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Has Religion Done More Harm Or Good For Mankind?

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  • Truth Matters 2012/06/10 19:58:53
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    Truth Matters
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    Far more good. Christianity alone delivered Europe from it's brutal, illiterate barbarian Dark Ages. Christianity developed Empiricism and sponsored Science, Arts, Universities, Hospitals, charities, human rights, etc. Those literate monks also preserved the only knowledge of Roman and Greek civilizations. There was none of this outside of the church among the illiterate and brutal barbarian populations.

    Atheism is absolute madness when taken seriously. The track record of modern Atheist leadership has been reliably horrific on a scale unprecedented in history.

    It's a shame that some many are being propagandized to believe religion is the problem.
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  • All American 2012/06/10 23:23:23
    Harm...
    All American
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    I think religion is the greatest impediment to progress that has ever been devised.
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  • Soundstorm All Ame... 2012/06/10 23:35:55
    Soundstorm
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    Aside from all the other philosophies and dominions set up by man.
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  • All Ame... Soundstorm 2012/06/10 23:44:38 (edited)
    All American
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    They call the era from the fall of the Roman empire to the age of Enlightenment the dark ages for a reason; the Church ruled with an iron grip for 1500 years. With the waning of their influence the greatest explosion of knowledge mankind had ever enjoyed began during that time and continues to this day, at least in the Western world. Islamic countries still have a way to go. And you also have regimes like North Korea and Myanmar that hold their people captive and stifle freedom of thought.
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  • Soundstorm All Ame... 2012/06/10 23:55:12
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    They who? "They" whom you never identify don't account for the massing of barbaric pagan tribes into nations of civilized Christians, the reign of Charlemagne, the educational legacy of monasteries and the relative lifting of safety and living standards up to the Renaissance. How do you suppose any of this would have happened without the Church?
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  • All Ame... Soundstorm 2012/06/11 00:01:36
    All American
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    Partly here:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    I guess as long as you were a believer you got along fine, but what about heretics, witches and scientists? So, you saying the church elevated and enlightened the masses?
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  • Soundstorm All Ame... 2012/06/11 01:46:19 (edited)
    Soundstorm
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    So you rely on anonymous Wikipedia sources to make your point? You can take your chances with the witches and pagans if you like. There wouldn't even be any scientists in the centuries following Rome's fall if it weren't for the civilizing influence of Christianity. So easy to place the blame on your target of derision rather than consider the conditions of Europe at that time. You're no fairer in your judgement than the inquisitors you condemn as representatives of Christianity.
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  • All Ame... Soundstorm 2012/06/11 03:11:59
    All American
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    I could find more sources, but I don't think I really need to.

    "There wouldn't even be any scientists in the centuries following Rome's fall if it weren't for the civilizing influence of Christianity."

    Go tell that to Copernicus, Kepler and Galileo.
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  • Soundstorm All Ame... 2012/06/11 03:17:42
    Soundstorm
    The internet's a treasure trove of sources for your ignorant partisan hate mongering if that's all you're into.
    Tell what to Copernicus, Kepler and Galileo? That they would've fared better as scientists among pagans?
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  • All Ame... Soundstorm 2012/06/11 03:23:15
    All American
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    You sound like a liberal with the name calling, so full of hate. The Church hated the aforementioned and even jailed Galileo because his findings were contrary to the Church. It's history, not the Internet you Idiot. Don't be a dumb ass and enlighten yourself. There are other books than the Bible.
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  • Soundstorm All Ame... 2012/06/11 03:35:58
    Soundstorm
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    Galileo was dragged before the Church authorities by rival scientists who were threatened by his prestige. That's some history to enlighten you from your parochial education.
    Scientists who dare to question the fraudulent theories of the global warming establishment are getting the same treatment today.
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  • All Ame... Soundstorm 2012/06/11 03:47:05
    All American
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    Nice spin, Sherlock.
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  • Soundstorm All Ame... 2012/06/11 04:04:34
    Soundstorm
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    Blaming religion for the sins of the fallen is your spin.
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  • Vitalani 2012/06/10 23:22:14
    Harm...
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    No doubt.
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  • Soundstorm Vitalani 2012/06/10 23:55:42
    Soundstorm
    Only to a closed mind.
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  • Vitalani Soundstorm 2012/06/11 00:08:40
    Vitalani
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    That's your opinion and I disagree. Just because someone does not agree with you does not make them narrow minded, CALLING them so due to that fact makes YOU the narrow minded one.

