 more things that are abominable to the lord. Not a one of them is any kind of sex.
KJV, Pro; 6;16 These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren,
Hebrews 12:15; Looking diligently lest any man fail of the grace of God; lest any root of bitterness springing up trouble you, and thereby many be defiled. A bitter person will have bitter words.
Matthew 15 >> 11Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man. King James Version
Mark 7 >> 15There is nothing from without a man, that entering into him can defile him: but the things which come out of him, those are they that defile the man. King James Version.
10; things that are abominable, not one of them is connected to any sexual activity.
4; that are perverse, Not a one of them connected to any kind of sex.
3; that are defile. Again no a one connected to evil accusations.
All of the words used against naked people, and the sexualities are not what religions claim.
Just finished a book by a religious scholar that proclaims that the bible is 10 percent fact and 90 percent fiction.... The inventers of the religious movememt (constitine) around 325 CE need a bit of fact added to the fiction to make it more palletable to the gullible...
My research shows about 10% fact, but to be fair, that percentage is growing a bit as more things are discovered. Perhaps this is balanced by what seems the overstated claims of conquest by the Hebrews in Canaan. Exhaustive research, where and when permitted, has shown no evidence at all of conflict with Joshua or anyone else leading the charge. Looks like anyone that escaped enslavement in Egypt merely settled and blended in gradually. The walls of Jericho may have fallen, but not for the reason the bible claims.
Was there an exodus at all? Maybe a few escaped over time and went home, but not the exodus of biblical proportion. If it sounds too good to be true, well; you know.....
According to science, archeologists, there is no evidence of a Mass exodus,, No 1,, the Jews were not slaes of the egyptians, so why should they leave?
The reality is that there is no evidence whatsoever that the Jews were ever enslaved in Egypt. Yes, there's the story contained within the bible itself, but that's not a remotely historically admissible source. I'm talking about real proof; archeological evidence, state records and primary sources. Of these, nothing exists.
It is hard to believe that 600,000 families (which would mean about two million people) crossed the entire Sinai without leaving one shard of pottery (the archeologist's best friend) with Hebrew writing on it.
The Egyptians certainly brought captives home to work. The economy back then was slave based and if your country lost a war, off you went to work for the victor. That practice was accepted back then as "normal". There were certainly small slave rebellions but the first one on a large scale that DID take place was when Kirk Douglas and Tony Curtis stuck it to Rome.
Gotta go. Billy, our doctor, removed part of my large intestine last week and the dressing looks rather , well; yucky. Take care. Can't get an infection here.....
A lot of people in Egypt were slaves. Some of them came originally from Egypt - often children sold into slavery by poor families. Others were sold from other countries into slavery in Egypt. A lot of people from Meroe and Kush, south of Egypt, were slaves in Egypt, and a lot of people from Libya.
Yes I have read some of it and that is why I am an atheist. I mean when I was a christian I figgured that I would try and go by exactly what the bible says but when I was reading some of Leviticus and Exodus I realised that I could not go by what the bible says without going to prison or ending up in a mentall hospital. I mean I realised that I would have to stone people who worked on the sabath if I was to go by exactly what the bible says but I could not do that without going to prison. After reading the bible I also realised just how little it made sense and that I would have to deny certain scientific facts such as evolution in order to go by it. I also did not like the part of the people who were not in the book of life being thrown into the lake of fire. When I read the part about how not all people who call themselves christians are true christians I was afraid that I could be one of those people and potentially thrown into the lake of fire for not being a true believer. Eventually I realised that the bible was far too irrational and that the bible was not helping me but harming me. I realised that the bible was making me less moral not more and that I was acting morally to spite the bible and not because of the bible. I realised that the only option was to become an atheist. Read the bible and you will soon be an atheist.
Did those brain chemicals cause that illusion in your head?
Explain how radically complex interdependent integrated systems aimed towards a third purpose design utility self-ordered and assembled via natural selection? Belief that Natural Selection explains intelligent human life is irrational. Belief that chemical causation = Free-will is irrational. Belief in a physical Universe that began to exist with no causal agency is irrational. Belief in morality with no objective basis for moral reality is irrational.
