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Forbes Says IQ Is Overrated - Agree or Disagree?

Foxhound BN0 2012/05/10 15:51:14
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  • Anonymouse BN-0 ~bibbityboo~ 2012/05/10 18:19:45
    IQ is overrateded.
    Anonymouse BN-0 ~bibbityboo~
    +6
    You can be intelligent in other ways.
    “Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.” ― Albert Einstein

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  • RogerCoppock 2012/05/26 09:43:54
    IQ is NOT overratated.
    RogerCoppock
    +2
    People who say IQ is overrated have IQs that do not rate.
    This would certainly apply to "Forbes" magazine, which has
    "dumbed down" its content in recent years.

    See Aesop's parable of "The Fox and the Grapes."
  • UrbanHillbilly 2012/05/16 14:01:56
    IQ is overrateded.
    UrbanHillbilly
    +2
    As one that's fairly good at intelligence tests, that and hard work haven't got me that far.
  • This is W³ 2012/05/15 02:26:19
    IQ is overrateded.
    This is W³
    +2
    Spelling is overrated, too.
  • Piper 2012/05/12 18:43:00
    IQ is overrateded.
    Piper
    +2
    In some cases, I would agree. Having a high IQ, certainly doesn't mean that a person will use it in a positive way for others, and society. Serial killers often have above average IQ's........
  • JERSEYDUDE 2012/05/11 19:00:27
    IQ is NOT overratated.
    JERSEYDUDE
    +1
    having an IQ of 250 and creating the technology the world is using is not overrated
  • UrbanHi... JERSEYDUDE 2012/05/16 14:05:50
    UrbanHillbilly
    Being able to solve puzzels that well gives one a meaningful advatage. Down between 120 - 140, not so much.
  • RogerCo... JERSEYDUDE 2012/05/26 09:58:32 (edited)
    RogerCoppock
    +2
    No one has an IQ of 250, 10 standard deviations above the mean,
    PERIOD, END OF STORY. No test exists that measures that high.
  • JERSEYDUDE RogerCo... 2012/05/26 17:04:56 (edited)
    JERSEYDUDE
    William Sidis who entered Harvard at the age of 11 was believed to have IQ between 250 - 300
  • RogerCo... JERSEYDUDE 2012/05/27 01:12:24 (edited)
    RogerCoppock
    No one has an IQ of 250, 10 standard deviations above the mean,
    PERIOD, END OF STORY.

    Sorry to bust your myth. Their thing that gentlemen can disagree on, but this is not one of them. To those of us trained in the mathematics of statistics, you might as well be arguing that 2 plus 2=5.

    0 standard deviations above the mean (the mean) or above occurs roughly 50% of the time (Not exactly 50%, the IQ distribution is not symmetric. The following calculations will assume it is.)
    1 standard deviation above the mean, 115 IQ, or higher occurs about 16% of the time.
    2 standard deviations above the mean, 130 IQ, or higher occurs about 2% of the time.
    3 standard deviations above the mean, 145 IQ, or higher occurs about 0.1% of the time.
    4 standard deviations above the mean, 160 IQ, or higher occurs about 0.003% of the time.
    5 standard deviations above the mean, 175 IQ, or higher occurs about 0.00003% of the time.
    6 standard deviations above the mean, 190 IQ, or higher occurs about 0.00000001% of the time. One in a billion.
    7 standard deviations above the mean, 205 IQ, or higher occurs about 0.0000000001% of the time. One in a trillion.
    1-pnorm(8)
    6.661338e-16
    (My program, The "R" statistics package for Intel Mac, can't calculate above 8 standard deviations!)

    -- There have not been enough living h...

    No one has an IQ of 250, 10 standard deviations above the mean,
    PERIOD, END OF STORY.

    Sorry to bust your myth. Their thing that gentlemen can disagree on, but this is not one of them. To those of us trained in the mathematics of statistics, you might as well be arguing that 2 plus 2=5.

    0 standard deviations above the mean (the mean) or above occurs roughly 50% of the time (Not exactly 50%, the IQ distribution is not symmetric. The following calculations will assume it is.)
    1 standard deviation above the mean, 115 IQ, or higher occurs about 16% of the time.
    2 standard deviations above the mean, 130 IQ, or higher occurs about 2% of the time.
    3 standard deviations above the mean, 145 IQ, or higher occurs about 0.1% of the time.
    4 standard deviations above the mean, 160 IQ, or higher occurs about 0.003% of the time.
    5 standard deviations above the mean, 175 IQ, or higher occurs about 0.00003% of the time.
    6 standard deviations above the mean, 190 IQ, or higher occurs about 0.00000001% of the time. One in a billion.
    7 standard deviations above the mean, 205 IQ, or higher occurs about 0.0000000001% of the time. One in a trillion.
    1-pnorm(8)
    6.661338e-16
    (My program, The "R" statistics package for Intel Mac, can't calculate above 8 standard deviations!)

