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Muskoka 2012/08/02 15:21:58
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When on July 17 Paul Zilber went to visit his fiance at Saint Barnabas Behavioral Health Center, in Toms River, New Jersey, his focus was of course on his boyfriend’s well-being. What Paul says he experienced however, was unlawful anti-gay discrimination at the hands of the center’s nursing staff.

Paul’s partner was receiving treatment at Saint Barnabas for mental health issues related to what had appeared to be a suicide attempt. Paul, 20, who was visiting at the same time as his partner’s grandparents, said that everything was fine on the day in question until a conversation with one of the nursing staff turned sour.

“Everything went okay, until a nurse who knew I was [name redacted]‘s boyfriend referred to me as his ‘friend.’ He corrected her and said that I was his partner. She replied with, ‘Oh your partner in crime?’ I said, ‘No, I’m his boyfriend, thank you.’ She then sighed and said ‘Oh… .’ She rolled her eyes, and gave me a thumbs up and walked away.”

Feeling this was inappropriate behavior from the nurse in question, Paul reported the nurse to the relevant staff, whereby he was told that it was “just a joke.” However, when Paul and his partner’s grandparents were preparing to leave for the evening, Paul alleges things turned from bad to worse.

After his partner’s grandparents both hugged and kissed his partner goodbye, Paul went to do the same. He says he was then “cornered” by two nurses who ran across the room to yell at him, “No contact, that is inappropriate.”

Paul maintains that the affection he had shown his partner was entirely appropriate for the setting. He therefore wanted to know why he was being singled out in this way.

“I then asked the nurse why it was okay for everyone else to give hugs and kisses but it was not okay for me?” Paul told Care2 he then gave his partner another kiss goodbye because the first kiss had been interrupted. “She then told another nurse to take me off his list of allowed visitors.” Not knowing how long his partner would be hospitalized for, this was obviously very distressing for Paul. ”I was very upset, and every time I would call a nurse would say, ‘I’m sorry, we have an order that we cannot speak to you, and that he cannot speak to you.’”

Paul says he was told some days later that he would be allowed to visit his partner, but the olive branch was conditional: ”I was then told, ‘He can come back if he promises to be appropriate.’ At that point, I walked out of the hospital,” he said.

Paul told me his partner’s grandparent, who witnessed the incident, also found it distressing, reportedly challenging the nursing staff, “Why are you harassing these two young men?”

Sadly, this was not the only incident of homophobia Paul says had occurred during his partner’s stay at Saint Barnabas. Paul’s partner had previously told him that when it became obvious they were in a gay relationship together, staff had made him feel uneasy as they went about their duties caring for him. Paul also claims that some of the nurses started wearing their wedding bands on different fingers after seeing his partner’s engagement ring. Paul also told Care2 that following his complaint over the alleged harassing behavior, a nurse came up to him and said, “I hope you’re happy, because my job is on the line.”

Paul’s partner, under a reported threat of legal action from his grandparents, was released the day after this incident.

“[He] felt like he had to get out, or he would lose his mind,” Paul said. “He came into the hospital for mental help, and they only made it worse for him. He felt as if he was being judged.”

Last year, the Obama administration issued new guidelines on existing federal anti-discrimination rules, making it explicitly clear that for hospitals and medical facilities running Medicare and Medicaid, it is a violation of federal law to deny access to a same-sex spouse or partner, and that such a denial of rights can cost the hospital its federal funding.

Saint Barnabas, part of the Barnabas Behavioral Health Network, is a JCAHO accredited freestanding 40-bed acute care psychiatric facility that provides inpatient, partial hospitalization and intensive outpatient programs for adults diagnosed with psychiatric and dual disorders. Saint Barnabas participates in both the Medicare and Medicaid programs and if it were proven that the treatment Paul and his partner faced was solely bias-motivated, and that hospital staff did indeed move to bar Paul for no other reason than a same-sex kiss, it would appear that the center would be open to a legal challenge.

