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Does This Photo Shoot Glamorize Violence?

SodaHead Living 2012/06/20 21:21:46
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This might be one of the most disturbing, distasteful things we’ve ever seen. A Bulgarian fashion magazine recently featured a photo shoot of models who appear bloodied, bruised, slashed, punched and burnt, with the tagline, “Victim of Beauty.”

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But if the images make you think of domestic violence, the editor-in-chief of 12 Magazine says that’s your own sick mind at work. “This shoot was left without an introductory text, thus allowing everybody to translate it the way they want,” editor-in-chief Huben Hubenov told The New York Daily News. “A lot of people read ‘domestic violence’ in those pictures, but it is their mind who came up with that explanation of the shoot, not ours."

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Hubenov adds: “And if they took the time to actually examine the photographs, instead of superficially jumping to [conclusions], they would’ve seen girls who look at us strongly, who look confident, who are above the wounds, above everything. They are independent.”

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Others strongly disagree. “Violence against women exists way too frequently in real life for us to want to look at it in a fashion magazine,” blogger Cheryl Wischhover wrote on Fashionista, joining a chorus of other outraged bloggers. However, some readers called the shoot beautiful and “thought-provoking.” What do you think? Do these photos glamorize violence?

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  • C. C. R... White R... 2012/06/22 03:50:41
  • C. C. R... C. C. R... 2012/06/22 03:53:33 (edited)
  • C. C. R... C. C. R... 2012/06/22 04:03:16
    C. C. Rider
    Your posts say more about you dear. This says more about YOU AND YOUR predjudices that you are inflicting on me. Seems your scars are not healed at all. Do not take it out on me
  • K Jones C. C. R... 2012/06/28 22:23:50 (edited)
    K Jones
    I have 2 breasts and a vagina, and no penis. I don't agree with beating women, or ANYONE, for that matter, unless they have harmed an innocent person or animal. I never cause harm to anyone in offense, but would indeed kick the ass of anyone who laid a finger on anyone in offense. In other words, I have, and will always defend ANYONE I encounter who is being harmed. I've stood up to men who are up 400#, compared to my 120# frame, with no regard to my safety, in defense of others. You truly are blinded by hate.

    I have indeed had a hell of a lot of violence in my life, since childhood. Thr scars are both internal and external, so you can imagine (since you're good at that) the type of injuries this would entail. It has come from men AND women, when I was too young to defend myself. The publishers deliberately left the interpretation up to the viewer. You clearly have never seen what an animal or accident or any other thing can do to a person. I spent years printing pics for medical and police crime labs, so I do know what I am talking about.

    I could jump to conclusions about this being about domestic violence, but I have seen too much, and there are many ways a person can be harmed or scarred. I refuse to always be quick to assume a man had something to do with it, I look f...

    I have 2 breasts and a vagina, and no penis. I don't agree with beating women, or ANYONE, for that matter, unless they have harmed an innocent person or animal. I never cause harm to anyone in offense, but would indeed kick the ass of anyone who laid a finger on anyone in offense. In other words, I have, and will always defend ANYONE I encounter who is being harmed. I've stood up to men who are up 400#, compared to my 120# frame, with no regard to my safety, in defense of others. You truly are blinded by hate.

    I have indeed had a hell of a lot of violence in my life, since childhood. Thr scars are both internal and external, so you can imagine (since you're good at that) the type of injuries this would entail. It has come from men AND women, when I was too young to defend myself. The publishers deliberately left the interpretation up to the viewer. You clearly have never seen what an animal or accident or any other thing can do to a person. I spent years printing pics for medical and police crime labs, so I do know what I am talking about.

    I could jump to conclusions about this being about domestic violence, but I have seen too much, and there are many ways a person can be harmed or scarred. I refuse to always be quick to assume a man had something to do with it, I look for facts before I judge.

    I still refuse to blame all men (or women) for every mark upon a woman. You can deny it all you want, but I am a woman, just not one who carries hate, myopic vision and a big chip on my shoulder throughout my life. I choose to look for facts, and choose to have only positive people in my life. Be careful. You get what you are looking for. And unlike you, I only wish for you to find peace and be able to see the good in others, and give all people a chance before you demonize them. Your life will be happier. And happier people make a better world.
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  • K Jones K Jones 2012/06/28 22:27:36
    K Jones
    I might add that these "injuries" were applied by makeup artists, which probably was a mix of female and male. So, scars can be made not only by abuse, but also animals, accidents, Mother Nature, AND makeup artists.
  • C. C. R... K Jones 2012/06/29 11:20:03 (edited)
    C. C. Rider
    LOOK, see a shrink and quit taking it out on me about your sorry ass life. I think some one beat you a little too much.

