Group Plans Mars Settlement: Would You Live on Mars?

It implodes and becomes a dwarf if I remember correctly. Now when will that happens? We will take baby steps so you can comprehend this.

Becoming a Dwarf star is one of the two endings. Due to the size of our sun, it is more likely that the other ending will occur. Black hole.

5,000,000 years away and counting. Now, considering the fact that the earth has been around for 6*10^9 years at least, it's a rather small time scale. Not on a personal scale, but on the scale of the life span of humanity.

I think you are missing some zeros. All I have heard is that it will be 5 billion more years. I was going to point out 2 things to you. One it won't happen in humanities life span. The second is that before a star turns into a White Dwarf it becomes a Red Giant. That Red Giant will engulf the solar system. So regardless of whether you are earth or Mars you are pretty much toast.. literally. You may get lucky and not be engulfed by the sun.. But you will still be pretty much toast.

-.- why is it. Every time I research this. The number changes, I had asserted this before in another conversation 5,000,000,000 years but I was handed an academic research paper that stated 5 000,000.... which at that time I could only confirm. Now it's jumped back *curses google* Either way, the point is still valid, even 5*10^9 is still small in the time scale of humankind. Five hours rather than five minutes.

That said, you're right, Mars would be the first stepping stone, our practice ground for terraforming before getting the hell outta dodge into another solar system. Which shouldn't (I'm betting) take us 5 milliard years in order to achieve though we do need to get started asap.

In 5 million years (If the human race lasts that long) We won't be the human race as you and I know. We will be something different. Even if we get the hell out of dodge.. we have the time space stuff to consider and who knows what that will do to our physical structure.. whatever that will be in 5 million years. Traveling out of the solar system now... It is impossible.

Not sure why the 5 mil and the 5 bill or even which one is correct. Yeah it happens to me too.

One thing I will say if this is an argument for NASA to still be funded by tp dollars I am for that. For some rich persons dream to live on mars. I am fully against tp $ being spent.

Besides how about they try terraforming some spots in the mojave desert.

I still submit we need to explore our oceans.

It's to do with the Hydrogen stores in the sun >.<

I also agree with the NASA funding ^-^ the government should not fund private projects.

Uhm...we're working on the Sahara, that good enough for you? http://uk.news.yahoo.com/saha...

Agree...not that there's much down there >.<

Pretty cool about the Sahara Forest Project. I hope they get it right. Looks like it is a huge expense though. Pilot project is low enough.

"not that there's much down there" Our planets history may be down there.

We checked Challengers deep...not much >.<; We did an Infra-red scan....mmm blank... we chased google about squares...turned out to be an clipping quirk with pictures. What we don't know is down there entirely are the different life forms, history we've pretty much covered, but the Giant squids? We have little information on them.

You are right though, there is more to learn ^-^

How and why these creatures adapt at such pressures without light.. could be very valuable in space.

Before the sun implodes it will explode and engulf the entire solar system and everything in it.

yes I know. So if you are on mars.. you will be where?

Read above in my response to Crypt.

You must crawl before you can walk, baby steps remember.

I realize that. Still a whole lot of crap that no one knows about. Time Space. Our bodies needing gravity. How long does it take to traverse the solar system?

We are finding stuff like that out by traveling to mars, tax money well spent.

How? We find out mars is barren. W00t! Chalk one up for NASA!

Look man I am all for tax money being spent on the space program. I am not for it being used to fund someones pleasure of living on mars.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

Physics. It works. =D

Also I believe Voyager 1 is quite close to leaving the solar system ^__^ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... (I'm using wiki because it's quicker).

We can now actually travel faster than Voyager ^-^

I believe it too. I am actually intrigued by what it will find. 35 years to get there. I wonder what 35 years would do to a human in space. No gravity.

That's true, but who says we'll stay on mars and try no further? I plan for Betelgeuse =P there's a few planets we can aim for.

We will explore futher, human nature.

Humanity has been killing each other by the 100,000+ every year, come on the a-bomb is the only way. The fate of humanity does rely on space travel.

Where you gonna travel to?

I would venture to say if humanity does survive past the death of our planet/solar system we will aimlessly travel the universe and deplete any planet we come across of all resources and life. I would venture to say we may even cultivate life on other planets and study them on a regular basis. I would even venture to say we may be that experiment.

Doubt it. If that does happen we won't be human but some other type of organism.

My best guess is the solar system explodes. Chucks of the earth fly out into space and some of earths organism get deposited somewhere. Then we have a 1 and 1 million chance of something surviving. If not oh well. (The 1 and 1 million odds was just put for comparison I have no clue what the % actually is)

Not THAT brave yet... I'll save MY space travel for later... in spiritual form I'll go; in human form I'll keep my arse on Earth and do something just as cool... like help start up that Venus Project they're all up in the air about ;)

there are too many good and beautiful thing on this planet. Why not turn Mars into a penal colony? Send all the violent criminals there? You know, kind of like Western Australia was? They turned out alright, in the end, I'm thinking Mars would too.

Um, i have this teensy problem, I'M SCARED OF HEIGHTS! :-}

No such thing as heights in the infinite vastness of space.

In free fall, there are no perception of heights. You'd do just fine.

It's not the height that's the problem. It's the possibility of something coming very close extremely quickly and the sudden stop that tends to be scary. Of course, falling never killed anyone either... sudden stops tend be a bit of a nuisance though >.<

When in space, you are in continual free fall. Everything is in motion in relation to everything else. In relation to the Earth, which is also moving, revolving on its axis at about 1000 miles /hr, traveling around the Sun at about 67,000 miles/hr, and our solar system moving, and our galaxy moving at tremendous speeds in relation to one another, if you were traveling at say, 20,000 miles an hour in relation to something, you wouldn't even know that you were moving at all.

If you were to suddenly stop in relation to something else, you would never know it either...but it could be a little messy :-)

o.O okay that concept just blew my mind.

Never! I'm afraid of large spaces, I'd faint if I was in space.

Everyone needs a change of pace once in a while .

LIVE... No....

VISIT... Yes...

I think Mars looks the same pretty much every direction you would look, from any location on mars.

If I want to see something like that - I would move the the Sahara Desert, where at least I could breath without special equipment.

I think it would be cool for awhile.

I'd even make a one way trip IF my wife precedes me into the ether. She couldn't handle being away from relatives, but I'm able to take a more Zen view of life.

As long as the bigots and homophobic stay on earth, LOL

Well hell Lets get this started, Earth will start being more awesome once the liberals are gone.

Sorry to inform you; but you are going to get the bigots and homophobic wherever you go.

I think most settlers would be dead within six months of suicide. There's nothing there but dirt.