Paul, wanting to explore his options regarding fighting what he sees as a clear case of discrimination, is now working with local equality groups. “If this does not get resolved, we will have no choice but to sue for discrimination and harassment. How are you supposed to get help for personal issues when you are surrounded by people who do not accept you for who you are?”

Paul also has a message for other families in the area, saying, “To all LGBT families, do not go to this behavioral center.”

A request for comment from Saint Barnabas has, at the time of publication, gone unanswered


Was the staff wrong to deny visiting privileges??

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  • Shawna 2012/08/02 16:42:44
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    Shawna
    +6
    This is absolutely horrible discrimination and inhumane treatment. I hope the young man gets some appropriate help with his depression and that this hospital faces severe repercussions for the behaviour of its staff.

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  • Eddie 2012/08/21 11:51:26
    No
    Eddie
    No I don't think it's right for them to harrass or deny visitation to the boyfriend or allow their own person views interfere with their professional performance.
  • Anonymouse BN-0 ~bibbityboo~ 2012/08/18 20:05:01
    Yes
    Anonymouse BN-0 ~bibbityboo~
    +1
    It's not fair, but some people are like that. What they should have done is moved him to a different ward and told the nurses to keep their views to themselves. Taking him off the list of visitors was just rude.
  • Muskoka Anonymo... 2012/08/18 20:08:33
    Muskoka
    It's not just rued is is dangerous to his mental condition as well. It could be life threatening.
  • Anonymo... Muskoka 2012/08/18 20:54:45
    Anonymouse BN-0 ~bibbityboo~
    I thought they should have complained that banning him was harming his mental state. And where was the management on this? They're responsible, and they should have told the nurses and doctors to mind their hippocratic oaths and keep their views to themselves.
  • Muskoka Anonymo... 2012/08/20 00:24:10
    Muskoka
    They did, but the kid was released the next day. So it became a non-issue. However, there may be a law suit.
  • Random 2012/08/14 13:57:59 (edited)
    I think
    Random
    +1
    It is deplorable behavior for the Hospital. They are Catholic? My God, so much for doing unto others as you would have done yourselves. An embarrassment to Jesus Christ. If what is alleged is true, then they have basically treated this patient as a lesser being, unworthy of love from his partner.
    Very Christlike indeed -_-
  • ally 2012/08/07 19:11:58 (edited)
    Yes
    ally
    +1
    It's definately discrimination. I hope this man brings action against this hospital.

    For all those who think this is just a liberal gay propaganda lie. It isn't. The only way for gay couples to even be allowed to see their loved ones in a catholic hospital is for the patients to call them "family members". How would you like to address your loving husband or wife of many years as brother or sister?
  • CUDDLY BUT STILL CRABBY 2012/08/07 15:03:50
    I think
    CUDDLY BUT STILL CRABBY
    +1
    Typical of Godless, soulless creatures that aimlessly wander about for the next anonymous sexual encounter with total strangers, the subject of this alleged discrimination is fishing for a BIG monetary payout to make his "story" go away for the health center.

    He is merely steps away from hiring some flamboyant jurist who will be happy to part ways for over 50% of the proceeds.

    Everyone is a victim these days. Queers too.
  • JenSemPa CUDDLY ... 2012/08/07 15:24:16
    JenSemPa
    +1
    This story looks completely bogus.

    I just put "Saint Barnabas Tom's River New Jersey" through a news search -- and absolutely nothing came up.

    I've seen these pro-gay propaganda sites make crap up before. This looks like yet another one of their lies.
  • CUDDLY ... JenSemPa 2012/08/07 15:27:10
    CUDDLY BUT STILL CRABBY
    Similar to that recent story about the lez in Nebraska (I think) that claimed three masked men broke into her home and carved derogatory terms on her body with knives. That certainly disappeared from the news when she started changing her story with the cops.
  • Muskoka JenSemPa 2012/08/08 03:30:02
    Muskoka
    I guess you are unaware of the FACT that most items never read the papers or the news.
  • Muskoka CUDDLY ... 2012/08/08 03:20:11
    Muskoka
    Who ignorant and narrow minded. They were not strangers at all.

