Has suicide ever been the solution?

by †♫ Muzikfreak ♪† Posted 2012/09/14 04:28:15

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	No.	71 votes	63%
	Yes. (Yet I'm alive)	11 votes	10%
	For some (Please explain)	30 votes	27%

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Muskoka to Rust 2012/09/14 05:37:27

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People have the right to self determination and control over their own life.

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The_Red-fox 2012/09/14 04:47:40

For some (Please explain)

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its better than murdering them

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Jorge Enriquez 2012/09/14 04:39:42

No.

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For what?
"I think suicide is sort of like cancer was 50 years ago. People don't want to talk about it, they don't want to know about it. People are frightened of it, and they don't understand, when actually these issues are medically treatable"

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Omni to Jorge E... 2012/09/14 06:33:02

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It's only medically treatable if the person in question has a chemical imbalance. Otherwise, the "cure" is dubious, and the only hope is through relating to the person and helping him or her see your side of the world, which doesn't always work.

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Jorge E... to Omni 2012/09/14 06:41:50

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I respect ur answer but im not agree....
im a physician so we´re trained about this kind of person
Take Care!!

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Omni to Jorge E... 2012/09/14 06:43:36

Many people who've seen psychologists have killed themselves. So no, it doesn't always work. This isn't a "I disagree" kind of thing. People kill themselves regardless of their treatment.

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Jorge E... to Omni 2012/09/14 06:44:50

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U said: "Psychologists"..they are not physicians...

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Omni to Jorge E... 2012/09/14 06:46:37 (edited)

Okay, but that still doesn't change my original point. If someone doesn't have a chemical imbalance and still wants to kill themselves, you can only rely on words -- i.e, you take on the roll of a psychologist. And that doesn't always work.

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Jorge E... to Omni 2012/09/14 06:48:22

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mine neither....my opinion its the same....i said: i respect ur point but im not agree...
we both are closed about

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Milady to Omni 2012/09/14 08:37:11

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I'm with you. I've been treated for depression for over 30 years now. If there was a 'cure' I'd have thought someone would have let me in on it by now...

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Muskoka to Jorge E... 2012/09/14 19:03:02

Terminal illness is NOT medically treatable and neither is severe chronic pain that last for decades.

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POWERSHAKER 2012/09/14 04:39:11

No.

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Nope. I told myself I would live this life until God himself took me from it. Only idiots kill themselves. :)

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Muskoka to POWERSH... 2012/09/14 05:42:03

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I would assume that would include war hero's and those who sacrifice their life to save others.

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POWERSH... to Muskoka 2012/09/14 06:40:24

Yep. They're idiots. If they only knew that God will judge them, they would think twice about sacrificing themselves.

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Muskoka to POWERSH... 2012/09/14 23:44:43

The only idiots are those who believe that uneducated ancient herdsmen from the Bronze Age and are willing to base your life on their superstitions with no evidence.

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POWERSH... to Muskoka 2012/09/15 14:36:18 (edited)

All you got to do is look around. In my opinion, the creation shows there's a Creator.

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Cameleon to POWERSH... 2012/09/22 00:53:54

You obviously have no clue what logic is all about.

Trees are evidence that trees exist.
Birds are evidence that gbirds exist
Cats are evidence that cats exist
Rocks are evidence that rocks exist
Water is evidence that water exists
There is no evidence that any gods exist
There is no evidence that there is any creator

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POWERSH... to Cameleon 2012/09/22 16:27:07 (edited)

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Well, by your estimation, there's no evidence that men made that computer you're typing on then, because computers are only evidence that computers exist. The creator or inventor of those computers must not exist in your mind, and nature's constructs are far more superior in invention and creation than your computer. You've lost your mind. Wake up. God created the universe, all its systems and constructs. Stop being absurd. Use your brain and your eyes.

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Cameleon to POWERSH... 2012/09/28 00:46:57 (edited)

Yes, there is evidence that man made my computer as I can go and watch a compter being made if I choose to.