    The pics are disgusting and an insult to any woman. IT will be seen as women being beaten by men and that is all there is to it.

    You of course are wrong in you assesment not only of me but the pics.

    ONCE again the pics are seen as a women beaten by a man. It is art right? Then that is how I and many other people will see it.

    how you are seeing things is not the norm and I ask that you seek help. You hate women and men too on this issue as your posts reflect.
    poor Ric....Now piss off.
  • K Jones K Jones 2012/06/21 22:58:23 (edited)
    K Jones
    +1
    To C.C. Rider: I am, in fact, a woman. I have been through plenty of violence in my life, with plenty of scars to prove it. I can see why u don't accept replies, u have blinders on. I see strong women who hold their head high regardless of their appearance. I see women who have injuries, but it is YOUR assumption that those injuries were put there by men. I see women who, like me, may have had some accidental and some intentional injuries, in which case they will not tolerate repeat offenses, will fight back, and will ultimately come out on top, STILL BEAUTIFIUL, DESPITE their scars. So, ONCE AGAIN, YOUR assumptions say more about YOU than it does about the person you are falsely judging. Besides, the title was Victim Of Beauty, which could be interpreted many ways. It is YOU that assumes violence perpetrated by men. If I WERE a man, the average GOOD man, I would tire of hearing my gender being witch-hunted every time a woman's face bears an injury. This points out how quickly people ASSUME a MAN did this to a poor, defenseless woman. Violent PEOPLE deserve the worst back on them. However, violence can be perpetrated by men, women, children, animals, machines, Mother Nature, etc. Could be intended or an accident (ex: a car accident or a fall). It can even be self-inflicted. ...
    To C.C. Rider: I am, in fact, a woman. I have been through plenty of violence in my life, with plenty of scars to prove it. I can see why u don't accept replies, u have blinders on. I see strong women who hold their head high regardless of their appearance. I see women who have injuries, but it is YOUR assumption that those injuries were put there by men. I see women who, like me, may have had some accidental and some intentional injuries, in which case they will not tolerate repeat offenses, will fight back, and will ultimately come out on top, STILL BEAUTIFIUL, DESPITE their scars. So, ONCE AGAIN, YOUR assumptions say more about YOU than it does about the person you are falsely judging. Besides, the title was Victim Of Beauty, which could be interpreted many ways. It is YOU that assumes violence perpetrated by men. If I WERE a man, the average GOOD man, I would tire of hearing my gender being witch-hunted every time a woman's face bears an injury. This points out how quickly people ASSUME a MAN did this to a poor, defenseless woman. Violent PEOPLE deserve the worst back on them. However, violence can be perpetrated by men, women, children, animals, machines, Mother Nature, etc. Could be intended or an accident (ex: a car accident or a fall). It can even be self-inflicted. Especially in a world of media-influenced interpretations of beauty, a woman's perspective on her own beauty or her feeling of lack thereof can be damaged just as horribly without lifting a finger at all. It is YOU who jumps to the domestic violence assumption, YOU who chooses to blame a man wo knowing the story. That is why they left it to the viewer, to see to what conclusions each viewer would jump. I hold my position. This says more about YOU AND YOUR predjudices. I have no hate for men. I see things clearly.
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  • K Jones K Jones 2012/07/22 03:00:18
    K Jones
    To CC (and any others who are strongly affected bu this social experiment/photo shoot):
    Whatever helps you sleep at night, it's OK with me.  Since you've clearly gifted me with a fair bit of your unresolved anger and pain at people who have harmed you in life, I choose to believe you have given me permission to do something about it, or you wouldn't have spent the time to write.  I accept your pain on your behalf, and though I am not Christian, I pass it on to my higher beings on your behalf, and ask that you be sent the situations and people necessary to heal your anger and pain, in a way that is loving and positive in YOUR  eyes, while being easy and effortless for you to accept and allow; that your eyes be blessed to see love and compassion when it stands before you;  your ears be blessed to hear truth and kind words, and a heart open enough to allow these gifts in to heal your broken heart.  I mean it most sincerely.   Of course, with your will, you can reject these gifts and continue to be angry at the world, and at me, or reject them because you dislike the way they come to you. It's your choice. I also see someone who has a great deal of unresolved injustice and pain in their heart. . May you also find justice, or some sense of resolution to these things... May you begi...