    -- There have not been enough living human humans to standardize the IQ test that can significantly produce an IQ score of 250.
    -- Humans do nol live long enough to take the IQ test.
    -- There has not been enough trees to make the paper to print the IQ test,
    (more)
  • scbluesman13 2012/05/11 18:53:07
    IQ is NOT overratated.
    scbluesman13
    +3
    IQ is kind of like a foundation. On its own it doesn't mean a whole lot, but does provide the capacity for those who are really motivated, inquisitive, or daring to reap a lot more creative accomplishment than those with lower IQs.
  • Jean 2012/05/11 14:17:18
    IQ is overrateded.
    Jean
    +2
    The correlation between IQ and financial ability has been - and still is being - studied by Dr. Thomas Stanley, author of the book The Millionaire Next Door. The most successful business people often have lower IQs than their employees, but they do have several personality attributes that elevated them above the rest. They see opportunity where others see a crisis, they are willing to work longer and fail more (they actually learned to fail gracefully in school, where they were more than likely B and C students and never got any recognition), they learn to work around their limitations and they learn to focus on their strong points rather than gripe about their weaknesses. They have more insight and common sense than the so-called "intellectuals", so they are more capable of getting from point A to point B without benefit of a road map than the "smart" people.
  • Bastion 2012/05/11 13:31:11
    IQ is NOT overratated.
    Bastion
    +2
    Just like Santorum and his "What a snob" comment.

    The OWNERS of this country want obedient workers - people just smart enough to run the machines and provide services, but dumb enough not to sit around the kitchen table and talk about how they were thrown overboard thirty years ago by rich f*cks who don't give a sh*t about them. (from George Carlin)

    OF COURSE Forbes says IQ is overrated - IT'S BAD FOR BUSINESS.
  • UrbanHi... Bastion 2012/05/16 14:10:35
    UrbanHillbilly
    +1
    Having an intelligent and well educated population is important for democracy. When people have their noses in the grindstone, intelligence is just a liablity.
  • Stan Kapusta 2012/05/11 02:20:47
    IQ is overrateded.
    Stan Kapusta
    +2
    I have worked with alot of so called high I.Q. blessed people. All I see is it what is remembered or repeated that gave them a high score. Not ability or common sense. The ability on a bad day beats their attendance award.
  • VERYwiseguy 2012/05/11 00:50:57 (edited)
    IQ is overrateded.
    VERYwiseguy
    +1
    Took 3 with 3 different results a 30 point window.I know 2 people with 140 IQ's but aren't well rounded.Whereas mine is above avg. but I'm well rounded and can do more things well they ask me for advice more than I ask them.Unless it's math or science. :) Plus there are different IQ tests and intelligence can be measured in many different ways besides.
  • Beat Magnum True Hero 2012/05/10 22:20:14
    IQ is NOT overratated.
    Beat Magnum True Hero
    +1
    That's just something they say to make the dumb kids feel better.
  • Vision of Verve 2012/05/10 22:07:04
  • 001 2012/05/10 22:05:50
    IQ is overrateded.
    001
    +1
    It's a useful tool, but it is overrated. It's not a rule or a perfect way to measure intelligence.
  • Red Branch 2012/05/10 20:50:16
    IQ is NOT overratated.
    Red Branch
    +1
    Who overrates it?

    I believe I saw where a 2 year old kid was inducted into MENSA. I thought it was ridiculous. I would say the kids parents overrated his/her IQ. I have no idea how a child of that age can be tested nor why anyone would want to except for bragging purposes.

    It is a good tool to measure a person's ability when used properly.