Belief that No God exists because you have trouble with a specific narrative is irrational.
I read books on sciences and I became a theist! Oh the irony! Actually, if you had read it correctly none of what you write here would've actually happened. The problem is that you know nothing about ancient Hebrew literature, which was very heavy on allegory and figurative language, and you read it as a completely literal translation without doing any exegesis on the passages. Not that I blame you. You weren't the first Christian to do that and you certainly won't be the last.
It's a good work of literature. Has some good messages in there, some bad ones. It's a decent read. I never believed most of its faith-based messages, though the ones that have nothing to do with faith are pretty nice, like treating all people equal, not to mistreat those different than you, helping those in their times of need, those kinds of things.
haha! i know right? thats why i never decided to read it because my big sister read it once and she said she just about puked after reading it! lmao! XD
I never mentioned at any time in that post that I used the bible to validate the bible.
Brownie?
The bible was originally written as fiction, a Christian spin on Homer's Odyssey. Believers made it into a holy book, which was their first big mistake.
Know that the devil is the accuser.;Have anyone say anything bad against God ,and ether they will have Satan in them saying it or they will be repealed from Satan thinking it is God in religoins not representing Jesus in his character. Anyone who knows Jesus knows that Jesus would not attack anyone. Anyone who thinks so automatically is a servant of the devil being an accuser.
God is the saver the requester. He looks to see who are loving like he is, and saves therm./ If he had not done that there would be no life at all. Jesus could have exacted revenge that was complete because he is God, but he did not. Had a fallen person have such power he would have used it. History tells us that. God is good, and loving beyond compare.
The people wanting worse are the people outside lots house.
Genesis 19: 9, now will we deal worse with thee, than with them,The people against the Pedo, zoo, gay, people growing pot, baseball payers who put what they want in their body, and against whoever in the legal sytem are acting like the oppressive sodomites, and the religions that wanted to do worse to Jesus, and Lazarus dead.
Mark 14:1:9 KJV, John, ...
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Know that the devil is the accuser.;Have anyone say anything bad against God ,and ether they will have Satan in them saying it or they will be repealed from Satan thinking it is God in religoins not representing Jesus in his character. Anyone who knows Jesus knows that Jesus would not attack anyone. Anyone who thinks so automatically is a servant of the devil being an accuser.
God is the saver the requester. He looks to see who are loving like he is, and saves therm./ If he had not done that there would be no life at all. Jesus could have exacted revenge that was complete because he is God, but he did not. Had a fallen person have such power he would have used it. History tells us that. God is good, and loving beyond compare.
The people wanting worse are the people outside lots house.
Genesis 19: 9, now will we deal worse with thee, than with them,The people against the Pedo, zoo, gay, people growing pot, baseball payers who put what they want in their body, and against whoever in the legal sytem are acting like the oppressive sodomites, and the religions that wanted to do worse to Jesus, and Lazarus dead.
Mark 14:1:9 KJV, John, 12:10.
Hell is Gods light seen to the human that kills or hates not being like Jesus is like it was fire. KJV 1 John 1;5, God is light. Heb; 12:29; God is a consuming fire. James 1:17, Father of lights, Hell is the glorified face of God Moses could not look at or become ashes. That light makes the earth to have no more sea making the elements melt, and consumes the wicked around the city of God rev, 20. Hell is not a place. No lost no lake of fire. Gods light is good to those that love to do good.
Wicked are burned up. No one will be traversing back, and forth to, and from the city of God through fire seeing burning bodies or hearing agonizing screams all through eternity around the city of God. People have been bamboozled by devils in humans for a long time. Heaven,and hell is not life- life. It is eternal life or eternal death.
Satan is not what is depicted in religions either. The devil is the master of confusion the father of lies. Showing up like he is depicted will fool no one. Satan can look like God in his shining glory not having the rich loving Character of Jesus.
The coming of Jesus is not property depicted in any video. Anyone who knows this will not believe anyone saying I am Christ.
Isaiah 13 9Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, cruel both with wrath and fierce anger, to lay the land desolate: and he shall destroy the sinners thereof out of it.