    To CC (and any others who are strongly affected bu this social experiment/photo shoot):
    Whatever helps you sleep at night, it's OK with me.  Since you've clearly gifted me with a fair bit of your unresolved anger and pain at people who have harmed you in life, I choose to believe you have given me permission to do something about it, or you wouldn't have spent the time to write.  I accept your pain on your behalf, and though I am not Christian, I pass it on to my higher beings on your behalf, and ask that you be sent the situations and people necessary to heal your anger and pain, in a way that is loving and positive in YOUR  eyes, while being easy and effortless for you to accept and allow; that your eyes be blessed to see love and compassion when it stands before you;  your ears be blessed to hear truth and kind words, and a heart open enough to allow these gifts in to heal your broken heart.  I mean it most sincerely.   Of course, with your will, you can reject these gifts and continue to be angry at the world, and at me, or reject them because you dislike the way they come to you. It's your choice. I also see someone who has a great deal of unresolved injustice and pain in their heart. . May you also find justice, or some sense of resolution to these things... May you begin to see little positive changes here and there that let you know these things are possible. All you have to do is allow it, appreciate it, and show thanks when things come to you, however big or small. 
    If it is your will, may your feet find the path of joy, and your heart allow it to live within you.
    Peace-K
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  • Emily 2012/06/21 16:53:54
    Yes
    Emily
    Yes, they are trying to glamorize violence, which is really not fair to the women that are being beaten. But I read a comment down below about how you can see the hurt in a person's eyes, and after looking at the pictures more carefully, I only noticed impatience and no hurt at all...
  • mrdog 2012/06/21 16:48:26
    No
    mrdog
    this absolutely stupid.... fashion magazine is nuts.... nothing positive for me...

    But Bulgarian bubba is crazy that promoted these pictures...sad very sad...bark
  • shona 2012/06/21 16:33:56
    No
    shona
    I think these images are very disturbing and very disrespectful to women who are actually victims or physical abuse, these images would probably be very hurtful to those victims as they have suffered that abuse and for a magazine to publish these pictures as glamorous is ridiculous!
  • Jon 2012/06/21 16:24:24 (edited)
    No
    Jon
    +2
    As stated disturbing, distasteful and ugly! The problem I have these photographs are not real and it a put on and the two don't match. What missing is the horror and the hurt in the eyes and nobody wants to look at that not even for a second. And if you do your sick person. I have photographed people and the eye can tell a story only the photographer can capture which he/she can convey to their audience. beutful eyes
  • jackolantyrn356 2012/06/21 16:20:08
    Yes
    jackolantyrn356
    Sickens me.
  • Bob 2012/06/21 16:12:42 (edited)
    Yes
    Bob
    I never hit my wife in 23 years: we are separated now. If she got ticked off at me for any reason and decided to say I assaulted her and had a small bruise I'd be in the slammer in a second.
  • Tamara McMillan 2012/06/21 16:07:46
    Yes
    Tamara McMillan
    +1
    I think it Does TRY to glamorize it since the models are all done up flawlessly in make-up. In reality I imagine a woman beaten down physically would not feel up to getting all her make up on and looking dolled up because she would be mentally beaten up as well and feel pretty bad about herself or situation. Basically I do find this sort of photo shoot disturbing and distasteful. If a man beat me like that I would not want to look all nice and made up around or for them . . . and make-up would not be enough to make me feel good about myself so why bother with it?
  • KarenInKenoshaWisconsin 2012/06/21 16:06:45
    Yes
    KarenInKenoshaWisconsin
    +2
    Unfortunately, part of the human condition is that domestic violence is rampant, more rampant than most of us want to admit. At least half of all women are on the receiving end of domestic violence at least once in their lives. Many live it for years, hiding bruises, burns, bite marks and emotional wounds. Men get abused too, though not as frequently and not always in the same ways.

    That being the case, that domestic abuse takes such a prominent place in the fabric of society instead of being the rarer aberration we'd like it to be...to say that the unforeseen-predictable response (that these photo shoots are glamorizing domestic abuse) is "our own sick minds at work" is ludicrous. It's deep denial. It's playing cat and mouse with humanity's darker side. It's a cruel, cold play.