The schematics and drawings are patants are available for anyone to see at the proper agencies. The same is true of all buildings on the planet, there are plans, and constructuction companies and workers who have all been involved in the production of those buildings erected on this earth.

You are ready to believe in superstitions rather than ask the hard questions that you are afraid to ask for fear of shattering you belief system.

There is nothing on this planet or beyond it that point to any gods and never has done.

Ancient man was afraid of everything around him as he did not understand how the planet and universe worked. He tried to explain things in the simplest ways possible. An eclipse of the sun was thought to signal the end of the earth and in order to stop the process they invented gods to try and appease them and startedmaking sacafices to them. Tthe same was done for volcanos and earth quakes and tsunamis and a host of other natual phenomena.

There is absolutely nothing mysterious about gods at all. They were simply invented to answer question for which ancient man had no answer.

That became known as the 'god of the gap' theory and is now a very SMALL gap ...

Yes, there is evidence that man made my computer as I can go and watch a compter being made if I choose to.

The schematics and drawings are patants are available for anyone to see at the proper agencies. The same is true of all buildings on the planet, there are plans, and constructuction companies and workers who have all been involved in the production of those buildings erected on this earth.

You are ready to believe in superstitions rather than ask the hard questions that you are afraid to ask for fear of shattering you belief system.

There is nothing on this planet or beyond it that point to any gods and never has done.

Ancient man was afraid of everything around him as he did not understand how the planet and universe worked. He tried to explain things in the simplest ways possible. An eclipse of the sun was thought to signal the end of the earth and in order to stop the process they invented gods to try and appease them and startedmaking sacafices to them. Tthe same was done for volcanos and earth quakes and tsunamis and a host of other natual phenomena.

There is absolutely nothing mysterious about gods at all. They were simply invented to answer question for which ancient man had no answer.

That became known as the 'god of the gap' theory and is now a very SMALL gap as it is getting smaller and smaller every single minute as science and research has answered enormous numbers of those questions and proven that ancient man was completely ignorant about his surroundings.

Uneducated people like you are following in the exact same path as those prehistoric peoples.
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POWERSH... to Cameleon 2012/09/28 02:03:47 (edited)

Wrong. The creation proves the creator. Someone made us and everything in the universe. If you walk into a room and see a computer sitting on a desk, do you actually assume no one made it? Same goes for the universe, and the universe is more complex than any computer we can make.

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Cameleon to POWERSH... 2012/09/28 02:44:32

There is absolutley no evidence of any creation or any creator.

There is enormous evidence for evolution and absolutely no evidence for creation at all.

You can stick to your delusions and illusions, smoke and mirrors, but the greatest minds on this planet agree with me.

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POWERSH... to Cameleon 2012/09/28 04:42:33 (edited)

Actually, that's not true either. There is no proof for evolution. It is merely a theory based on many different assumptions. It's a total lie. It takes more faith to believe in evolution than it does to believe in God. However, one chooses to put their faith in the ideas of fallible men or they choose to believe in God. Seeing the obvious design in nature and the universe is not a delusion, my friend. It's mere logic and reason. Thomas Paine, Benjamin Franklin and many other great minds believed in God. They may have been Deists, but they believed in a God, because God is evident in what's created. Any reasonable man knows that God exists, and that there must be a first cause for everything.

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†♫ Muzi... to Muskoka 2012/09/22 17:43:56

Sacrificing your life for a better cause is different than suicide.

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Milady to POWERSH... 2012/09/14 09:36:44 (edited)

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I truly hope you are trolling here. How dare you offend people with your senseless ravings on a topic you obviously know nothing about. People with debilitating depression and mental illness often see suicide not only as an answer, but as a relief from their suffering. I wish your stupidity could be painful for you. I hope your god forgives you for your lack of charity. YOU, sir, are the idiot.

