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Fundamentalist Christians ‘Beat’ daughter to death in the name of God

☥☽✪☾DAW ☽✪☾ 2012/05/26 01:40:07
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a fundamentalist Christian couple who killed their 7-year-old adopted daughter while practicing a violent form of discipline.

They reportedly beat their nine children regularly because they thought God wanted them to.

A California couple is behind bars after pleading guilty to torturing and murdering their seven-year-old adopted daughter.

According to CNN, Kevin and Elizabeth Schatz of Paradise, California beat seven-year-old Lydia Schatz to death because they believe “God” wanted them to. The couple beat Lydia for seven consecutive hours, with breaks for prayer, on the day she died. When police arrived at the Schatz residence, Lydia was still alive. An officer administered CPR, but it was too late.

The marathon torture session was allegedly sparked by the mispronunciation of a word during the Liberian-born child’s homeschool lesson.

“We have heard the phrase ‘death by a thousand lashes,” Butte County District Attorney Mike Ramsey told CNN. “That’s basically what this was.”

Lydia was beaten with, among other things, a 15″ plumbing supply tube, called a “biblical rod” by the Schatzes.

The Schatzes didn’t only beat little Lydia; all nine of their children were victims of regular torture. Eleven-year-old Zariah was beaten so severely that she almost died too; all eight surviving children were placed in foster homes when Kevin and Elizabeth were arrested.

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The couple was apparently heavily influenced by a Christian child-rearing book titled To Train Up a Child by Michael and Debi Pearl of Tennessee-based No Greater Joy Ministries.

Ramsey told CNN that there is “no doubt” the book influenced the Schatzes.

CNN interviewed the book’s authors at their Tennessee home. “If you spare the rod, you hate your child,” Michael Pearl explained, “but if you love him, you chasten him timely.” “God would not have commanded parents to use the rod if it were not good for the child,” the book states.

Kevin Schatz, who pleaded guilty to torture and murder, will face at least 22 years behind bars. His wife will be locked up for at least 12. At Kevin’s trial, 11-year-old Zariah courageously faced her tormenter and asked him: “Why did you adopt her (Lydia)? To kill her?
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  • Disko Pickle 2012/05/26 01:54:39
    they beat her to death with 1/4 plastic tubing (tubing was recommended by a T...
    Disko Pickle
    +23
    The police had no right to arrest this couple. It's a violation of their religious liberties. This story is more evidence of the anti-Christian bigotry in America.

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  • P. Sturm 2012/07/04 03:40:55
    they beat her to death with 1/4 plastic tubing (tubing was recommended by a T...
    P. Sturm
    7-years-old and beaten for seven consecutive hours for mispronouncing a word?
    Your God does not require child sacrifices you ignorant pricks!!
    Rex tremendae majestatis!!

    The Perls? Ignorant ... and proud of it!!! You "suffered the little children" didn't you? When you die and face Lord Enma in Jigoku, know that he has a special hell reserved for those who torture children. Whatever the child felt, you will feel a thousandfold for 10,000 years. And after, that don't even think you've been forgiven. Your kami, or soul if you like, will be reduced to dust and scattered across all of eternity's realities. It will be like you never existed.