10For the stars of heaven and the constellations thereof shall not give their light: the sun shall be darkened in his going forth, and the moon shall not cause her light to shine.
Isaiah 40 >>4Every valley shall be exalted, and every mountain and hill shall be made low: and the crooked shall be made straight, and the rough places plain:
King James Version
Matthew 24 >> 31And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
King James Version
2 Peter 3:10 >10But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
Revelation 6 > 14And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places. 15And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; 16And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: 17For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?
King James Version.
The wrath is the brilliant light the wicked see as Gods wrath. T Hose that give fire now doing bad to people will see Gods light as wrath.
People are beasts to God. KJV.Ecc18-20that God might manifest them, and that they might see that they themselves are beasts. For that which befalleth the sons of men befalleth beasts; even one thing befalleth them: as the one dieth, so dieth the other; yea, they have all one breath; so that a man hath no preeminence above a beast: Manifest is to leave no doubt. No permanence is being no better than.
People make themselves vulnerable to Gods light putting on the garment of hate wanting to do bad will see Gods face as hell. KJV: 1 John 1,5, God is light. Heb: 12:29, God is a consuming fire. James 1,17, Father of lights, Gods glorified face Moses could not look at. That light makes the earth to have no more sea making the elements melt, and consumes the wicked around the city of God Rev: 20. Hell is not a place. No lost no lake of fire. Gods light is good to those that love to do good.
Abomination, perversion, and defiled are not what religions say either year in, and year out. i am here to show you your error. Change to save your soul teaching others.
Perversion in not any kind of sex. Prov 17 :23A wicked man taketh a gift out of the bosom to pervert the ways of judgment. Pro 15 4A wholesome tongue is a tree of life: but perverseness therein is a breach in the spirit. Pro 19 1Better is The poor that walketh in his integrity, than he that is perverse in his lips,and is a fool, Pro 4 24,Put away from thee a froward mouth, and perverse lips put far from thee
KJV, Proverbs 3, 32For the froward is abomination to the LORD,not gay sex sex with other species or sex when the age spread is wide.
Pro 12; 22Lying lips are abomination
Proverbs 20 :10Divers weights, and divers measures, both of them are alike abomination to the LORD .
looky here 7 more things that are abominable to the lord. Not a one of them is any kind of sex.
KJV, Pro; 6;16 These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren,
Hebrews 12:15; Looking diligently lest any man fail of the grace of God; lest any root of bitterness springing up trouble you, and thereby many be defiled.
A bitter person will have bitter words.
Matthew 15 >> 11Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man.
King James Version
Mark 7 >> 15There is nothing from without a man, that entering into him can defile him: but the things which come out of him, those are they that defile the man.
King James Version.
10; things that are abominable, not one of them is connected to any sexual activity.
4; that are perverse, Not a one of them connected to any kind of sex.
3; that are defile. Again no a one connected to evil accusations.
All of the words used against naked people, and the sexualities are not what religions claim.
Was there an exodus at all? Maybe a few escaped over time and went home, but not the exodus of biblical proportion. If it sounds too good to be true, well; you know.....
The reality is that there is no evidence whatsoever that the Jews were ever enslaved in Egypt. Yes, there's the story contained within the bible itself, but that's not a remotely historically admissible source. I'm talking about real proof; archeological evidence, state records and primary sources. Of these, nothing exists.
It is hard to believe that 600,000 families (which would mean about two million people) crossed the entire Sinai without leaving one shard of pottery (the archeologist's best friend) with Hebrew writing on it.
Gotta go. Billy, our doctor, removed part of my large intestine last week and the dressing looks rather , well; yucky. Take care. Can't get an infection here.....
Explain how radically complex interdependent integrated systems aimed towards a third purpose design utility self-ordered and assembled via natural selection? Belief that Natural Selection explains intelligent human life is irrational. Belief that chemical causation = Free-will is irrational. Belief in a physical Universe that began to exist with no causal agency is irrational. Belief in morality with no objective basis for moral reality is irrational.
Belief that No God exists because you have trouble with a specific narrative is irrational.