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POWERSH... to Milady 2012/09/15 14:36:57

Suicide is never the answer. There must be justice in the universe. Also, God must exist. The creation proves God exists.

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Milady to POWERSH... 2012/09/16 00:28:43 (edited)

I'm not going to change the argument to religion. 'Bye.

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Cameleon to POWERSH... 2012/09/22 00:54:43

There is no proof of creation, so therefore there is no proof of god

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†♫ Muzi... to Cameleon 2012/09/29 20:07:08

Im just gonna throw my opinion out there (Not saying you have to agree, but just hear me out)

If there is absolutely, without a doubt, NO proof that creation was ever to be, is, or ever will be... What do you consider the universe and everything in it?
What do you consider the plants, animals, organisms, water, universe, and everything else tangible here that you can see, feel, touch, smell that you claim is NOT creation? What is it if not creation with a creator?

Do you have proof? A book that's been around for an extremely long period of time that prophecies have and are coming true, or can show that there is no God, no creator, and/or no begging or end?

Please share what information you have, if you will.

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Angel OFire 2012/09/14 04:38:25

For some (Please explain)

For some suicide and ending their own lives has been the soloution for them, yet those left in the wake of this event often find the grieving process one they are unable to deal with, left feeling angry, empty, helpless, and never accepting that it was the choice of the person who committed this act to do so, and they did it, now it is time for those left behind to pick up the pieces of their lives and move forwards.

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Muskoka to Angel O... 2012/09/14 05:39:42 (edited)

that guy was not even trying, that is nothing but attention getting

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Skylie to Muskoka 2012/09/14 07:05:30 (edited)

People modify their bodies for different reasons. Some do it to "get attention", some use it as a coping method, some people even gain sexual pleasure from it. Point being, unless you know that person (and they have explicitly stated the reason why) or you are (or have been) that person yourself (have "walked in their shoes"), you don't know why they do it, and therefore, have no reason to judge.

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Muskoka to Skylie 2012/09/14 19:05:21

Those cuts are not deep enough for a suicide attempt. All you have to do it look at them to see that.

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Skylie to Muskoka 2012/09/15 04:08:38

I know that, but you don't know that they were doing it to "get attention". Like I said, it could have been as some sort of coping method, it could have been to get off, etc. You're not them, so you don't know.

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Htcbm1 2012/09/14 04:38:18 (edited)

No.

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I would have you ask some friends of mine but there "dead"!

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Eddie_says_OrlyTaitez_is_nutz 2012/09/14 04:38:13

No.

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Suicide is never a solution.

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Muskoka to Eddie_s... 2012/09/14 19:05:50

It certainly is if you want to end severe chronic pain.

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Eddie_s... to Muskoka 2012/09/14 19:11:16

Someone who isn't terminally ill, it's suicide.

To someone who is terminally ill... isn't it "Self Termination" or "Death with Dignity" or "Voluntary active euthanasia"? To that end, that's a personal choice and one I could support.

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Cameleon to Eddie_s... 2012/09/22 00:56:41

It is suicide regardless of the situation, that is the definiton of the word.

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Eddie_s... to Cameleon 2012/09/22 04:09:33

I was address the question... you remember the question, don't you?
Has suicide ever been the solution?

And you remember my response... in case you didn't
Someone who isn't terminally ill, it's suicide.

To someone who is terminally ill... isn't it "Self Termination" or "Death with Dignity" or "Voluntary active euthanasia"? To that end, that's a personal choice and one I could support.

http://www.sodahead.com/livin...

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Cameleon to Eddie_s... 2012/09/28 00:52:17

It does not matter what condition you are in. the defintion of suicide is taking your own life. That is what it is.

It appears as though you want to change the definiton of it.

Definition of Suicide

Suicide: The process of purposely ending one's own life

http://www.medterms.com/scrip...

Definition of SUICIDE

1 a: the act or an instance of taking one's own life voluntarily and intentionally especially by a person of years of discretion and of sound mind

http://www.merriam-webster.co...

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