    Poor Lydia. Rest in the peace you short life didn't know. Requiem aeternam.
  • Me 2012/06/23 02:38:50
    And thats why everybody else in the world knows that bible is fiction. Not fact
    Me
    wow...thats so sad
  • KarenInKenoshaWisconsin 2012/06/23 01:08:43
    *Facepalm*
    KarenInKenoshaWisconsin
    Domestic abuse crosses all social, religious, economic and other boundaries. It's not just a Muslim, Pagan, or Christian problem (someone else’s!).
  • ColourfulxRain 2012/06/22 22:51:01
    "Honor Killing" ???? There is no honor in killing, no matter what the faith (...
    ColourfulxRain
    Stories like this is why I believe some people shouldn't even go to jail...They should be taken out back and..well...just have it over and done with.
  • Fran-Halen 2012/06/22 22:28:57
    *Facepalm*
    Fran-Halen
    ...because the bibble tells me so.......
  • eyeballz 2012/06/22 21:57:01
    *Facepalm*
    eyeballz
    I would think religion is an easy excuse to cover up the fact that they were abusive people to begin with and if the truth were known religion probably was not involved at all .
  • Night 2012/06/22 21:54:34
    And fundies are screaming about gay couples adopting. Next time you hear one ...
    Night
    All of the above?
  • Odinsown 2012/06/22 21:44:09
    *Facepalm*
    Odinsown
    +1
    This is why it is healthy to call myth, myth, if they had submitted that their bible is legends and myths, just like most pagans admit about the stories of our gods, that little girls would be alive.
  • pdarkow 2012/06/22 21:36:34
    "Honor Killing" ???? There is no honor in killing, no matter what the faith (...
    pdarkow
    +1
    These people have a lot of nerve to dare use god as an excuse to beat a child to death. There is a big difference between spanking a child and beating a child. Spanking a child for disciplinary actions would redden the child's bottom but would not leave bruises welts or any other damage. A beating will leave bruises welts and could possibly lead to death of the individual. There is nothing any child will ever do that would warrant a beating period. The bible does say "spare the rod spoil the child" However, the meaning behind that is to discipline the child and teach them right from wrong but not abuse them. Whoever allowed these crazy people to adopt a child is beyond belief that they couldn't see what was going on with the other 8 children and allowed it to happen. I hope whoever allowed the adoption to take place has trouble sleeping at night because of it. There should be a special place in Hell for people who mistreat, abuse, and kill a child. I hope they roast in hell. They should be glad that I am not in prison if I was true justice would be served to these people for there immoral unforgivable act.
  • Jippy Jamie Joe (Jamie) 2012/06/22 21:34:55
    These people who beat their child to death believed they were following the w...
    Jippy Jamie Joe (Jamie)
    +1
    They were not following what the Bible say! They were being manipulated by the Devil. They thought what they were doing was right! No, they knew what they was doing! God didn't say anything about beating your kid to death!! What's wrong with people these days? They act like they don't have any sense! They know what they were doing! Yes, children need to be discipline BUT they should not be beating to death!! (or even close to death). I don't care what people say nowadays. Kids need to be getting a whooping. (That doesn't mean for you to kill your child!). It means kids need need to get a spankin and discipline. Kids nowadays are getting too bad and disrespectful!...The truth is those parents were manipulated by the Devil!
  • Amy.[: 2012/06/22 21:04:04
  • Heisenberg 2012/06/22 21:03:06
    And fundies are screaming about gay couples adopting. Next time you hear one ...
    Heisenberg
    +1
    To be honest, I didn't know which answer to pick because they were all applicable. This is appalling and disgusting.
  • Brosia 2012/06/22 19:04:10
    And fundies are screaming about gay couples adopting. Next time you hear one ...
    Brosia
    +2
    This is why I don't care for most forms of Christianity. People like this make me crazy. I am so sorry for their children.
  • starlight 2012/06/09 17:29:50
    "Honor Killing" ???? There is no honor in killing, no matter what the faith (...
    starlight
    i think a little pat on the butt wouldve been fine this is just crazy
  • BloodlessVeins 2012/06/09 16:58:16
    *Facepalm*
    BloodlessVeins
    +3
    We seriously need to leave children to be children, leave YOUR religious belief out of their mind until they are old enough to think for themselves.
  • Night Bloodle... 2012/06/22 21:55:37
    Night
    +2
    But then it's to late because they can think for themselves and might not choose the religion.
  • Iefan M... Bloodle... 2013/04/13 10:42:12
    Iefan Muineachán
    +1
    Upvote because of awesome rationality and adorable anime kitty avatar.
  • Sean Mathews 2012/06/03 02:30:47 (edited)
    *Facepalm*
    Sean Mathews
    +2
    Wow...just wow.

    This is the cost of believing comfortable delusions.
  • Loop 2012/06/02 08:54:37 (edited)
    *Facepalm*
    Loop
    +1
    1. Idiots who beat their children to death and use the bible as an excuse are not christians! It says in the bible clearly you shall not murder! And they should be punished very severely.

