Does Cannabis Smoking 'Permanently Lower IQ'?

Another thing that is funny to observe about pot heads is the way they seemingly believe they have discovered something distinquished and fashionable.
"Eureka", as if they are on to something cool and sophisticated while being part of the drug consumption culture gives them a sense of belonging to something, like a brotherhood of sorts.

"Party Hardy" with their friends...which is understandable enough because it is all meant to be in good fun and lots of laughs.

Most of them act as if they are far more "astute" individuals as compared to the other people who do not smoke pot or consume drugs.
As if they have made an "admirable" decision to smoke pot while they have plenty of pot smoking buddies helping to support them and encourage their participation.
Like they are part of the "kool kids" on the block and they are more enlightened than others.
It is interesting to note how quickly they develope an all knowing "perspective" about pot and everything entailed and most of them have or soon develope an anti establishment attitude...like a "rebel with a cause" and no one will tell them what to do or how to live their life.
They resent other peoples opinions about the negative aspects of marijuana while any suitable, well meaning, advice given to them is ignored.
Pot emboldens their sense of individualism and fortifies their defiance.
Even when it is causing them problems and or they are in confict and contention with their friends or family or society in general they adamantly stand their ground and defiantly smoke their pot...no matter what the consequences as they have found a purpose worthy of their devotion and defense.

Other than that....I know it is all meant to be in good fun while enjoying all the fun seeking adventures that the pot intoxication can deliver for many who do participate.

I do not buy into the drug induced and drug seduced thinking and mentality of the pot heads and the other drug users while they are always trying to "absolve" themselves of any wrong doing or culpability while continually participating in drug consumption and in effect sustaining the nefarious nature of drug consumption and habitual intoxication.

Your right...but none of the pot heads see it that way as they have the laws to blame and other people and other entities are to blame while they absolve themselves of any wrong doing or culpability or complicity.
They want the laws to be changed to suit their drug induced, drug seduced intoxicated agenda while the whole nation and the rest of the citizens are expected to accept their self serving habitually intoxicated lifestyle.
I have lived with and lived around the pot heads and the drunkards and alcoholics and the tobacco addicts.
All too often, what you will witness is a whole lot of stupid behaviour and half witted mentality practised by the drug consumers who ignore any of the detriments and or liabilities associated with habitual intoxication.
Most of them are not bad people by any means but they commonly come with an attitude that what they do is harmless and no one should be telling them what do to and or criticising their drug consuming practices and or thier habitual intoxications as that would be interferring with their intoxicated fun.
They actually believe that any problems or ramifications resultant of drug consumption are not related to their own and "individual" consumption of the drug while over looking the fact that everytime they buy the drug and consume the drug they further sustain all the many illegal, nefarious criminal activities that are interconnected to the supply and consumption of the drug.
They will adamantly argue that it is the laws that have created the present problems and never admit that their consumption of the drug is the core source of the problem.
Meantime they have alcohol and prescription drugs and many other social vices to be employed as examples or comparisons used to validate their personal consumption of their choosen intoxicant.
They do not think it is irrisponsible at all to illegally buy the product and be continually intoxicated or habitually intoxicated because the high and the intoxication supersedes all other values and all other concerns.

As to whether it lowers their IQ, that is hard to determine but they are willing to be self administered lab rats and learn the hard way while they live in denial of all the many "other" possible mental or physical detriments and problems attached to consuming marijuana and habitual intoxication.

Was I speaking personally to you Jenni B.???
What, did you do something wrong that you feel somewhat guilty about ..as if your not excatly doing the right thing and you feel that pot smoking is a very questionable affair to be continuously involved in while your friends and family members are not exactly embracing your drug consumption and the resultant intoxication.....let alone the majority of citizens who do not smoke pot.
Most people sooner or later give it up because they come to the realisation that it has its detriments and side effects while being habitually intoxicated all the time does, often enough, interfer with ones life in a number of negative ways.
And your intoxications do often enough effect the other peoples that you do interact with during your on going intoxications.
There are many valid reason why people do oppose and criticize its supply and consumption or did you think you are being criticized for no reasons at all???
Everything is always wonderfull while being around habitually intoxicated drug users.????

I do not deny anyone consuming marijuana for its medicinal properties and I am well aware that the pharmacuetical industry is far from innocent of any wrong doing while their drugs are, all too often, outright deadly.
I know this...you dont have to tell me in an effort to make excuses for the drugs you personally choose to consume while trying to absolve yourself of any wrong doing or complicity in the nations nefarious drug consumption culture.