    Contrary to conventional wisdom and political correctness, teaching ones culture is essential.
    It has been known from early times that failure to teach your culture to the next generation quickly leads to the demise of your civilization.
    The main aspect of your culture is your language.
  • kcandi 2012/05/10 20:07:49
    IQ is overrateded.
    kcandi
    +3
    IQ just tests your ability to learn and retain. It doesn't test your ability to put anything into practice or have common sense.
  • kitkat42 2012/05/10 19:25:39
    IQ is overrateded.
    kitkat42
    +1
    You can have a high IQ and still be dumb as dirt about real life. JMHO
  • stevmackey 2012/05/10 19:19:48
    IQ is NOT overratated.
    stevmackey
    +1
    I think it is a monumental overstatement.
  • Philo-OOO For 3 weeks! 2012/05/10 18:32:17
    IQ is overrateded.
    Philo-OOO For 3 weeks!
    +1
    As measured in most tests, yes.
  • say what? 2012/05/10 18:22:01
    IQ is overrateded.
    say what?
    +3
    My IQ is high but I have never succeeded at anything in my life.
  • VERYwis... say what? 2012/05/11 00:54:04
    VERYwiseguy
    +3
    LUCK I feel your pain also. ;)
  • Anonymouse BN-0 ~bibbityboo~ 2012/05/10 18:19:45
    IQ is overrateded.
    Anonymouse BN-0 ~bibbityboo~
    +6
    You can be intelligent in other ways.
    “Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.” ― Albert Einstein
  • Binker 2012/05/10 18:14:28
    IQ is overrateded.
    Binker
    +1
    I read the comments and everyone has valid points. This does not make me a sheep, I make my item decisions on a daily basis and for someone to be smart they also have to be stupid.....I'd that makes any sense :)
  • Footage 2012/05/10 17:55:33
    IQ is overrateded.
    Footage
    +3
    IQ may be good, but too high an IQ can actually be an encumbrance in many situations. Also, many very successful people have had average, or even below average intelligence quotients.
  • UrbanHi... Footage 2012/05/16 14:42:31
    UrbanHillbilly
    +1
    Eisenhower had been surprised to learn that half of the country had a "below average IQ."
  • just me UrbanHi... 2012/05/25 02:29:09
    just me
    +1
    lol and still true.
  • rand 2012/05/10 17:49:11 (edited)
    IQ is NOT overratated.
    rand
    +3
    There are specific examples where it clearly is overrated. Ted Bundy is a good example. But in general the intelligence underlying its measures is critical to our prosperity and progress. That said, it should NOT be used to exclude persons who can show the necessary understanding to proceed with a job or education. Al Einstein once failed a high school entrance exam but was given a second chance. Thank goodness.
  • Jana ♥ ♥ ♥ 2012/05/10 17:39:44
    IQ is overrateded.
    Jana ♥ ♥ ♥
    +2
    I dont think the IQ test is very fair as far as I am concerned.You can get a really smart person that does well with, lets say math but when it comes to common sense they have none.So does that make them really such a smart person,? I say no In order to really be smart as in great IQ then you would have to be smart in everything and as far as I am concerned there are very few..Most people are really smart in only a few things but that does not make them stupid or make them have a really great IQ it makes them human lol
  • AM 2012/05/10 17:25:40
    IQ is NOT overratated.
    AM
    +1
    Seeing as it is the standard of your ability to learn,to understand concepts easily and make use of critical thinking skills I can't fathom it being overrated.I was shocked to learn of the average IQ among Americans is as low as it is.Perhaps I shouldn't be I've asked more than one person here "How they stumble through the day"
  • Foxhound BN0 2012/05/10 17:13:39
    IQ is overrateded.
    Foxhound BN0
    +3
    It's good to be well rounded.
  • flyingseaturtle BN 2012/05/10 17:11:48
    IQ is overrateded.
    flyingseaturtle BN
    +4
    There are more important things than IQ like attitude and aptitude.
  • L1 2012/05/10 17:00:45
    IQ is overrateded.
    L1
    +4
    Agree because IQ is not necessarily indicator of actual success, only potential IF they use that intelligence productively.
  • Red Branch L1 2012/05/10 20:44:41
    Red Branch
    Very complete answer. Clear and Concise.
  • socokid 2012/05/10 16:58:22
    IQ is overrateded.
    socokid
    +3
    When attempting to measure success in the business field, as this article explained, certainly. They clearly make this distinction in the article as well.

    This would be extraordinarily different if the field of success being measured was say, scientific research, software development, etc...

    Meh. ;-) It's just one more tool that is only as good as the test itself and it's context. IMO.
  • Foxhoun... socokid 2012/05/10 17:09:58
    Foxhound BN0
    +2
    Yes. Defining Success makes all the difference. lol
  • Philo-Publius 2012/05/10 16:42:18
    IQ is overrateded.
    Philo-Publius
    +5
    I am of the opinion (probably because I possess a low IQ) that having too high an IQ may actually make a person *less* smart. Beyond a certain point of intelligence, I think, the human mind can begin, if so desired for other reasons, to see patterns and relationships that aren't really there, and thus to confirm one's preconceived notions rather than assist in arriving at greater truth. Such can be quite detrimental when it comes to matters that demand objectivity.
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