    2. Is it really religion that makes people do this? No, its religion that's used as an excuse to justify people's evil actions! Come on, no one would suggest that if they did it in the name of atheism, atheism would be to blame!
  • ☥☽✪☾DAW... Loop 2012/06/02 13:19:12
    ☥☽✪☾DAW ☽✪☾
    Actually it says Thou shall not murder Another Hebrew

    the Old Testament Ten commandments were Written FOR the Hebrews
    not Christians

    The Original Ten Commandments as They were Originally Written
    1. you are to admit no foreign gods into where I gaze.. (there had to be other gods)
    2. You are not to make yourself carved representations of any shape found in the skies above or in the land below or in the water on which the land floats, and Kowtow in homage before them and honour them. (No craven images)
    3. you are not to swear in Yahweh your Gods' name that which is false.
    4. You are to slave for 6 days completing all of yur chores, But the seventh day is Yahweh your gods' seventh, your're not to do any chores..
    5. Worship your father and your mother so that you will live a long time and prosper...
    6. You are not to Retsakh (Kill a Fellow jew.) (No mention of anyone else)
    7. You are not to Naf,,(ejaculate sperm in the wife of a fellow jew)
    8. You awre not to Goniv (rob a fellow Jew)
    9,, You are not to give testimony against your fellow jew...
    10..You are not to lust after your fellow jews wife, nor after his dwelling, his farmland, his slave, his slavegirl, his ox or his ass, or anything your fellow jew owns...(anybody else was OK)
  • Loop ☥☽✪☾DAW... 2012/06/02 20:30:43
    Loop
    +1
    Jesus changed that. He said that anyone who even thinks about murdering someone has committed sin. But thanks for pointing that out.
  • Iefan M... Loop 2013/04/13 11:02:29
    Iefan Muineachán
    Religion was invented specifically for this purpose; as a self-perpetuating form of class control. Judaism, in particular, was used by one rich family of Bronze Age Jews (of Egyptian origin) to enslave the other Jews. It created a bizarre class hierarchy that was unusual for its time: Kohenim > other Jews > slaves, along with a healthy dose of racism, which was actually even worse than the other class hierarchies of the time, which typically were only masters > slaves.
    By no means am I suggesting that the majority of modern-day Jews are classists and racists; in fact, Jews were at the forefront of the Civil Rights Movement, and there are a great deal of Jewish socialists, who are inherently anti-classist, such as Bernie Sanders, my favourite Senator of all (well, except for his positions on gun control).

    Same with Hinduism, that religion everybody thinks is so peaceful. Rich white people > poor white people > indigenous Dravidian peoples. Sad to say, but that's the truth.
  • Loop Iefan M... 2013/04/15 12:00:09
    Loop
    Rich white people? In Hinduism? In the least racist way possible, it was embraced amongst 'brown' people. And if it was just one rich family of Bronze Age Jews, surely we'd know who they were, and it would be exposed blatently?
  • Iefan M... Loop 2013/04/15 12:21:10
    Iefan Muineachán
    The reason the North Indians today are brown-skinned is because they used to rape the Dravidians, as they considered them subhuman.
    The Kohenim. The last name Cohen derives from that word. I don't have any hard feelings against their descendants, though.
  • scbluesman13 2012/06/01 19:01:07
    And fundies are screaming about gay couples adopting. Next time you hear one ...
    scbluesman13
    +1
    Beating and torturing innocent & beautiful children is one of the most vile and evil acts anyone can do. People who preach this type of violence and hatred towards their family are not fit to live amongst the rest of us in civilized societies.
  • NarcolepticGoat 2012/06/01 15:51:23
    And fundies are screaming about gay couples adopting. Next time you hear one ...
    NarcolepticGoat
    +2
    No excuse for this kind of ...

    I have no words.
  • JayLynx 2012/05/31 06:48:58
    These people who beat their child to death believed they were following the w...
    JayLynx
    JC preached the love. People who spank kids ARE NOT Christians, no matter if they think they are.
  • ☥☽✪☾DAW... JayLynx 2012/05/31 12:35:28
    ☥☽✪☾DAW ☽✪☾
    Jesus is criticized by the Pharisees for not washing his hands before eating. He defends himself by attacking them for not killing disobedient children according to the commandment: “He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death.” Matthew 15:4-7

    Abandon your wife and children for Jesus and he’ll give your a big reward. Jesus asks that his followers abandon their children to follow him. To leave your child is abuse, it’s called neglect, pure and simple. Matthew 19:29

    Jesus criticizes the Jews for not killing their disobedient children according to Old Testament law. Mark 7:9

    Families will be torn apart because of Jesus. “Brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death." Matthew 10:21