    Now if that's the only response you can muster I suggest you move along.
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  • Soundstorm Vitalani 2012/06/11 01:50:28
    Soundstorm
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    That's only your opinion to my reply to the limited post which was all you apparently could muster. If you're not here to discover opinions and take feedback for your own maybe SodaHead isn't the place for your delicate sensibilities.
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  • Vitalani Soundstorm 2012/06/11 02:06:34
    Vitalani
    No I simply don't have time for you. Or maybe I don't care? You presented no valid argument and so you are not worth a complex reply. Good day.
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  • Soundstorm Vitalani 2012/06/11 02:21:18
    Soundstorm
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    And all you presented was a glib claim that religion has done more harm without offering any explanation yourself. But you don't want to be challenged.
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  • Vitalani Soundstorm 2012/06/11 16:18:17
    Vitalani
    Yes, because I'm on mobile. This is a poll, NOT an open ended question.
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  • Soundstorm Vitalani 2012/06/12 04:50:37
    Soundstorm
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    First time I've heard that excuse. And it doesn't even make any sense.
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  • Vitalani Soundstorm 2012/06/12 06:39:29
    Vitalani
    Not an a excuse. I just don't care enough to type out a paragraph or two to you.
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  • Soundstorm Vitalani 2012/06/12 07:54:36
    Soundstorm
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    But you still care enough to reply. I'm touched.
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  • Vitalani Soundstorm 2012/06/12 08:21:16
    Vitalani
    Yes the notifications are irritating and I have to or else they stay there.
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  • Soundstorm Vitalani 2012/06/12 08:34:13
    Soundstorm
    So you don't want to debate opinions even though that's the whole purpose here on SodaHead?
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  • Vitalani Soundstorm 2012/06/12 08:38:12
    Vitalani
    You speak for the entire SH community? LMFAO. Opinion poll does not equal debate site. Get your facts straight. Like I said, you just keep flapping your jaw but I do not have time right now for some huge debate. I stated what my opinion was on a POLL question, NOT an open ended one. Frankly, you aren't going to change my opinion and sometimes I simply can't take debating with religious nut jobs. They are blind and do not accept facts. They just continue to repeat the same thing over and over....Which is exactly what you are doing.
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  • Soundstorm Vitalani 2012/06/12 08:46:23
    Soundstorm
    I got a paragraph out of you. I think you really have a lot more to say than just "no doubt".
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  • Vitalani Soundstorm 2012/06/12 08:47:35
    Vitalani
    Sometimes.
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  • Soundstorm Vitalani 2012/06/12 08:51:17
    Soundstorm
    But just keep in mind that unfairly labeling people "religious nut jobs" is going to get a reply.
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  • Vitalani Soundstorm 2012/06/12 08:58:13 (edited)
    Vitalani
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    I was was just referring to who I usually get replies from on topics like this, which is why I am reluctant to even get into a debate such as this. I didn't mean you. To me, religious is one thing, but crazy AND religious is another. It's just as bad as being a crazy atheist.
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  • Soundstorm Vitalani 2012/06/12 09:05:30
    Soundstorm
    Fair enough. I have no use for those who are all hot air counterfeiting God's Spirit.
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  • Manuel 2012/06/10 23:13:22
    Hmmm...
    Manuel
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    If ANY religion was doing that good...there would be no use for guns and war...etc....but apparently...it's not...
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  • Soundstorm Manuel 2012/06/10 23:37:21
    Soundstorm
    In the end it's only man that's incapable of doing any good regardless of religion.
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  • Manuel Soundstorm 2012/06/11 01:21:16
    Manuel
    again...If ANY religion was doing that good...there would be no use for guns and war...etc....but apparently...it's not... so who needs religion?....fools do....so they can continue on with guns and war...
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  • Soundstorm Manuel 2012/06/11 02:01:12
    Soundstorm
    Religion doesn't do that good for ALL people. Just those who actually follow it. But it's given a far better outcome in the world compared to your ideal of a world with NO religion in which there will still be guns and war and etc, etc. Who needs religion indeed? Not you hiding behind the protective robes of our Christian established civilization which has given you the luxury to condemn it from behind your keyboard.
    Now if none of this penetrates your thick angry skull just reply with one of your dumb laughing faces.
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  • Manuel Soundstorm 2012/06/11 02:09:34
    Manuel
    if people really followed and did what Jesus said...it would be a great world...but being they say they do and don't...and use guns to justify their faith...I'd say that's all baloney...Jesus is not a religion...but man made him into one to cause wars....
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  • Soundstorm Manuel 2012/06/11 02:34:18
    Soundstorm
    If you don't care to make any effort yourself to follow and do what Jesus said you're no one to complain.
    Nobody uses guns to justify Christ. If there's anybody who uses guns to justify their worldview it's the followers of Chairman Mao's religion. Christ's followers on the other hand did a good job of justifying Him when they were mere amusement for the Roman circuses. But today we're in a position to defend our lives, families and freedom against violent predators. And from this you're also an ungrateful beneficiary.
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  • Manuel Soundstorm 2012/06/11 18:45:30
    Manuel
    I follow Jesus, I don't need to own a gun or defend my family from violent predators....it doesn't matter what evil happens to me or my family in this country....because Jesus promised us a forever future in heaven...So why should I not accept it if my daughter gets raped or my sons get killed by some crazy gun carrying fool like Zimmerman...All this was God's will for me if it happens. I would wait for his judgement to take care of all this evil.


    My heart is not in this world or this Country which is just as evil as any other place here on earth ...that's why I chose the Liberal view which is much more inline with Jesus' thoughts...


    This is how a Christian is to be...anything else makes that person a lair...
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  • Soundstorm Manuel 2012/06/12 04:56:32
    Soundstorm
    You don't need a gun? Are your hands deadly weapons? Or do you have Rosie O'Donnell's bodyguards to defend you and your family? America is probably as evil as anyplace on Earth but maybe you'd be safer in Cuba.
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  • Manuel Soundstorm 2012/06/12 07:23:26
    Manuel
    i don't need a gun and never hit another person in my life...people fight over the whole world.......what's a Christian to do?
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