I agree Marijuana is better in many aspects than many of the pharmacuetical drugs.
What makes you think I dont know about marijuana and hemp and the cultivation of the plant and a whole lot more???
Just because I criticize the pot heads and the drug consumption culture, so that makes me ignorant about marijuana and recreational drugs and all that the supply and consumption of the drugs entail.
You mean to say, because you are a drug user that automatically makes you more knowledgeable or "enlightened" concerning everything about drugs???

You take the marijuana because it relieves you of your ailment(s) and that is understandable.
I surmise you will tell me you tried "everything" to solve your medical condition..everything???...... before you turned to marijuana as nothing else worked..only the marijuana?
I have a knee that bothers me all the time and sometimes I dont sleep well also and sometimes my eye aches like there is pressure on it...but I dont smoke the intoxicant called marijuana to relieve me of my problems.
But I would consume a Hemp plant "by product" if it was proven well enough that it helps my particular ailment(s) ...without the intoxication or long term "feeling" of dependancy or "possible" addiction.
I take vitamins and minerals and I get back to excercising more and I try to eat better and sleep more and I do not drink coca cola or soft drinks and I dont drink alcohol and I dont smoke cigaretts ( I must really be pissing you off by now) and I drink plenty of water and I do not go to church and I dont believe in god and I dont get stressed out or let stress bother me.
I take the pharmacuetical products sometimes to relieve myself of what ails me "sometimes" but I do not take the substances to get high on and intoxicated on the way that pot heads do with marijuana to get habitually intoxicated on.

Certainly, seperate the medicinal properties and benefits of the hemp plant and use them judiciously....I agree..for the record..I agree.
I do not buy into using the medical aspects of marijuana as validation for the habitually intoxciated people and their drug induced indiscretions while they sustain the presently illegal use of the drug and all the associated nefarious criminal activities for the sole purpose of getting all wasted on and bent out of shape and generally Fxxxxx Up on Marijuana and a variety of other non essential recreational intoxicants .......including alcohol.
Like I said before ..I have been around and lived with the alcoholics and the druggies and the Pot Heads and the tobacco addicts and it is easy enough to laothe the whole lot of them ( or more importantly , those particular drug related aspects of their personalities, characters and mentality) ...and all their self serving excuses that keeps them stuck in a drug induced world of intoxication.

You can argue on behalf of them all you want...but I do not except their practices and or their mentality concerning non essential recreational drug consumption for the sole purpose of intoxication.
The medicinal uses of the drug is not really what this thread was all about anyhow.
What it was about is determining if smoking cannabis permanently lowers the IQ of the users.??
None of us know for certain...but personally I think they have lower IQ in the first place for "continually" consuming marijuana for the sole purpose of intoxication.
That is the way I think of them and I am entitled to my opinion because..."Soda Head says so."

Not sorry to disappoint your pot head "assumptions" as I do not drink or consume any drugs or tobacco...and I am far from puritan or religious.
You carry on with your love of the drug(s) while advocating their use and or defend the use and defend the drug users and drug dealers.
I will carry on pointing out the negative aspects of the drug(s) and drug use and I will carry on advocating that people not use the drugs or alcohol or tobacco.
I can refrain from using the intoxicants...but I know many people can not and I also fully understand the many social reasons and social conditions the lead people to try drugs and then continue to consume them.
I know it is all in good fun and no one means anyone any harm and I know people will do what they want to do anyhow and laws do not stop a percent of the people.
I am not a prohibitionist and I want to see cannabis legalised as I realise well that the laws surrounding cannabis use create a long list of legal problems and social problems that should not exist if the drug was supplied and sold in a regulated legal manner..similar to alcohol and tobacco regulations.

Having said all of that..I still do not advocate using the drug as you will be better off in the long run anyhow and no need to try it and chance being one of the many people whos lives "do" go down hill rather than up hill and being successfull with the use of cannabis as a regular part of their lifestyle.
I know the nation is not going to fall apart from drug use and certainly not cannabis but the whole drug culture has its many negatives that become obvious to the non users while the users make like there are no problems at all with widespread drug use and wide spread intoxication..on top of all the alcohol and prescription drugs and all the many other non essential recreational drugs out there.
Less drugs and less intoxication is what is needed..not more.
But you do what you want and if you do suffer any serious negative effects from your drug use then maybe I will come visit you in the hospital or come to your early funeral.