Eating Meat May Cause Cancer: Believable or Bogus?

Actually a deficiency in cruciferous foods, lack of enzymes/fruits etc along with ample fiber intake approx 30 grams a day can..There are no recorded case of Vegetarians living longer..however a low calorie diet has proven to prolong life.

I forgot to add Meats with pesticides and hormones very very very bad for all Americans/people..They Not only increase Estrogen in men but causes many problems including early puberty hormone imbalance..etc

I agree that you can be exposed to some estrogenic substances by eating factory-farmed meat and pesticide-sprayed crops, but not exercising, eating tons of sugar, fasting, not getting monounsaturated fat, consuming soy and some other foods, or being overweight will be much more detrimental to your androgen/estrogen ratio. I've read that the average woman in China was only exposed to about 35% of the estrogens that the average UK woman was exposed to (but you can substitute any western nation). Overexposure to foreign estrogenic substances is also pertinent to women because of breast cancer. The estrogenic load is so great these days that even some men experience proliferation of breast tissue and even breast cancer, which is rather alarming. Last time I checked, men weren't supposed to have tits. Considering most estrogens are enzymatically synthesized from androgens in adipose tissue, being overweight will change your hormonal balance for the worse.

There are no recorded cases of vegetarians living longer? You mustn't be looking very hard.

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From the Huff article:

"[...] the remainder [of the participants were] described as "moderate" vegetarians who occasionally ate fish or meat. The health of these study participants was compared with the average German population. Living longer seems not to be exclusively related to eating meat, though, as the results for moderate vegetarians was not statistically different from those for vegan or strict vegetarian diets."

There you have it. The really important thing is that you eat and enjoy a fresh, diversified diet with an abundance of whole foods rich in macro/micro/phytonutrients, a balanced ratio of macronutrients and fatty acid types, low sugar, etc. Eating a vegetarian diet does not necessarily equate with better health. A lot of vegan and vegetarian foods are bad for your health.

I put down Bogus which means the idiots who say everything you eat, smell, or get second hand will cause cancer. I also think cancer is in your genes and if it's ment to evolve it will. I've known people who have smoked for 40-50-or 60 years, but never had cancer. Yet I've also know members of my family who never smoked but have gotten cancer. which takes me back to my second sentence. I don't think it's the meat, but what the cattle are feed and the food coloring which could be the problem......Other than that we are going to die someday, car, plain, train, fall off a ladder, heart attack, stroke, or drown in bath tub, or swimming.Or Just because....

There is a lot of context and studies that have to be explained with this of course.

I don't believe it is the meat itself but the stuff they put in the meat to give it that unnatural red color.It could also be the genetically modified foods they give to the animals,which in turn may cause unintended consequences for the meat.

If you listen to the Gestapo Food Police you can't eat anything. Those crackpots think every things makes you fat and causes cancer.

That explains why so many predatory species are endangered or have gone extinct; they all eat meat. I suggest we combat this by sending delegates from PETA into the wild to explain to predators why they should go vegan. The sooner we do this, the more lives we can save.

I haven't eaten red meat in decades. I do enjoy fish and chicken now and then. I personally can't see how it can be good for anyone. YUCK! But, I think cancer is somehow in the genes or you are exposed to it through your environment. My husband died of pancreatic cancer and he didn't smoke and ate very little red meat. So who knows why people die of cancer......

Eating (or drinking) too much of ANYTHING can be bad (or deadly).

Have you not heard of people who have DIED from drinking too much WATER? Should we BAN Water?

I say: ALL THINGS IN MODERATION - especially Diet and Exercise!

Moderation?! Next thing I suppose you'll start preaching self discipline and personal responsibility. That's crazy talk!

Eating (or drinking) too much of ANYTHING can be bad (or deadly).

Have you not heard of people who have DIED from drinking too much WATER? Should we BAN Water?

I say: ALL THINGS IN MODERATION - especially Diet and Exercise!

The way the question is phrased, I have to click on believable because eating meat, indeed, may cause cancer. Much like a gazillion other foods. You can eat red meat and not get cancer too. I choose to balance my foods and use supplements for the vitamins I won't be able to get on my everyday diets. Always an ongoing experiment! But I have to admit that since I chose to pursue this route seriously -- as opposed to giving it the usual lip service we fatties tend to do -- I feel better than I have in years. Hmmmm. Have I stumbled on to something? Sure hope so! :) rah

You are what you eat, dead food.

With all the stuff they feed the cattle, loaded with hormones, and chemicals, I'm not surprised. That garbage they feed them is stored in the fat of the animal, and then we consume it.
Another reason why I'm a vegetarian.