    There are also no soulless creatures on this earth either. The only one without a soul and any sense of humanity are people like you who pretend to be christian but are the biggest bigots and full of hatred and ignorance.

    I suggest you go back to the Bronze Age and continue to live in caves with all the other superstitious and uneducated mindless creatures who refuse to accept the diversity that has made this planet what it is.
  • CUDDLY ... Muskoka 2012/08/08 04:14:49
    CUDDLY BUT STILL CRABBY
    A tad angry are we? Too frigging bad.
  • Muskoka CUDDLY ... 2012/08/08 04:23:17
    Muskoka
    Not angry at all. I simply try to educate the ignorant.


    But your projection of your angre and rage are obvious. It is a classic signe of sexual repression typically brought on by religous brainwashing.


    Religion is no excuse for bogitry and hate.

    ruth

    tide
  • CUDDLY ... Muskoka 2012/08/08 04:34:39
  • Muskoka CUDDLY ... 2012/08/15 21:28:32
  • Muskoka CUDDLY ... 2012/08/15 21:26:07
    Muskoka
    Not angry at all. I just continually try to educate the morons of the planet. Go back to your hovel and growl at someone else.
  • CUDDLY ... Muskoka 2012/08/16 03:59:02
    CUDDLY BUT STILL CRABBY
    There is a special place in hell for ............
  • Muskoka CUDDLY ... 2012/08/16 04:03:53
    Muskoka
    People like you and all the christian haters who think that your brand of belief is acceptable to anyone.


    sin
  • CUDDLY ... Muskoka 2012/08/17 04:55:56
    CUDDLY BUT STILL CRABBY
    And we'll ALL individually find out one day won't we?
  • Muskoka CUDDLY ... 2012/08/18 00:02:53
    Muskoka
    I have already found out.
  • JenSemPa 2012/08/07 13:29:40
    I think
    JenSemPa
    +3
    As soon as I hit the words "Saint Barnabas," I stopped reading.

    It's presumably a Catholic institution. As such, it has every right to forbid behavior that blatantly contradicts Catholic teaching.

    Or does freedom of religion not register as a concept with the new "gay rights police"?

    If you're in a Catholic church, a Catholic hospital, a Catholic soup kitchen, a Catholic whatever, you play by Catholic rules.

    If you don't like it, go somewhere else.

    And no more baloney about the health center "discriminating" against gay people. It took the man in as a patient after his suicide attempt, probably knowing full well that the guy was gay. If it was a "discriminatory" hospital, it never would have taken him in to begin with.
  • JenSemPa JenSemPa 2012/08/07 13:42:26
    JenSemPa
    +1
    ... and all of this is assuming that this story is even true, of course.

    These pro-gay propaganda sites have cooked up bogus stories before. For instance, Gov. Sanford of So. Carolina, and his wife supposedly blaming "gay marriage" for his adultery.

    Until and unless this story appears on a credible news source, I'm going to assume that it's probably just made up.
  • Muskoka JenSemPa 2012/08/08 04:33:09 (edited)
    Muskoka
    You have been brainwashed. Talking to yourself is a sign of insanity.

    tide
  • Muskoka JenSemPa 2012/08/08 03:31:09
    Muskoka
    Where in any catholic doctrine does it say you cannot kiss anyone good bye?
  • Muskoka JenSemPa 2012/08/20 00:26:34
    Muskoka
    HEAVEN FORBID YOU MIGHT ACTUALLY LEARN THE TRUTH.

    SAND
  • wtw 2012/08/07 13:26:32
    No
    wtw
    +2
    I am disgusted by the thought of gay men kissing but he had the right to be there!
  • JenSemPa wtw 2012/08/07 13:31:03
    JenSemPa
    +2
    His "right to be there" is not the issue. The issue is that this is a Catholic institution that has every right, under the First Amendment's freedom of religion clause, to bar behavior that runs counter to Catholic teaching. That would include intimate contact by a same-sex couple.
  • Huki68 JenSemPa 2012/08/07 13:43:19 (edited)
    Huki68
    +3
    First Amendment's freedom of religion clause ??? With all my respect...MY A$$$$

    Yeah I forgot that we are in the Land of the Free... Ouch!!!