    Jesus strongly approves of the law and the prophets. He hasn’t the slightest objection to the cruelties of the Old Testament. Matthew 5:17
  • JayLynx ☥☽✪☾DAW... 2012/05/31 21:21:13
    JayLynx
    Mark 7, verse 21 (King James Bible):
    For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders ...
  • ☥☽✪☾DAW... JayLynx 2012/06/01 14:04:34 (edited)
    ☥☽✪☾DAW ☽✪☾
    What the Bible says

    God is the author of evil.
    I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things. Isaiah 31:1-2

    And he is proud of the evil that he creates.
    Behold, I will bring evil upon the house of Jeroboam, and will cut off from Jeroboam him that pisseth against the wall. 1 Kings 14:10

    Behold, this evil is of the LORD. 2 Kings 6:33

    Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, Behold, I am bringing such evil upon Jerusalem and Judah, that whosoever heareth of it, both his ears shall tingle. 2 Kings 21:12

    Thus saith the LORD, Behold, I will bring evil upon this place, and upon the inhabitants thereof, even all the curses that are written in the book. 2 Chronicles 34:24

    All the evil that the LORD had brought upon him Job 42:11

    he Lord ... will bring evil. Isaiah 31:1-2

    I will bring evil from the north, and a great destruction. Jeremiah 4:6

    I will bring evil upon this people, even the fruit of their thoughts. Jeremiah 6:19

    I will bring evil upon them, which they shall not be able to escape; and though they shall cry unto me, I will not hearken unto them. Jeremiah 11:11
  • JayLynx ☥☽✪☾DAW... 2012/06/04 04:31:15
    JayLynx
    For who and why God said it?
    I will not spend my time - you seem to know, or at least, have read the Bible, go there bring the answers, I'm happy with my faith, it's not a problem to me. I love my neighbors, as JC taught, it's all.
  • JayLynx JayLynx 2012/06/04 04:36:31
    JayLynx
    If you was a Christian, you know that Jesus came to obey the law, but does not appear that he has killed someone or encouraging someone to kill. He left the greatest commandment: to love the Father above all things and the Neighbor as thyself.
  • classic JayLynx 2012/06/22 21:37:38
    classic
    According to the fairy tale Jesus said "I come not to abolish the law, but to Fulfill it..""

    Mathew 5:17“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them
  • ☥☽✪☾DAW... JayLynx 2012/06/04 14:34:02
    ☥☽✪☾DAW ☽✪☾
    Its Fine if you want to worship your Savior
    but your Savior is not my Savior
    keep your religion to your church and your home
    and I keep mine to my temple and my home

    Dont force your beliefs on me or others and We all live in p eace
  • JayLynx ☥☽✪☾DAW... 2012/06/08 20:08:09
    JayLynx
    It is just that what I have said to YOU!
    Did you get it, now?
  • JayLynx ☥☽✪☾DAW... 2012/06/08 20:18:14
    JayLynx
    If you do some questions; and people answered to, why do you keep discussing?
    It's kind of disrespect to the interlocutor. If you want answers that you can accept, don't ask to the public, ask to your mirror.
    Open your mind, guy!
  • ☥☽✪☾DAW... JayLynx 2012/06/08 20:20:22
  • JayLynx ☥☽✪☾DAW... 2012/06/08 20:31:33
    JayLynx
    Open your mind, go your own way, in peace. So simple...

    Again:
    If you you're not mature enough to accept the answer, do not ask.

    in portuguese we said: Fui, já deu!
  • ☥☽✪☾DAW... JayLynx 2012/06/08 20:33:48
    ☥☽✪☾DAW ☽✪☾
    i do have an open mind
    your the one with a closed one
  • ☥☽✪☾DAW... JayLynx 2012/06/01 14:08:34 (edited)
    ☥☽✪☾DAW ☽✪☾
    "God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned." -- 2 Thessalonians 2:11-12

    1 Samuel 15:3 God commands the death of helpless "suckling" infants. This literally means that the children god killed were still nursing.

    Psalms 135:8 & 136:10 Here god is praised for slaughtering little babies.

    Psalms 137:9 Here god commands that infants should be “dashed upon the rocks”.

    Isaiah 13:15-18 If God can find you, he will “thrust you through,” smash your children “to pieces” before your eyes, and rape your wife.

    Jeremiah 11:22-23 God will kill the young men in war and starve their children to death.

    Jeremiah 19:7-9 God will make parents eat their own children, and friends eat each other.
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