Mother's milk causes blindness! 2nd hand farts cause COPD! I mean come on how much more of this paranoia are we gonna have to put up with?

umm...hello?we're OMNIVORES.and that means eats plants AND meat.now,maybe meat cooked in a certain way can cause health problems but...meat it self?never.

I guess anything "could" kill you. They are never definitive about their claims. It's a lot of fear mongering to scare people into having those colonoscopies regularly and keeping the cash flowing to medical professionals. I've heard too many horror stories about routine colonoscopies killing people! I'll take my chances on cancer 10 years down the road, thank you.

It's not the meat, it's the hormones and other chemicals that they give the cows, chickens, etc... that give you cancer.

That's certainly more believable!

exactly

Yes, this is why the article specified “processed” meat.

All meat is processed.

No, not all. At least, not for people who know how to hunt, fish, and/or raise their own.

what percent of the population is that? like the amish...! Most people buy thier meat from the grocery store.

You said “all.” “All” ≠ “well, almost all.” This is not the Pirates of Penzance.

so...then... when the cow is killed...what do they do?....leave it or process it into various cuts of meat. This is a process...how else would you describe it...

first you have a cow...they pump it full of hormones....they kill it...cut it up for meat...the grocery store pumps it full of dyes....you buy it...cook it...eat it...you have just eaten hormones and dyes...this is the PROCESS that causes different things in different people. Cancer in one, obeseness in others...no one knows!

You know good and well what most reasonable people mean by the term “processed meat.” Cattle raised naturally, without hormones, etc., which are then butchered old-fashioned style, etc., do undergo various “processes” but it’s silly in the extreme to conflate that with “processed meat.”

I believe what I said in my last comment is how meat is processed:

first you have a cow...they pump it full of hormones....they kill it...cut it up for meat...the grocery store pumps it full of dyes....you buy it...cook it...eat it...you have just eaten hormones and dyes...this is the PROCESS that causes different things in different people.

You say cattle are raised naturally...you don't know that for sure...DO YOU? There is no law that says that they have to refrain from using horomones...or dies...you get what you get when you buy it from the store. So don't give me that garbage about
"but it’s silly in the extreme to conflate that with “processed meat.”"
becaue you don't and can't know for sure how the cattle are raised or the meat is processed.

Sure you can, if you raise them yourself. But even without that, meat that has been certified organically raised by an independent certifying authority can generally be trusted.

Besides, everything you said about meat also applies to vegetables, fruits, grains, nuts, and legumes, etc. farmed in agribusiness farms. They’re grown in soil laced with petroleum-based fertilizers, sprayed with petroleum-based pesticides and herbicides, processed with preservatives, etc. etc. etc., and these days, are often genetically modified to boot.

You can either do your own subsistence farming, trust “organic” certification, starve, or accept all manner of chemicals and bioengineered DNA (in the case of GMOs) into your body, even if you’re a vegan.

The government (FDA) does not have to tell you whether the mean is brought up given horomones, nor does it have to tell you who raised it, if it is cloned meat, etc... Never seen any authority claim to be the provider of organic meat! Veggies, yes, and I do grow veggies. I think that the growers should have to tell you how they raise cattle, or grow veggies, etc.. we as the public have a right to know what we are consuming, besides, some people may have serious allergies to some of the stuff they use on these items. And I don't trust anything that the government controls. You shoudn't either, they are the biggest liars in these here united states.

Irrelevant to your original claim. To refresh your memory: you asserted, “all meat is processed” (your exact words and the entirety of the post in question). You’re backpedalling your goalpost-moving machine.

No you dumba$$...I am not back pedalling...I still believe all meat is processed...it is just to what degree...you are just being stupid and not seeing the scarcasm as it was meant.

Really? Even self-hunted small game, eaten raw?

you really are an ass! self hunted meat has to be cleaned...and de-gutted etc...processed. and if you are stupid enough to eat it raw I hope you are up to date on your rabies shots.

Well, if you’re going to be that pedantic about it, then chewing and digestion and metabolism also count as “processing.” Heck, the meat being grown onto the bones of the animals by their own eating and digesting and metabolising of whatever they ate also counts as “processing.” The plants “process” sunlight and water and air and soil nutrients into the vegetables, fruits, nuts, and grains that we and other animals eat. Even the water gets metabolized in our cells, and gets “processed” by the water cycle of evaporation and precipitation. So, everything we eat or drink is “processed.” Even what our caveman ancestors ate.

It's not the meat, it's all the junk IN the meat. Animal fat stores toxins from the environment as well as all the hormones and antibiotics we pump into our domesticated meat animals.