    Don't get me start it on this BS.

    Hate creates hate
  • wtw JenSemPa 2012/08/08 02:25:08
    wtw
    +1
    I am against the gay lifestyle but I don't see how you can ban a simple kiss while visitng someone there to visit.
  • Of Thee I Sing... 2012/08/07 13:19:39
    I think
    Of Thee I Sing...
    This whole story is just that......a story......contrived left wing crap to muster sympathy for Homos in the wake of the Chick-fil-A saga because the homos tried to turn it into an "Anti-Gay" issue when it was clearly a "Freedom of Speech" issue.....I'm surprised the author did'nt include the ole "and then she kicked a puppy" bit in this tripe.
  • JenSemPa Of Thee... 2012/08/07 13:33:27
    JenSemPa
    +2
    I wouldn't doubt it. It's a pro-gay propaganda site.

    A couple years ago, one such pro-gay site quoted the wife of the former governor of South Carolina (his name was Sanford) blaming "gay marriage" for his adultery.

    It turned out to be ocmpletely bogus. The wife never said any such thing.

    Oh, but that didn't stop the "gay marriage" crowd from spreading it all over the Net like wildfire.
  • Muskoka JenSemPa 2012/08/08 03:39:22
    Muskoka
    Please.....it has not stopped the religious taliban from there hate agenda as usual.
  • Artist 2012/08/07 13:06:30
    No
    Artist
    +2
    I would have to wonder why he attempted suicide in the first place...Paul might be an enabler. Besides unless they were legally married in a state that recognized gay marriage then the hospital has every right to select the visitors list.
  • Silversnake 2012/08/02 22:07:05
    I think
    Silversnake
    +2
    I hate it when hospitals like this give mine a bad name. It was totally wrong of them
  • die Küss der Tod 2012/08/02 18:40:56
    Yes
    die Küss der Tod
    +4
    That was horrible. There was nothing inappropriate about a man kissing his boyfriend goodnight after his boyfriend's grandparents had already done the same. What's so 'inappropriate' about that? I am appalled. That kind of behavior at a hospital is reprehensible and despicable. They are there to treat patients, not to judge them or their families for any reason.
  • JenSemPa die Küs... 2012/08/07 13:34:32
    JenSemPa
    +1
    In a Catholic hospital -- the place's name is Saint Barnabas -- sorry, but that behavior is very inappropriate.

    First Amendment. Freedom of religion. Despite what the "gay rights police" tell us, it's still a fundamental constitutional right.
  • die Küs... JenSemPa 2012/08/07 15:08:34
    die Küss der Tod
    +3
    Why is being gay inappropriate in a Catholic hospital? They're supposed to treat their patients, not judge or impose their opinions/biases on them. The boyfriend didn't do anything that his grandparents didn't do. It was a kiss, not a make-out session. And I go to a Catholic university (I'm not a Catholic) and there are plenty of gays there and nobody tells them that being gay is inappropriate there. Yes, everyone has the freedom of religion but they don't have the right to enforce their biases/judgements on other people. Just because you have the freedom to your own religion doesn't mean that other people don't have the same right--if you both have the right, you can't infringe upon their rights, either.
  • JenSemPa die Küs... 2012/08/07 15:20:48
    JenSemPa
    +1
    >>>Why is being gay inappropriate in a Catholic hospital?>>>

    BEING gay is okay.

    Gay BEHAVIOR is not.

    In any case, there's not one word of this story in any of the mainstream media. Sounds like another lie by another pro-gay propaganda blog.
  • die Küs... JenSemPa 2012/08/07 19:12:39
    die Küss der Tod
    Gay behavior and being gay are the same thing. If you are gay, you have gay behaviors. Why is a man kissing his boyfriend inappropriate when a straight man kissing his wife is not? There's no difference between being gay and how gays act. They act like themselves. They shouldn't have to be ashamed.

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