    Boo, hiss.
  • Jackie KarenIn... 2012/06/21 20:17:30
    Jackie
    +2
    I agree I was abused wife physically, emotionaly, and spritually, I had no friends because when I would get close to one of his friends wives they were no longer around. I was not allowed to go to church without him. I know these photos were all makeup, hhow well I remember the pain.
    Men don't report the abuse because they are afraid they won't be seen as manly
  • cheighti g 2012/06/21 15:57:02
    No
    cheighti g
    GAWSH NO
  • Jay 2012/06/21 15:51:24
    Yes
    Jay
    +1
    Disgusting. Degrading to women.
  • President Camacho 2012/06/21 15:48:22
    No
    President Camacho
    That isn't glamorous.
  • Sam DePecan 2012/06/21 15:27:05
    No
    Sam DePecan
    . . . I can't see how that would be; but I guess that about the only thing that comes to mind, here, is; are these transexual people? (Relative to "gendered-whatevers?") . . . There's not really enough of the rest-of-the-body exposed to recognize if they are any of the politically-motivated sex-types, etc.
  • Roxxi 2012/06/21 15:15:29
    No
    Roxxi
    +1
    AM I the only one who thought of the Joker or other Villains or anti heroes when I saw these girls? Yes, they are 'damaged' but they're facial expressions are so "come at Bro" they look badass. They look like they could annihilate those that hit them.

    I don't see victims at all. I see strong women who've run into a rough patch, picked themselves up and are ready to kick butt.

    Maybe I spend too much time thinking about heroes....
  • Ginger 2012/06/21 15:04:00
    No
    Ginger
    What is that question , violence is and will always be an horrible thing which shouldnt be glamorize !!!
  • PotatoHead 2012/06/21 15:00:58
    No
    PotatoHead
    More like scenes from a horror movie
  • phil 2012/06/21 14:44:44
    Yes
    phil
    +1
    A woman hit is no joke. Hot no. Ok to do or see no
  • apachehellfire65 2012/06/21 14:35:04
    No
    apachehellfire65
    only for those who want it too.
  • Nekosarethebest 2012/06/21 14:23:09
    No
    Nekosarethebest
    They all fell... >.>
  • SOUL4REAL 2012/06/21 14:13:37
    Yes
    SOUL4REAL
    +2
    There is nothing beautiful about wearing a "Black Eye"! "Victim of Scary"! The way the people are starting to think in this world is a very "Dark Place In Their Minds"!!
  • ashdragon88 2012/06/21 14:12:08
    No
    ashdragon88
    +3
    I don't believe it was the photographers goal to endorse or "glamorize" violence, its all in the way people interpret it. Artists, photgraphers, and other creatives often think and feel something far different than what other perceive. Given that the ads feature a tagline "Victim of Beauty" and it was in a fashion magazine, I highly doubt they were deliberatly promoting domestic violence.

    However, as someone who has been a victim of domestic violence before, these images are uncomfortable for me and I can see why people would be shocked by them.
  • debhead 2012/06/21 14:05:32
    Yes
    debhead
    +1
    There's no beauty in a black eye!
  • L K 2012/06/21 13:47:08 (edited)
    Yes
    L K
    +1
    I don't care for the photo.....not sure what the message is for....unless it is accompanied with a title like Stop the violence!
  • CサïCサï xχx 2012/06/21 13:46:57
    No
    CサïCサï xχx
    that doesn't look glamorous to me.. is it possible to glamorize violence?

    i don't think they should put this as in a fashion magazine though, that seems pretty messed up..
  • Stephen 2012/06/21 13:36:37
    No
    Stephen
    +1
    There is no way to glamorize violence. I don't care how you present it. Any type of violence outside of sport or selfdefence is against the laws of the human race. ANY type of violence submitted before a court. Should carry a minimum (1) One years sentence. Only stupid and cowardly loosers use violence to prove their point.
  • MorrowJenifer 2012/06/21 13:10:26
  • ✿Britt ❤'s Steven Tyler✿ 2012/06/21 13:08:22
    No
    ✿Britt ❤'s Steven Tyler✿
    its just a photoshoot. its not like heywere really beat up,they have all kind of weird photoshoots and weird fassion lines. this ain't much more odd than some of them.
  • Gothpirate 2012/06/21 12:52:27
    Yes
    Gothpirate
    +1
    I don't care what the director says its not my sick mind its sad reality
  • FELINE GESTURES IN THE DARK 2012/06/21 12:17:21
    Yes
    FELINE GESTURES IN THE DARK
    +1
    Not good .That will go on until all the women fight for their all rights without one single left unaware . They should make it also with male models with the same beaten image then I would believe there was nothing sexist in it .

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